Did I do the right thing?

[Abhi]

Originally posted by: pyonir

Originally posted by: Bootprint

On a 33k modem and with Leet security software?

Sounds like someones more pissed at getting pwned by a 5th grader.

LMAO

LOLZ

 

[FreshCrabLegs]

Originally posted by: Nebor
Why is her dad letting you decide this? If I were her dad, I would kick your ass for being mean to my little girl.

I think she's a bastard child, unloved by both her deadbeat Father, and flakey Mother (who's dating a convict).

From the posts that I've read, no one loves her. Her Mother, Her Father, Her Grandparents nor her Uncle. No wonder she's rebellious and looking for attention on the internet.

Hrmm...

I believe the girl needs unconditional love.

Just my $0.02.

BTW, I'm a gonna read the rest of the posts to see what I've missed then post a more in depth reply. Cheers. :brokenheart:

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: rahvin
You know it wouldn't be difficult to verify the identity of the people she is talking to if you bothered to talk to her about it. If it's people her own age I don't think it's a big deal. Frankly I think by the time she's 16 she's going to hate you, her parents and will likely end up getting pregnant or something stupid because your are so severly restricting her personal freedom. But I guess that's what happens when you don't talk to a kid and just react on innuendo and suspicion.

You're mistaken about the "by the time she's 16" part - she's hated me since the day she moved here at age 3. Ever since her "mommy" ran off to Colorado with a fscking fugitive, she's been fighting EVERYBODY tooth and nail about EVERYTHING. We damn near signed her back over to her mother and put her on a bus, but my retard sister wouldn't sign the papers taking her back. As far as verifying the identity of people, that's easy for me to do, but the issue is that she didn't even ask, she just got the information and gave it away.

As for the getting knocked up stuff, I don't think there's ever been a question about that, she's ALWAYS refused to go to school if she isn't allowed to dress like a streetwalker. Her mother/my sister got her started on that when she was a little tiny baby - she thinks it's "pretty." To this day, her favorite movie is "Showgirls" (Don't ask, more of my sister's infinitely awesome parenting skills) and she still says she wants to be one when she grows up. HURRAH.

Oh, and personal freedom stops at the threshold of responsibility. If I don't return a library book and they won't let me take out a new one until I pay the fines, they're restricting my personal freedom, but just because I was irresponsible.

Ah, after reading this I see the source of the hostility and the draconian things done towards this little girl. For her sake I hope someone gets her out of this house as soon as possible. Her daily life must be a living hell. Can you imagine what other rules and consequences she has to live with?

I wonder how often she is reminded about what everyone thinks about her mother.

 

[MrColin]

Originally posted by: Yossarian

Originally posted by: edmicman
isn't making her use a mac punishment enough?

lol She should be put into a prison camp until she's 18 and receive regular beatings for her disregard of the rules.

To the OP, seriously man, taking away the computer is not the answer. You sound like a bit of a maniac with your ranting. Disable all internet access and do a better job teaching her how dangerous it is to give out personal information.

Oh and about passwords, you really can't win. Rule #1--don't use the same password in multiple places. Rule #2--never write your passwords down. Try to meet both those requirements after a week online and you either fail or have the memory of an elephant.

I can't think of any reason she shouldn't have access to a standalone or crppled system w/ no internet. You or your father really need to explain why it is dangerous for her to give out personal info on the net, ie her pen pal may not be another 5th grader at all but a very bad and scary adult that could hurt her. Also, your whole family should go and see a doctor about the foreign objects you have lodged in your butts. Also keep in mind that punishment is NOT a very effective tool to shape behavior. Giving positive attention for appropriate behavior yeilds exponentially better results (proven by research).

Also you should investigate the info from the person who sent the letter here maybe or maybe here.

 

[FriedToast]

Originally posted by: PCMarcelino

Originally posted by: Nebor
Why is her dad letting you decide this? If I were her dad, I would kick your ass for being mean to my little girl.

I think she's a bastard child, unloved by both her deadbeat Father, and flakey Mother (who's dating a convict).

From the posts that I've read, no one loves her. Her Mother, Her Father, Her Grandparents nor her Uncle. No wonder she's rebellious and looking for attention on the internet.

Hrmm...

I believe the girl needs unconditional love.

Just my $0.02.

BTW, I'm a gonna read the rest of the posts to see what I've missed then post a more in depth reply. Cheers. :brokenheart:

I agree completely.

Sad that we're seeing the formation of a ruined life right here in progress. It'll be a miracle if this girl gets her head squared away enough to have a 1/2way normal life.

I bet she'd die for a simple hug. Screw the computer crap, that's superficial. This girl needs love.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: rahvin
You know it wouldn't be difficult to verify the identity of the people she is talking to if you bothered to talk to her about it. If it's people her own age I don't think it's a big deal. Frankly I think by the time she's 16 she's going to hate you, her parents and will likely end up getting pregnant or something stupid because your are so severly restricting her personal freedom. But I guess that's what happens when you don't talk to a kid and just react on innuendo and suspicion.

