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Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by StormRider, Jun 18, 2005.
I only saw a few episodes and I kind of liked it. But did they ever make it back home?
NO, and it was because you touch yourself at night
if i remember correctly home was taken over by a weird race, and they where all enslaved....dunno how it turned out..i know the girl died....
GOD? Is that you?
But seriously, I did manage to make it almost thru to the end of the series
(I skipped a lot of episodes along the way); but I won't spoil it too much for
those who might still be trying to get thru it all.
<ambiguous> The Sliders team does eventually find a way back to Quinn's world, but they
have a few changes in cast and perspective along the way.</ambiguous>
But Kari Wuhrer is still a babe.
Well apparently that chick made it back to primetime TV when she joined "Numb3rs" but then she started bitching at the execs and didn't renew her contract. She looked good as a blonde too.
I love Kari Wuhrer. She was super hot.
Yeah but the rest of the new characters sucked.
I was talking about Sabrina Lloyd. Never did watch past the first two seasons. In fact, I had no idea this show was on until 2000!! Wow, just checked IMDB and apparently they did a full season AFTER Jerry O'Connell left the show
In answer to the original question, no, they never did. Here's a brief recap of what happened:
1) After the Sliders slid into a world dominated by a race which evolved from Cro-Magnon man, rather than whatever we evolved from, (the Kro-Maggs) they traced back to our Earth using a tracking bug planted on one of the Sliders and enslaved it.
2) The Professor was killed by that weird guy from The Who, playing an army colonel who needed steady injections of brainstem tissue to keep his head from falling off... or something. Kari Wuhrer took his place, playing the most unrealistic thing in the universe: a sexually ambitious military gal with gigantic gozongas and a thing for geeks.
3) Wade was captured by Kro-Maggs and sent to a breeding colony. (Yeah... that's gross) This all happened off camera, of course, because the actress got in a hissy fit over her contract or something.
3a) Quinn finally makes it back to his homeworld, only to find that the Kro-Maggs have conquered it. (see 1)) Furthermore, he meets his mother in a holding cell for just long enough for her to give him some sort of neural voice mail chip or something. (i.e. the writers couldn't think of a good plot device)
3b) Said neural voice mail informs Quinn that this world isn't his homeworld, but in fact a surrogate homeworld he was sent to in order to hide him from the Kro-Maggs. Oh yeah, and he has a brother who lives on AmishWorld, eerily enough played by his real life brother. Once again, the team is back up to 4 people.
4) Jerry O'Connel (Quinn) demands that SciFi make him Executive Producer of the show, hoping to steer it away from this godawful "Kro-Maggs attempting to dominate the entire multiverse" crap. SciFi fires him and his brother. Boy, they sure showed him, except for the part where that brilliant move singlehandedly killed the show.
4a) There is a "wormhole fluctuation" which leaves Quinn's brother "unstuck" in the multiverse (randomly hopping from dimension to dimension) and merges Quinn with the Quinn of the world they're sliding into, who preffers to be called "Mallory" and just happens to look absolutely nothing like Quinn at all. Rembrandt is now the only original Slider. Crying Man, indeed.
4b) Somewhere in episode 3 of the season another character is added, named Diana. I really don't remember her at all. Way to make 'em memorable, SciFi.
5) After defeating the villian of the season -- for some odd reason, Londo Mollari -- the Sliders slide into a world where a psychic has been watching their adventures from day one through the power of his mind (or cold reading, one of the two) and thusly provides the scripts for a wildly successful TV show called "Sliders". Upon their arrival people realize "wait, this guy isn't just some nutjob writer" and his company becomes immensely profitable.
5a) The psychic is a nice guy, but his financial staff isn't. They realize the cash cow that the Sliders are and do their best to make them miss their slide window, finally turning on a Kro-Magg slide-blocking device which does just that.
5c) The Sliders collectively kick the asses of the financial staff, turn off the slide-blocker, and discover an abandoned Kro-Magg sliding device. They activate it, but it's too unstable for them all to go through; only one of them can, and Rembrandt takes the initiative. The series finale ends with a pan back, focusing on the remaining Sliders who all look very sad, while sad music plays in the background and the not-Quinn says "What do we do now?"
So yeah, that's about it.
lol, nice synopsis
holy cow....that sounds god awful. I'm lucky I stopped watching during Season 1.
First two seasons = Yay!
Third Season = hmmmmm
4th and 5th season = Mommy, please make the bad men stop....
Agreed. And you know, this is actually almost a good, worthwhile post in OT. Say it ain't so!!
Yeah, pretty much.
Third Season was mostly iffy because Kari Wuhrer hadn't gotten her crap together yet. (Or the writers were too distracted by her boobs to write good dialogue for her) Yeah, it sucked that The Professor was gone, but whosiwhatsit from The Who was pretty damn cool. Still, I miss The Professor. They could have brought him back, too. Plenty of people wanted it, the show just got canned before they could. There was even a joke in the Series Finale about "Arturo's Return. See what a letter-writing campaign can do?"
