Ok, here is my sad little story. About 6 weeks ago my parents PC took a nosedive. They were going o buy a pre-built K6-500 with some cheap internals. I convinced them to let me build them one ( Why not, I have built 3 others already) for just a little more money but better quality parts and expandability. So we head off to the local PC store and we get a Celly 566, Asus cuv4x board, 64mg PC100, WD 10gig DMA/66, voodoo 3 2000, SB live Value and a gorb and just a generic case. Nothing fancy , just enough for them. So I get it together after a week or so ( I have a life too) and when it first fires up it starts to hang while me and the wife are setting the periferals in the bios. After about 10 re-boots we start getting errors that say the CPU speed cannot be detected. So after 2 hours we call it a night. I go to the store a few days later and they swap me boards as they think that's the culprit. Now we finally get it going and we load the OS. I take it to my parents and set it up and with in 24 hours it hangs on them. We think it's the RAM. so back to the store, they swap RAM and we go home. Next day, it hangs again, we re-load W98 and all the board drivers. a few days later, it hangs. Now its been at least 3 weeks and we are getting no where. I'm pissed the wife is pissed and so are my parents. So we take it to the store for them to fix it. 2 days later they say it's fixed. They disable the on-board sound as it is conflicting with the SB and the load the latest drivers for the SB. Sounds good to me. Get it home, hangs with in 7 hours. back to the store. Now they say the CPU is incompatable with the board and we need a Coppermine. WTF!
BUT.....our 566 is now past the 25 day warranty and they won't refund us for it. So I go to the store today. The guy says the 566 won't work with the board but a coppermine will. I say "whats the difference between a celly and a CM, except that the LL2 cache is disabled". He say "Um, I don't know". I say there is no way I should get the shaft for a Chip that has spent over a week in their store and that hasn't worked for more then 24 hours strait. He goes to the back and comes back and says he will give my 30% of the purchase price($99) for it. It was $119 when I bought it. I say how much I think that sucks but I take the Coppermine 600 anyways. For another $165. So he installs the new chip and gives me the PC back. I ask him where my old 566 is and he says it's back on the shelf because there is nothing wrong with it. So now some other poor sap is going to get this little beauty. As a parting shot I tell him that the shouldn't advertise a board that will support a celly if in fact it won't. Here is the good part, he say's but it does support it. WTF. So I ask him if supporting it and it running are to different things. He says yes. So does he think that re-booting every day is normal... I have never been so pissed in my life. On the way out the door I say very loudly in front of the other customers that I will never be back to buy any of there SH!T again. So, did I get the shaft
I also just noticed that Russ's store is about 15 minutes from my house so I know where I will do my shopping from now on.
BUT.....our 566 is now past the 25 day warranty and they won't refund us for it. So I go to the store today. The guy says the 566 won't work with the board but a coppermine will. I say "whats the difference between a celly and a CM, except that the LL2 cache is disabled". He say "Um, I don't know". I say there is no way I should get the shaft for a Chip that has spent over a week in their store and that hasn't worked for more then 24 hours strait. He goes to the back and comes back and says he will give my 30% of the purchase price($99) for it. It was $119 when I bought it. I say how much I think that sucks but I take the Coppermine 600 anyways. For another $165. So he installs the new chip and gives me the PC back. I ask him where my old 566 is and he says it's back on the shelf because there is nothing wrong with it. So now some other poor sap is going to get this little beauty. As a parting shot I tell him that the shouldn't advertise a board that will support a celly if in fact it won't. Here is the good part, he say's but it does support it. WTF. So I ask him if supporting it and it running are to different things. He says yes. So does he think that re-booting every day is normal... I have never been so pissed in my life. On the way out the door I say very loudly in front of the other customers that I will never be back to buy any of there SH!T again. So, did I get the shaft
I also just noticed that Russ's store is about 15 minutes from my house so I know where I will do my shopping from now on.