You're mistaken about the "by the time she's 16" part - she's hated me since the day she moved here at age 3. Ever since her "mommy" ran off to Colorado with a fscking fugitive, she's been fighting EVERYBODY tooth and nail about EVERYTHING. We damn near signed her back over to her mother and put her on a bus, but my retard sister wouldn't sign the papers taking her back. As far as verifying the identity of people, that's easy for me to do, but the issue is that she didn't even ask, she just got the information and gave it away.

As for the getting knocked up stuff, I don't think there's ever been a question about that, she's ALWAYS refused to go to school if she isn't allowed to dress like a streetwalker. Her mother/my sister got her started on that when she was a little tiny baby - she thinks it's "pretty." To this day, her favorite movie is "Showgirls" (Don't ask, more of my sister's infinitely awesome parenting skills) and she still says she wants to be one when she grows up. HURRAH.

Oh, and personal freedom stops at the threshold of responsibility. If I don't return a library book and they won't let me take out a new one until I pay the fines, they're restricting my personal freedom, but just because I was irresponsible.

It's obvious that you hate your sister because she's dumped her child on your parents which deprieves you of time,attention and probably money that you feel is your due.

I feel badly for this little girl,you're transfering your rage over onto her,she's not responsible for the actions of her parents or for your parent's choice to become legally responsible for raising her.


Why not teach the kid how to enjoy the web safely? I did with my kids,heck they even met people from the web at various times and it was done in a sane,safe way that turned out to be a fun,good thing for everyone involved.

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Yes, she was aware of the rules and boundaries set for her, and she has broken them on numerous occasions (By crying until an adult gave in). Namely:
One hour intarweb/night (The line she uses to dial-in is the voice line)
DO NOT FSCKING PUT PASSWORDS ANYWHERE EXCEPT YOUR MIND
No online games. Period.
No filling out forms - period.
One email account - period.
DO NOT SAVE SH!T TO THE DESKTOP
Do not abuse the Macintosh internal speaker by using it to play rap music. Your headphones are fine, but my speaker is not.

And what was in the envelope? A letter, some pictures of a little girl and a cute puppy and some magnets (wtf?)

Lol, you are getting worked up over people saving things to the desktop and using speakers to listen to music (GASP).

What an ID10T.

 

[skace]

Well, you are more than a control freak. You are a loser. The biggest kind. The kind that takes every day things and turns them into tools for controlling others. The kind that thinks their preferences are the only preferences. The kind that can be completely hypocritical without even flinching.

What address can we send letters to, to inform this little girl that not everyone is as thoroughly screwed up as you.

Lastly, this thread is most likely a joke. Perhaps your life is so boring that you make things up. Either way, I have a hard time buying that anyone is as ignorant as you.

 

[Thegonagle]

The girl DID give out her home address, but at least it doesn't look like anything of consequense has come from it. Hopefully, she'll be more careful in the future. (But teach her WHY! Without the why, the only thing she perceives is that she lives with a bunch of jerks.)

All the rest of it, the "hellacious" security on the home (ha-ha) network, the virtual lock-down because she made a pen-pal, it's overkill.

 

[Shockwave]

I cant believe I read all that. I read every post. Wow.....Just.....Wow.....
I need to go outside or something.....

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

If the OP conveys the same amount of warmth and affection in RL has he has here, then there is little wonder why the girl hates him. IF the whole house is like that then there is little wonder why she wanted to spend so much time on the computer.

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Yes, she was aware of the rules and boundaries set for her, and she has broken them on numerous occasions (By crying until an adult gave in). Namely:
One hour intarweb/night (The line she uses to dial-in is the voice line)
DO NOT FSCKING PUT PASSWORDS ANYWHERE EXCEPT YOUR MIND
No online games. Period.
No filling out forms - period.
One email account - period.
DO NOT SAVE SH!T TO THE DESKTOP
Do not abuse the Macintosh internal speaker by using it to play rap music. Your headphones are fine, but my speaker is not.

And what was in the envelope? A letter, some pictures of a little girl and a cute puppy and some magnets (wtf?)

You might want to check and see...maybe the letter is benign.
HOWEVER, your actions seem perfectly fine. She should have told you she was expecting something, told you about whoever it is, and NOT SAVED PASSWORDS.
My parents would have done the same thing, and been right to do so.

Note that I did (and still do every now and then, but am a bit more busy) have an internet acquaintence (there's a better word, but I can't recall it), and did recieve something in the mail (Tribes ). But my parents were informed about it and such, so no big deal. And I was on a household domain at the time, with my dad as an admin.


....now fast forward a week. She gets 'net access back, disable saving to the desktop, and let things go back to normal.

 

[Rufio]

loser!

 

[Thump553]

Originally posted by: FriedToastSad that we're seeing the formation of a ruined life right here in progress. It'll be a miracle if this girl gets her head squared away enough to have a 1/2way normal life.

