Did Biden just do something that requires him to be removed from office?

[fskimospy]

Sorry, I base my arguments on historical documents and reading. I have absolutely no regard or patience for conspiracy theorists, holocaust deniers and the like - never have. I just don't rely on emotional responses whenever some crackpot goes out and shoots up a school or other venue. I find the extremists who go out and shoot things up just as difficult to understand as I do the extremists who immediately have an emotional knee-jerk reaction on the other side. Emotions won't solve this.

I agree that emotions won’t solve this. Here’s my question - every other developed country HAS solved this, why do you think the US hasn’t?

 

[Muse]

Sorry, I base my arguments on historical documents and reading. I have absolutely no regard or patience for conspiracy theorists, holocaust deniers and the like - never have. I just don't rely on emotional responses whenever some crackpot goes out and shoots up a school or other venue. I find the extremists who go out and shoot things up just as difficult to understand as I do the extremists who immediately have an emotional knee-jerk reaction on the other side. Emotions won't solve this.

They are not hard to understand. You just don't have the imagination to understand them, or you suppress it. Guns are more than anything else the tools that enable these emotionally injured and desperate people to develop and act out their heinous fantasies.

Nothing gets done without emotions. Are you a rock?

 

[Brainonska511]

Hmm. I've read that there were HUNDREDS of instances of kids as young as 12 signing up to serve in state militias during the revolutionary war. Allowing them to sign up, carry weapons and fight certainly means that some of them got killed because of it, and likely some by friendly fire, too.

1) Serve in doesn't always mean "carried arms" or fought on the firing line
2) Historic child soldiers isn't the great zinger in support of less gun regulation you think it might be
3) Laws and the constitution are not stone tablets. We might consult old documents to understand contemporary perspectives on some specific issues, but they should not be the be all end all of how we live today. The present is for the living.

 

[uclaLabrat]

Sorry, I base my arguments on historical documents and reading. I have absolutely no regard or patience for conspiracy theorists, holocaust deniers and the like - never have. I just don't rely on emotional responses whenever some crackpot goes out and shoots up a school or other venue. I find the extremists who go out and shoot things up just as difficult to understand as I do the extremists who immediately have an emotional knee-jerk reaction on the other side. Emotions won't solve this.

You literally just highlighted a "well regulated militia" in your example. The kid (if your example even exists) had structure, a commanding officer, rules and discipline. The clownshow we have now has none of what is proscribed in the constitution.

 

[fskimospy]

You literally just highlighted a "well regulated militia" in your example. The kid (if your example even exists) had structure, a commanding officer, rules and discipline. The clownshow we have now has none of what is proscribed in the constitution.

Also can we stop our tradition of ‘governance by Ouija board’ where we base our laws today on what we think people who died 200 years ago would think?

 

[uclaLabrat]

That would obviously be the best option, just wanted to highlight how even when using the ouija board basline, theyre still incosistently applying the logic outlined by said ouija board 🤣

 

[ivwshane]

That would obviously be the best option, just wanted to highlight how even when using the ouija board basline, theyre still incosistently applying the logic outlined by said ouija board 🤣

There’s no ouija boarding about it, the 2nd is pretty clear what the purpose of it was. How it was interpreted into what it is now is the only thing that doesn’t make sense but righty logic has never made sense so…

 

[pauldun170]

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Simple fuckers ignore half the fucking sentence and the whole historical context.
The amendment was added because anti federalists wanted to insure that state militias could have equal footing against the Federal standard army due to paranoia over all the bullshit they experienced with other types of government (monarchies)....
A well regulated Militia refers to a State militia.
A bunch of diabetic idiots dressed up in tactical Walmart gear jerking off to their ar-15's on a camping trip is not a fucking state militia. State National Guard come closest to the modern equivalent.

Oh and surprise motherfuckers....check the wording of the amendment. Notice it does not say citizen? It's say "People". So all those "illegals" you fuckers like to complain about are also covered by the same amendment. Constitution is crystal clear on the "Citizen" vs "Person" vs "People" (watch the Dodge Ram pickup crowd go cross eyed when you mention that)

Why does the amendment say people instead of citizens?

The Constitution as originally adopted assumes that there is citizenship of the United States, and of the States, but does not explicitly provide a rule that tells whether anyone is a citizen of either (other than by giving Congress the power to naturalize).

Since it cannot delve into state citizenship because of anti federalists bullshit so the framers left it as "People".

2nd amendment is completely about the ability of the states to create their own little armed forces because the anti federalists wanted states to have the ability to push back against the Fed incase the fed turned into another monarchy-ish bag of dicks.

The current interpretations being bandied about are the direct result of the NRA turning batshit insane in the 1970s, coincidently along the same time that Republican party went batshit insane...coincidently in the aftermath of the civil rights act.

The Judges interpreting the second amendment with a fucked half assed view of it also tend to be assholes cherry picked by the federalist society. An organization that exist in reaction to the civil rights act.

The amendment has been interpreted loosely over the years and for the most part judges have played it safe as we as a culture place trust in the people to work together as a society where people aren't dicks. It helps when you read the entire fucking Amendment.

The right thing to do is amend the constitution to reduce the ambiguity or eliminate altogether. Militia became the National Guard and the concept of state militia ended when control of the National Guard came under joint control between State and Fed.

Too bad United States as a Society is fucking murder cult.

 

[nakedfrog]

Sorry, I base my arguments on historical documents and reading. I have absolutely no regard or patience for conspiracy theorists, holocaust deniers and the like - never have. I just don't rely on emotional responses whenever some crackpot goes out and shoots up a school or other venue. I find the extremists who go out and shoot things up just as difficult to understand as I do the extremists who immediately have an emotional knee-jerk reaction on the other side. Emotions won't solve this.

Damn shame you can't base your arguments on logic and reason instead.

 

[MrSquished]

Hmm. I've read that there were HUNDREDS of instances of kids as young as 12 signing up to serve in state militias during the revolutionary war. Allowing them to sign up, carry weapons and fight certainly means that some of them got killed because of it, and likely some by friendly fire, too.

Bro you are one twisted mofo. Like get therapy.