Did homo sapiens evolve from apes?

gflores

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I guess this is part of the evolution question. So, is there evidence from skeletal findings that support this? Is this generally accepted by scientists?
 

Kenazo

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Keep in mind that apes as we know them, according to evolution, also would have evolved. So did we evolve from Apes, no. Did we evolve from a common ancestor, in all likelihood, yes.
 

imported_Tick

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Originally posted by: Kenazo
Keep in mind that apes as we know them, according to Evolution also would have evolved, so did we evolve from Apes, no, did we evolve from a common ancestor, in all likelihood, yes.


There is some debate over when exactly we split, and exactly the evolutionary route we took, but yes, in all likelyhood, we did.
 

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Originally posted by: Tick
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Keep in mind that apes as we know them, according to Evolution also would have evolved, so did we evolve from Apes, no, did we evolve from a common ancestor, in all likelihood, yes.


There is some debate over when exactly we split, and exactly the evolutionary route we took, but yes, in all likelyhood, we did.

Agreed.

Still, I have a feeling this thread is going to devolve fast.
 

Descartes

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For crying out loud, why do people have to regurgitate the same questions/answers? Do you really think you'll get an answer to such a question in a forum post at midnight (EST) on a Saturday?

If you are really curious then you will need to do some reading.

Here
Here
Here

and the unequivocal best online resource for this topic: Talk Origins.
 

dderidex

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Originally posted by: Descartes
and the unequivocal best online resource for this topic: Talk Origins.

Quoted for abso-friggin-lutely the truth!

That site is a GOLDMINE of information! Including several 'FAQ' sections covering aspects of the topic in detail.

If you can't come to an understanding after spending some time there, you either have a learning disability, or are some kind of religious fundamentalist (whether those are both the same thing is a discussion for P&N - which is PROBABLY where this thread belongs in the first place)
 

imported_Tick

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Originally posted by: Descartes
For crying out loud, why do people have to regurgitate the same questions/answers? Do you really think you'll get an answer to such a question in a forum post at midnight (EST) on a Saturday?

It may have something to do with postcount...

And if he was really intereste in a long complicated response, he would have sought one out himeself. I just think he was trying to start a flame war, and I figured I'd get my bost in before the lock.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Kenazo
Keep in mind that apes as we know them, according to evolution, also would have evolved. So did we evolve from Apes, no. Did we evolve from a common ancestor, in all likelihood, yes.

Unless, of course, you're blinded by religion and you're too dumb to read the writing on the wall. Because God put the writing on the wall just to test your faith you know.

Remember, God loves you more than anyone else, although he does like to occasionally wipe people out in Tsunamis and earthquakes, and created a place called Hell to let the people suffer in.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: Tick
And if he was really intereste in a long complicated response, he would have sought one out himeself. I just think he was trying to start a flame war, and I figured I'd get my bost in before the lock.

Unfortunately I find that rarely to be the case. People seek, find, and consider sufficient a little anecdotal response on complex topics that would keep anyone entertained for years.
 

Kenazo

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Keep in mind that apes as we know them, according to evolution, also would have evolved. So did we evolve from Apes, no. Did we evolve from a common ancestor, in all likelihood, yes.

Unless, of course, you're blinded by religion and you're too dumb to read the writing on the wall. Because God put the writing on the wall just to test your faith you know.

Remember, God loves you more than anyone else, although he does like to occasionally wipe people out in Tsunamis and earthquakes, and created a place called Hell to let the people suffer in.

Interestingly enough I'm a Christian and believe in said God.
 

imported_Tick

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Tick
And if he was really intereste in a long complicated response, he would have sought one out himeself. I just think he was trying to start a flame war, and I figured I'd get my bost in before the lock.

Unfortunately I find that rarely to be the case. People seek, find, and consider sufficient a little anecdotal response on complex topics that would keep anyone entertained for years.

Perhaps. However, I still think in this case that he was baiting us. And I really doubt that anyone who isn't already an archeologist or anthropologist or palentologist would really be amused for years on the topic of origins. Maybe 6-7 months. At most.
 

imported_Tick

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Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Keep in mind that apes as we know them, according to evolution, also would have evolved. So did we evolve from Apes, no. Did we evolve from a common ancestor, in all likelihood, yes.

Unless, of course, you're blinded by religion and you're too dumb to read the writing on the wall. Because God put the writing on the wall just to test your faith you know.

Remember, God loves you more than anyone else, although he does like to occasionally wipe people out in Tsunamis and earthquakes, and created a place called Hell to let the people suffer in.

Interestingly enough I'm a Christian and believe in said God.

Special.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Lobstar
P&N is one category below OT

Are you retarded?

You've been here for 5 days and you're telling someone they should post in P&N when the question had nothing to do with politics OR news.
 

mercanucaribe

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We ARE apes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apes

Apes are the members of the Hominoidea superfamily of primates, including humans. There are two families of hominoids:

* the family Hylobatidae consists of 12 species of gibbons, including the Lar and the Siamang, collectively known as the "lesser apes"
* the family Hominidae consisting of gorillas, chimpanzees, orangutans, and humans, collectively known as the "great apes".

A few other primates have the word "ape" in their name, but they are not regarded as true apes.

Except for gorillas and humans, all true apes are agile climbers of trees. They are best described as omnivorous, their diet consisting of fruit, grass seeds, and in most cases small quantities of meat (either hunted or scavenged), along with anything else available and easily digested.

Contrary to the beliefs of many creationist ATOTers, humans do not have our own order, family, and genus. We are biologically apes, and therefore all descended from a common ancestor.

If your beliefs conflict with biology, you can always subscribe to these theories:
The intelligence and humanoid appearance of apes are responsible for legends which attribute human qualities; for example, apes are sometimes said to be able to speak but refuse to do so in order to avoid work. They are also said to be the result of a curse?a Jewish folktale claims that one of the races who built the Tower of Babel became apes as punishment, while Muslim lore says that the Jews of Elath became apes as punishment for fishing on the Sabbath. Christian folklore claims that apes are a symbol of lust and were created by Satan in response to God's creation of humans. It is uncertain whether any of these references is specifically to apes, since all date from a period when the distinction between apes and monkeys was not widely understood, or not understood at all.
 

djheater

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Originally posted by: gflores
I guess this is part of the evolution question. So, is there evidence from skeletal findings that support this? Is this generally accepted by scientists?

OMGWTFEVOLUTION.

Let me ask you, if you had a crisis of faith would you sit down with a minister?

I think you need to chat with a biology professor because your understanding of basic sicentific principals is severely fvcked.