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Did my fiancee do anything wrong?

Gibson486

Gibson486

Lifer
So they are doing interviews for a position. My fiancée prepares by asking questions about the person's resume. After the interview, someone in the department (lets call her Diane) objects and says that my fiancée has no right to ask technical questions because she is not a manager. According to Diane, the non managerial people can only ask personality questions like "how do you work with people". My fiancée responds that she did nothing wrong. Diane gets their manager involved. The manager sees no issue with the questions my fiancée asked. Diane then continues even and says that my fiancée “was being to positive during the interview”. According to Diane, the “correct way” to interview people is to be as indifferent as possible during an interview and not show emotion. Diane knows because she “has given interviews before and took a class on how to interview”.

So, did my fiancee do anything wring or is Diane just on a high horse or something?
 
Fuck Diane. She was pissed because she needs to be queen of the shit pile, and she can't even stand the inference that a mere underling might be able to do her job.
 
so what is the outcome of this thread? if our answers say your fiancee was right, is she going to go to diane on monday and say "haha! atot says I am right!"

If we say she is wrong, is your fiancee going to going to offer her resignation as punishment for doing the interview incorrectly?

Seriously, whats the point? It's over and done with, water under the bridge, etc.
 
HR just doing her job, which is to know the policy line by line, and ignore all practicality.
 
pontifex said:
so what is the outcome of this thread? if our answers say your fiancee was right, is she going to go to diane on monday and say "haha! atot says I am right!"

If we say she is wrong, is your fiancee going to going to offer her resignation as punishment for doing the interview incorrectly?

Seriously, whats the point? It's over and done with, water under the bridge, etc.
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none of the above. I mean, just like the majority of the posts on ATOT, they really serve no purpose.
 
The people who conducted my interviews were all nice and positive. Some even started unrelated conversations and small talk. I was the serious guy at first but then went along with them.

Diane is whack.
 
I always shudder at HR interviews. What are they going to ask me? They know nothing of the job I do or, the requirements of the job they are being asked to fill. Do I play nice with others? Yes, as long as the others do their job. Do I really have more education than they or the department head they're hiring for have? Yes, I do. Do I follow company policy without question? Til my dying breathe and I promise to never hold the company responsible for anything ever. My problem is I'm an exceedingly bad liar. Thank God, I made the decision not to work for corporations ever again.
 
The only possible solution to this is mud wrestling. I'll set up the pit, get them both in bikinis and over here pronto.

EDIT: Who has a HD video camera and some server space avalible?
 
SMOGZINN said:
The only possible solution to this is mud wrestling. I'll set up the pit, get them both in bikinis and over here pronto.

EDIT: Who has a HD video camera and some server space avalible?
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I'll ask if that is a possibility....

***comes back with slap mark***

They both said no 🙁
 
Gibson486 said:
I'll ask if that is a possibility....

***comes back with slap mark***

They both said no 🙁
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Yes, that happened to me that last few times I tried that solution as well.
I did get a couple of people to agree to settle their differences with a dance off once though.
 
Ummm just about any job I've ever been in it was always the team members that really ask the tech questions and the managers always deferred to us on assessing the technical apptitude of an applicant.
 
SMOGZINN said:
The only possible solution to this is mud wrestling. I'll set up the pit, get them both in bikinis and over here pronto.

EDIT: Who has a HD video camera and some server space avalible?
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Amateur.

Topless wrestling in oil pit FTW. 😛

On topic = is Diane a big cheese? No? then she needs to shut up.
 
MagnusTheBrewer said:
I always shudder at HR interviews. What are they going to ask me? They know nothing of the job I do or, the requirements of the job they are being asked to fill. Do I play nice with others? Yes, as long as the others do their job. Do I really have more education than they or the department head they're hiring for have? Yes, I do. Do I follow company policy without question? Til my dying breathe and I promise to never hold the company responsible for anything ever. My problem is I'm an exceedingly bad liar. Thank God, I made the decision not to work for corporations ever again.
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I love this generality that HR has no idea about the jobs that they are interview for. The HR model has been shifting to the business partner / strategic partner model for quite awhile now, and any decent HR department has employees who know the business just as well as the employees.

I go underground on a weekly basis. I've operated a loader, haul truck, grader, etc. I've worked in the shop on jumbos. I've seen how a crusher, HMS circuit, grind/float circuit work. And, my team can sit with the hiring manager and engage a candidate in the same manner with the addition of behavioral interviewing knowledge. But here's the great thing about the business partner model. The hiring managers want, and do, learn interviewing techniques as well.

I love that 2.5% attrition rate.
 
Did this need a thread? Really? Did you ask because if ATOT says yes you are going to read her the riot act or something? GTFO.

The manager sees no issue with the questions my fiancée asked.
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I've been in interviews with people like Diane. It's a very good way to turn people off to your company because it appears that you'd be working with robots. If the person interviewing me isn't friendly, then I don't want to work there, and likewise if I'm interviewing someone who isn't friendly then I don't want to hire them.
 
SacrosanctFiend said:
I love this generality that HR has no idea about the jobs that they are interview for. The HR model has been shifting to the business partner / strategic partner model for quite awhile now, and any decent HR department has employees who know the business just as well as the employees.

I go underground on a weekly basis. I've operated a loader, haul truck, grader, etc. I've worked in the shop on jumbos. I've seen how a crusher, HMS circuit, grind/float circuit work. And, my team can sit with the hiring manager and engage a candidate in the same manner with the addition of behavioral interviewing knowledge. But here's the great thing about the business partner model. The hiring managers want, and do, learn interviewing techniques as well.

I love that 2.5% attrition rate.
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Yay for you! In 35 years of working in the hospitality and food industry all over this country, I have NEVER met anyone in HR including the largest food service corporations in the world, who had any idea of the requirements of the jobs they were hiring for. They all have been simply another hurdle to overcome to get to a Chef or F&B Manager who actually knew what they needed. It may be different in other industries but, I can tell you as an authority in my field, there is NO place for HR in the hiring process for the food industry,
 
In my experience, the people who think HR has no purpose are also the same people who see no problem with asking their interviewees whether they have kids. There are tons of idiotic HR people (I think I've worked with about half of them in the US) but there are tons of idiotic hiring managers too. For every person who gets no value out of HR, there are five that do even if they don't know it.

Your fiancee sounds like she interviewed just fine. Diane is a dumbass.
 
Svnla said:
Amateur.

Topless wrestling in oil pit FTW. 😛

On topic = is Diane a big cheese? No? then she needs to shut up.
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Big cheese? no, but she has seniority over my fiancee. That said, after the smoke cleared, I think their boss got sick of it and just told my fiancee to take an interviewing class as Diane suggested just to end it. Also, she is kind of annoying. I met her once and the whole time she kept going on about how she thinks her Alma Mater (University of Chicago) is better than Harvard University. It was a pretty tiring experience.
 
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