As far as the Fourth and Fifth seasons... well, lemme lay out some of my basic beliefs on the subject of TV shows:
Take, for example, the wonderful show X-Files. The first couple of seasons, I think you'll agree, were pretty damn cool. Each episode was like, "okay, what weirdness is going to happen now?"
Enter the middle of the show's run. Suddenly, conspiracies are all the rage. Fox thinks: there's all sorts of people who support the Reynolds Wrap Haberdashery, so conspiracies must be popular, right? Well, yes and no. Conspiracies are good fuel, people like ranting about them... for a while. But conspiracies are also frustrating. The problem with conspiracies is that they never end like you want 'em to. (Except the Smoking Man. I still say that is in the top 10 best villain deaths of all time) Suddenly the show's ratings point to the floor faster than a... erm... floor... pointing... machine. Yeah.
So somewhere in there, Fox gets it, they come back to general weirdness. But for, pfft, a season, maybe. Then they start killin' off recurring characters left and right, trying to "shake things up". I guess "shake things up" means "take out all the comic relief, levity and sense of friendship."
In the end, the show returned to mindless, illogical, improbable conspiracies and vaguely hidden allegory to religion and politics. Thank god it's off the air.
Anyway, the point of that rambling set of paragraphs is thus: Season 4 and 5 focused too much on the season villain's "long game". Season 4 wasn't "what cool world are we going to slide into this time," it was, "what ungodly thing has the Kro-Magg war brought about this time?" And it was frustrating and depressing. Billions of people died because the Kro-Maggs are Genocidal bastards, whopee! Now I really want to watch this steaming pile on a weekly basis, you'd better believe it!
Season 5 was vaguely better, because frankly Peter Jurasik can play one of the best villains you love to hate, but it was overshadowed by the blatant removal of the "star" of the show and how much the writers had to grasp at straws. There were only a few really good random "look how weird this dimension is" episodes, which is what hooked most of us. They started to get it a little ways through, but it was too late by then. Now we have no more Sliders. Boo! BOOOOOO!
*Ahem* erm, sorry about the ranting. I just hate it when network idiocy kills really good TV, like Futurama.
Rant about Futurama, please. These posts are good reading.
Nicely said yukichigai.
Ooh ooh, no wait! Do the Simpsons first, it's sucked for years!!
what happened to Futurama?
You just had to ask, didn't you?
Have you ever wanted a good, publicly visible example of idiots destroying things they don't understand because they don't understand them? Look no further than Futurama.
Futurama started off as this joke, at least in my mind. "Oh goody," I said, "The Simpsons in Space. This is bound to suck." I was half right, it sucked... me in.
Okay, sorry, I'll stop with the lame jokes now. Maybe.
Anyway, I was truly amazed by the show; the art was superb, the voice acting was high-quality -- not the same, recycled crap -- and the jokes weren't just funny but smart-funny. That is a true rarity on American TV. Seriously. Count how many times you've had to convert from binary in order to understand a joke. (For bonus geek points, do it in binary) I had to check and make sure I wasn't watching BBC by mistake.
But no, amazingly enough, this ambrosiaic program was spewing forth from the biluous leather starfish called the Fox network. (Count the spelling errors, win a prize) I was amazed it'd even gotten to air. How did something so truly intelligent and funny get past the "bland and already done" board in Fox's programming division? Well I'll f%$#ing tell you how.
In case you hadn't noticed, Matt Groening is, how shall we say, an important man when it comes to animated telivision. Important like God, at least to the networks, which paints a truly odd picture of network execs since apparently they also don't mind beating the same God to the curb and stealing his ideas as their own if it meets their needs. Anyway, because Groening is, well, Groening, Fox let him have this wacky request for his own Sci-Fi animated show, complete with full creative control. "What's the worst that could happen, it turns into a horrible flop?"
No. No no no. See, the absolute worst that could happen for the Fox a-holes was what did happen: it became a rather impressive success. Even after it was moved out of the "sure thing" immediately-after-The-Simpsons slot, it was still a success. And they hated it. Hated it. Why? Because it wasn't theirs, and they didn't understand it.
It's one thing when a network can claim a show as their own; it gives them a huge PR boost, not because they have the show, but because of the amount of creative "veto power" they have they can claim they made the show, and are therefore responsible for it being good. But not with Futurama. Remember, Groening asked for complete control, and he got it. And it pissed Fox off to no end that he said "no" to every idiotic limiting idea they suggested and the show was still successful.
When someone doesn't listen to the network, the network gets angry. But when someone doesn't listen to the network and then does better because they didn't listen to the network, it makes them really angry. And embarassed. Every episode of Futurama they aired was basically a gigantic, 23-minute-long advertisement that said "Fox has no concept of the complexities of this show." And it was true. Fox's ideas were about as varied and fitting as John Pertwee's famous "technical" explanations in Doctor Who. (Exactly how many times can you "reverse the polarity of the neutron flow", Fox?)
So what did Fox do? They gave Futurama the ol' "Family Guy" treatment: play Schedule Football, make sure nobody knows when it's on, don't advertise it at all, (or worse, advertise it like Billy West pointed out in his recent Onion interview) and then cancel it because of "bad ratings." Genius. Truly original. F%$#heads.
