Did I mention I was doing Atkins?

IronWing

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I feel my self righteousness rising as sure as Kilimanjaro rises like Olympus above the Serangetti. I am better than you. I feel great!

Discuss.
 

Engineer

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Who is this Atkins woman that you are doing and how much did you pay her to let an old fuck like you do her?
 

nageov3t

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I probably lost more weight than you weigh and kept it off, without using a fad diet.

GG fatty :p
 

zinfamous

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I don't know the tenets of Atkins per se, but cutting most sugar from your diet and limiting the amount of carbs you eat is not at all "bad" for you.

it's about limiting bad carbs, not all carbs. the Atkins concept is a good thing, but the craziest of Atkins zealots take it wy too far, based on ignorance and pseudo science.

those that refuse to eat fruit, for example, b/c it "contains carbs."

what a bunch of fools.

you can tell who the zealots are when the open their mouths and you're assaulted with halitosis. This happens when all you eat is meat and cheese and refuse to eat carbs (esp fruit).
 

Nintendesert

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So it's simply better to cut out the refined carbs and artificial sugars from your diet. Good luck living without Twinkies!
 

nageov3t

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So it's simply better to cut out the refined carbs and artificial sugars from your diet. Good luck living without Twinkies!
don't you understand? it's the high-fructose corn syrup that's making you fat, not the cupfulls of cane sugar I'm knocking back.
 

Soccerman06

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Im just curious why atkins people say its ok for their body to go into starvation mode for a diet, why not just eat less and follow physics, energy in < energy out = weight loss. Or do we need to have a health lesson?
 

IronWing

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Im just curious why atkins people say its ok for their body to go into starvation mode for a diet, why not just eat less and follow physics, energy in < energy out = weight loss. Or do we need to have a health lesson?
The basic idea is that carbs/sugar trigger an insulin release in the body that facilitates the conversion of glucose to storable fat. The consumption of fat doesn't trigger the same insulin reaction. So eating equal calories in the form of carbs/sugar may lead to more fat storage than the same caloric consumption of fat. Somewhere around chapter 22, Atkins mentions exercise as necessary.

I'm reading the book for the first time right now. I switched to an Atkinsesque diet a few years ago and it has worked very well. So I thought I'd read the book and see what he has to say. So far my impression is that the 500+ page book could be a twenty page pamphlet if the editors would cut out the cheerleading/sensationalizing/inspirationalizing nonsense and just stick to an explanation of blood chemistry and metabolic processes.
 

cKGunslinger

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Im just curious why atkins people say its ok for their body to go into starvation mode for a diet, why not just eat less and follow physics, energy in < energy out = weight loss. Or do we need to have a health lesson?

While "energy in < energy out = weight loss" is good rule of thumb that would benefit most people, it's actually not quite that simple.. and not always true.

edit: IronWing is on it. Also, Good Calories, Bad Calories is a good reference (but not really a fun read.)
 

dullard

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While "energy in < energy out = weight loss" is good rule of thumb that would benefit most people, it's actually not quite that simple.. and not always true.
Actually, it is never true. Here are two always truthful corrections:

Energy in < Energy out = ENERGY loss
Mass in < Mass out = Mass loss

Replace mass with weight and it'll be true as long as you stay in the same gravitational pull. But equating energy and mass in the same equation is almost never correct (unless we are talking nuclear reactions or something similar that has nothing to do with human weight gain/loss).