Did Democrats Whine About Germany's Future Potential Problems When The Wall Came Down?

[Ornery]

How anybody can be bitching and whining today, about what might go wrong in the coming months in the Middle East, is beyond me. The actual "end of the war" is going to be pretty damn anticlimactic after this. If you can't savor this moment in history, there's no hope for you!

 

[Corn]

Something I learned about people a long time ago:

Invariably at some point you can please most of the people some of the time. Then there's liberal democrats.



badaboom.

 

[SuperTool]

Are you not familiar with Germany's current economic problems?
The integration is not going very smoothly, and its been what, 13 years now?

 

[Ornery]

We all knew that would be the case, but we didn't dwell on it that day! Lighten up, today is HUGE!

 

[AndrewR]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Are you not familiar with Germany's current economic problems?
The integration is not going very smoothly, and its been what, 13 years now?

Well, damn it then -- rebuild the wall! Let's give those Stalinists another chance. They weren't ALL bad, were they? I mean, they had good Olympic teams, and there wasn't a great deal of crime, other than the horrific practices of the Stasi. Then again, I am sure that the East Germans, like the Iraqis, actually enjoyed the repression, and all the celebrations were staged.

 

[Corn]

Are you not familiar with Germany's current economic problems?
The integration is not going very smoothly, and its been what, 13 years now?

Invariably at some point you can please most of the people some of the time. Then there's liberal democrats.

I rest my case.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Corn
Something I learned about people a long time ago:

Invariably at some point you can please most of the people some of the time. Then there's liberal democrats.



badaboom.

Fortunately most Democratsd aren't liberal and most Republicans are Buck Passers like Ornery. Moderates always rule the day because Moderates are those who actually are capable of thinking outside the box.

 

[Ornery]

My wife's boss let her come home early today, for no good reason, other than she was a little tired. We sat down and watched the news just in time to see our troops replace the thin rope with a heavy chain around the statue's neck. Watched the Iraqis throwing shoes at it, stomp on it and finally ride the head around the square. They mentioned that the BBC was covering an Earthquake in China, rather than the statue toppling.

Well, I'll never forget the moment. It was a once in a lifetime event!

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Are you not familiar with Germany's current economic problems?
The integration is not going very smoothly, and its been what, 13 years now?

Well, damn it then -- rebuild the wall! Let's give those Stalinists another chance. They weren't ALL bad, were they? I mean, they had good Olympic teams, and there wasn't a great deal of crime, other than the horrific practices of the Stasi. Then again, I am sure that the East Germans, like the Iraqis, actually enjoyed the repression, and all the celebrations were staged.

You would be suprised at the nostalgia a lot of Soviet block people feel for the old times. Maybe some of them expected that just the fall of communism would solve all their problems.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Ornery
My wife's boss let her come home early today, for no good reason, other than she was a little tired. We sat down and watched the news just in time to see our troops replace the thin rope with a heavy chain around the statue's neck. Watched the Iraqis throwing shoes at it, stomp on it and finally ride the head around the square. They mentioned that the BBC was covering an Earthquake in China, rather than the statue toppling.

Well, I'll never forget the moment. It was a once in a lifetime event!

What's sad is that in you will state that it was those like you how are so single minded that you won't ever admit that it was a cross section of Americans who supported this Military Action , Republican, Democrat and Independants.

 

[UltraQuiet]

There was no vaccuum for the Berlin wall to fall into like there is with the ousting of Saddam and company. There was no need to replace the infrastructure, no need to develop a goverment from scratch, etc. What fills the vaccuum in Iraq is the concern not the fact that it was created.

 

[Ornery]

"...a cross section of Americans who supported this Military Action"

The "cross section" is pathetically split along party lines. Pro-war Democrats are around, but RARE!

Edit: BTW, are there any protests scheduled for tomorrow? Any idea what the political "cross section" of protesters will look like?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Ornery
"...a cross section of Americans who supported this Military Action"

The "cross section" is pathetically split along party lines. Pro-war Democrats are around, but RARE!

Edit: BTW, are there any protests scheduled for tomorrow? Any idea what the political "cross section" of protesters will look like?

Maybe you need to have your political Myopia checked out because there is a cross section of Americans who support this action, not that a whiny buck passer like you would notice.

 

[UltraQuiet]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Ornery
"...a cross section of Americans who supported this Military Action"

The "cross section" is pathetically split along party lines. Pro-war Democrats are around, but RARE!

Edit: BTW, are there any protests scheduled for tomorrow? Any idea what the political "cross section" of protesters will look like?

Maybe you need to have your political Myopia checked out because there is a cross section of Americans who support this action, not that a whiny buck passer like you would notice.

Gallup

We probably need to define "cross section".

 

[Ornery]

I didn't think we'd need to define or prove anything. It's pretty flippin' obvious!

 

[Red Dawn]

53 to 45 in favor

 

[Ultima]

Really, how many people fit under one party anyways??

For example, I think the drug black market should be cut down by legalizing drugs (reducing street crime and other problems) with controls, that it's stupid for you guys to not be able to drink until 21, I think what goes on in a bedroom has nothing to do with the state, that church should have nothing to do with the state, prostitution should probably be legalized with controls, but I also think there should be much less or no welfare and less government intervention, more of a free-market as opposed to less. I'm opposed to many kinds of subsidies. I believe in the death penalty and personal responsibility. And guess what, I support the war on Iraq for the most part.

So.. what the hell would I go under? I would think conservative but aren't they also the type that go "oh my god!! My kid saw a breast!! aieieee nooooooo!!"

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Ornery
I didn't think we'd need to define or prove anything. It's pretty flippin' obvious!

The only thing that's obvious to me is that you won't be happy until you see Americans turn on each other. Derisive influences like you are more dangerous to American society than a million Bin Ladens.

 

[Ornery]

Well, I ain't gonna call the whiners liberal, because I'm liberal! Let me put it this way. All the people whining about going into Iraq, and wringing their hands today will be Democrats. That poll Dave so kindly linked to was made March 28th. If that same poll had been taken on March 1st, it would have been even more lop-sided.

Our country IS divided and it ain't my doing. I vote for the party that supports the same issues I do. Putting the squeeze on Saddam wasn't one of the issues of the last election, but I sure as hell was behind it when it was brought to the table. Look who has been against it from the start. NOT Republicans!

No matter what progress our troops make, the Democrats on this forum will nitpick the slightest flaw. To be whining about that crap on a day like this is pathetic.