In short, Fox, while partially responsible for the hour-long thrill-a-minute "OBEY YOUR GOVERNMENT" weekly propaganda piece called "24", (which I'm a die-hard fan of, mind you) has no idea how to appeal to the educated TV viewers, unless they happen to have a closet addiction to The Littlest Groom and My Surprise Paternity Test. I hope either the network execs get a clue (highly unlikely) or they all die in a fire. (highly likely if someone gives me a map and a flamethrower)
Oh, and the advertisement Billy West (the voice of Fry) was using as an example of how Fox was killing the show:
Thank God I can download my BBC shows. Otherwise I might have gone retarded by now.
yukichigai, have a :beer: Great read.
Don't give him too many, these rants are good. Don't ruin a good thing~!
You know, you might assume by the general tone of my posts I'd had three or four already, but you'd be wrong. I'm just sitting here in my boxers, petting my cat and half-watching the latest Bleach while I reminisce about the bad old days. So to summarize, how is this any different from any other night of my life, and why has it suddenly made me popular?
In other news, I need sleep. But don't worry, you can be sure I'll rant about The Simpsons after I get some rest. And blood tests. And loose permission enforcement rules on Windows domains which allow disgruntled ex-admins to seriously screw up registry entires on everyone's computer. Sweet monkey tuesday, that last one is seriously tempting me to stay up. I could rant for quite some time. Fortunately it wouldn't be entirely angry ranting, since I was getting paid a handsome hourly wage to remedy said problem. But I digress. Sleep now.
Who the f%$# am I kidding? It ain't sleep time until I start hallucinating that the post window is showing my words being typed on the side of a snowcovered mountain. (See: "Yuki takes Ambien and then stays up for a few hours"[/i])
Okay, The Simpsons. Let's look at this little animation gem, shall we? Now I've already talked to you about Matt Groening. He's a funny man in many respects. Funny writer, funny artist, even a little funny looking. But if there's anything I've learned in my years of modding games nobody cares about anymore, it's that there's a certain point at which you just plain run out of ideas. Good ones at least. How long does it take before your cerebellum has been tapped dry? (Or would it be your cererberum(sp?)?) I don't have an exact figure here, but my research indicates that in TV Seasons it's probably somewhere above 11 and below 16.
Honestly people, there's a point at which you just have to let the f%$# go. Yes, we all fear change. In today's world change is very often a bad thing. (Exceptions include: changing your motor oil, changing your underwear, and changing your long distance carrier to Sprint. Yes, I am a corporate whore. Kiss my richly renumerated tookus) I mean have you seen what they did to TVTome? But you can't keep something alive forever.
I like to think of TV shows as pets: you have your good pets, and your bad pets. Irrespective of those distinctions are the pets you love and the pets you hate. And then there are the stupid pets that run in front of the neighbor's riding lawnmower. (I call those pets "Point Pleasant") But like all pets, they can't live forever. Most TV shows have the lifespan of a cat: sure, you can keep 'em alive for 20-some years, but after about 12 years or so their age really starts to show. Occasionally you get something like a... erm... remind me of an animal that lives about 50 years or so -- but that's rare. There's a time when shows just have to go, and The Simpsons is nearing that time.
Hell, The Simpsons should have been on the way out years ago, had Fox not pulled the plug on Futurama. TV shows die, but that doesn't mean you don't get a cute furry new one to fill that void. Groening was perfectly poised to put 100% of his effort into Futurama. (Good God, could you imagine that?) But noooooooooooooo, we couldn't have that. We have to recycle the same thing over and over and over again.
It probably should have been a big clue when a bunch of the staff quit, including the one head writer who kept the other head writer sane. (I can never remember if it's Brad Bird or the other dude) And while it was temporarily amusing to have episodes based around The Prisoner, or endings where everyone goes surfing, there is a fine line between "reinventing the show" and "being out of your f%$#ing gourd."
Now I still enjoy the show, but compared to what it was it's a sad thing every time I turn it on. (read: download it) Every now and then there's an episode that's really funny, but it's hit or miss. The good jokes are too scattered. The only way I could see the show regaining its former quality is if they spent more time writing it, which would mean less new shows each season. But we can't do that, no no no. Gotta have our 22-- wait, 23-- wait, 25 episodes a year. Doesn't matter if one of 'em's just reused stills from that Quanza special we never aired, we need new Simpsons. And shows degrading obscure minorities, like siamese twins and dwarfs. That's quality TV!
I'll tell you what, Fox: you're going to have to bite the bullet someday. Pretty soon here Matt Groening is going to A) die, 2) get sick of recycling the same s%$#, or d) take up puppetry. You can only bribe a man with gold toilets for so long. And if he doesn't quit, eventually we'll quit watching. You've held our attention for 16 seasons with the same crap; give us something new.
In other news, the post window is looking icy, though not quite like a mountain range so much as a field at the moment. Sleep may attack me soon.
Wow, and I thought I watched too much TV :Q
damn, nice synop on sliders... i always wondered what happened to that show. I came in again on the later seasons and was completely confused. and sabrina lloyd is cute
Wow, one of the best threads I have read in a long time.