I bet she'd die for a simple hug. Screw the computer crap, that's superficial. This girl needs love.

I totally agree. Kids need stability. This poor kid has been probably hearing it regularly from her "uncle" that he wants her thrown out of the house since she was in kindergarten. Get counseling, for everyone in the house, immediately.

 

[Ranger X]

So what the hell was in the envelope you Network Nazi? Was it a, "Let's meet somewhere" mail with photos?

 

[pillage2001]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Yes, she was aware of the rules and boundaries set for her, and she has broken them on numerous occasions (By crying until an adult gave in). Namely:
One hour intarweb/night (The line she uses to dial-in is the voice line)
DO NOT FSCKING PUT PASSWORDS ANYWHERE EXCEPT YOUR MIND
No online games. Period.
No filling out forms - period.
One email account - period.
DO NOT SAVE SH!T TO THE DESKTOP
Do not abuse the Macintosh internal speaker by using it to play rap music. Your headphones are fine, but my speaker is not.

And what was in the envelope? A letter, some pictures of a little girl and a cute puppy and some magnets (wtf?)

Haha... those are some pretty dumb rules. Do you actually refer to yourself as "the Administrator?"

Negative. My brother does, though. And what's so dumb about them?
Excessive time spent on voice line = bad
Passwords stored in text file = for morons
Games = IMMENSE waste of time since it takes about an hour to load a flash game @ 33.6
Forms = Potential for disaster, seeing that 99.9999% of forms on teh intarweb sign you up for a pr0n list or spam or some other such nonsense
One email = For ease of monitoring
No desktop saving = That just pisses me off, other people use that computer
Rap music = suck

WTF, do you even monitor what's coming into her email?! WTF are you trying to do to a girl that's trying to play some yahoo games and what not? Seems like you were deprived of such previledge and you're passing it on to others. Is she even aware that you're looking through her emails?

Are you the guy, whose sister had a bf tried to cut himself and slept on her bed?

In another words, you're full of it. Do you even monitor your neice showering so that she's not touching herself in the wrong places seeing that she's that young?

How the fck is she going to trust anyboy in public when she can't trust family?!

 

[MaxDepth]

more monkey.



less talk.

 

[GasX]

Does this mean we won't be meeting at the playground on Wednesday afternoon?

 

[dquan97]

what's the big deal about having a female* pen pal?

*assuming from the contents of letter

 

[OffTopic1]

You definitely have issues. Could it be that you felt left out by your parents when they took her in. Grow up and be a loving uncle instead of a jealous nazi.

IMHO, by your definition of the email content it wasn?t anything that deserve to be punish so harshly. How would you like to be in her shoes for a moment that your mom & dad abandoned you, then have an asshat uncle that insists on making your life miserable.

Hello, didn?t you stop & think for a second that a good friend (or a only friend that she could relate to) at school moved to OH, and now email is the only contact that they have with each other. And, then have the asshat uncle ruined it for her.

Woudn't it be better to talked to her while out for an ice-cream ask her nicely who the email from & how she managed to know a person so far away.

 

[mattlear]

Ok, one thing I'm not understanding... the whole "DON'T PUT SH*T ON THE DESKTOP" rant.

If the OP is such a good administrator, why don't his "users" have DIFFERENT PROFILES with DIFFERENT RIGHTS?

Even is she DID install something to the desktop, it would only be HER desktop.

This is a windows environment, right?

Am I missing something, or is the OP just a complete @sshat?

 

[makessense]

hmm... looks like the creator of this thread ran.. hasn't posted for awhile. Maybe his parents found out he was keeping the little girl on lockdown and banned him from the computer.

 

[Deeko]

This guy is INSANE. Its not even HIS kid. He is being hardcore insane nazi-dad for a kid that isn't even his, that he doesn't even WANT in his family. Sounds like you're just bitter cuz the girl doesn't like you....poor guy.

 

[i3rYs0n]

Why are games bad? I mean monitor what she plays, hell it could possibly keep her out of chatrooms. Um bye reading the letter did u find out that it was from someone weird that you wouldn't want ur neice talking too. I mean there are freaks outthere, but hell since u restricted everything but chatroom access (i guess the ones that you don't have to sign up for, oh gah those are the best right? :-/) she may have found someone that was her age, that understood her better than her uncle that sounds like a bitch about how bad a computer is.

Teach her the good stuff about a comptuer, don't just give her rules, and stomp her life if she messes up, for god sakes she's (edit** in 5th grade). If you continue like this, you will have ur second heart attack when she is 16.

Just my few cents.

 

[joinT]

Originally posted by: dullard

Take the computer games away, take the internet away. But don't take away her ability to get good grades by typing her reports.

I kind of agree with that. Just remove the modem & clean up the computer. If after a while she's been good - then maybe you can install some of those free games that come with cereal boxes. (Winnie the Pooh puzzle's, Operation, etc.)

It's obviously the internet and not the computer that has suckered her. Remove the internet and all should be gravy (yea she'll whine - but you know how to handle that)