Did anyone read THG article on 64bit computing?

[Keysplayr]

OMFG do they trash AMD. Check it out, I read it with my jaw dropped.

Linky

 

[septiroth]

lol...we posted at the same time

 

[Flyermax2k3]

THG is the joke of the intarweb. I fvcking hate that site. I haven't gone to that site in years without having been directed there to read articles like this.
I can't believe people even willingly visit THG anymore. Just stop going there and maybe they'll eventually disappear. One can hope anyway, right?
Oh yeah, I think I forgot to mention: THG IS TEH SUCK!!!!!!!1111oneone
Edit: btw, it's not an article, it's an editorial

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
OMFG do they trash AMD. Check it out, I read it with my jaw dropped.

Linky

They got ya It was posted specifically for it's shock value and to increase site traffic and have their name generate buzz on other boards, which it's doing "any publicity is good publicity". How much of what Omid babbles about is accurate is of course highly debatable, but Intel is definitely throwing a wrench into AMD's attempts to penetrate the corporate market. It remains to be seen if the Nocona/Potomac are able to offer the performance Opteron does,so if they turn out to be more of an attempt to steal AMD's thunder than highly competitive parts, AMD will still be able to gain momentum. While possible it's not probable though, as Intel invests heavily in their R&D and manufacturing technologies, and isn't likely to have been caught napping on this.

 

[McArra]

Embarrasing article.

 

[Jeff7181]

This just shows how little THG cares about actual tech news and facts. They'd rather write editorials over there... so be it... that's one reason I don't visit their site. It's filled with opinions unsupported by facts, or it's "supported" by skewed test results and bastardized views of what is really going on.
I bet their advertisers are loving it though

 

[Duvie]

I have always said I don't care for his conclusions even when looking at the same data they are....That being said I still think they are a good site to see cpu reviews in terms of data cause he uses same test for quite some time and goes beyond the heavy gaming review of this site....Just readers should be aware of his test setups to make sure when they see an opposite review at another site. Same can be said for pro AMD sites like AMDzone and AMDMB forums.....

Unless it has some empirical numbers I wont read stuff from that site as I think someone over there needs his head checked.....

 

[NFactor]

That article was ignorant. I would hope that any Intel fanboy would have more brains than to write that load of sh*t.

 

[Haden]

They better stop, one can't get more biased than that.

 

[Keysplayr]

What is a load of s**t exactly? His opinions? His opinions are exactly that. His opinions.. While you can roast a marshmallow holding it over that article, only one statement that he made had a kind of half truth to it. This, I can picture being on the cusp of every AMD enthusiasts lips right about now:

"Hah! We are proven right! Intel is copying our beloved god of impecuniosities. Intel has succumbed. Intel admits we are superior. We are right. We have always been right. We is winners. We will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!"

Sure he may have worded it like crap, but it has got to have some truth to it all of us have to admit. Because on the surface, it appears that intel has to now imitate AMD instead of the other way around. Most AMD users seem to feel that intel is this big dumb lummox that cant see their own hand in front of their face. Believe it when I say thats not true and theres something else going on at a sub-surface level. Just like the THG dude, everyone has their own opinion and you can b!tch and moan about it all you want. Still wont change a persons opinion. Free will is a wonderful thing. I wouldn't give the article any more mind than you have to. We will just have to wait and see as usual.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
What is a load of s**t exactly? His opinions? His opinions are exactly that. His opinions.. While you can roast a marshmallow holding it over that article, only one statement that he made had a kind of half truth to it. This, I can picture being on the cusp of every AMD enthusiasts lips right about now:

"Hah! We are proven right! Intel is copying our beloved god of impecuniosities. Intel has succumbed. Intel admits we are superior. We are right. We have always been right. We is winners. We will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!"

Sure he may have worded it like crap, but it has got to have some truth to it all of us have to admit. Because on the surface, it appears that intel has to now imitate AMD instead of the other way around. Most AMD users seem to feel that intel is this big dumb lummox that cant see their own hand in front of their face. Believe it when I say thats not true and theres something else going on at a sub-surface level. Just like the THG dude, everyone has their own opinion and you can b!tch and moan about it all you want. Still wont change a persons opinion. Free will is a wonderful thing. I wouldn't give the article any more mind than you have to. We will just have to wait and see as usual.

If any self-respecting AMD user said that it would be quite clear they are a zealot and that they truly are not interested in hardware persay...This isn't a competition of teams...I Use INtel cause at thi moment it is better for me...Don't think one second I wont switch to 64bits and A64 if I feel it is much better for me to do so.....We got enough knuckle-head AMD fans here who spread FUD and INtel id Evil crap!!!



I don't think AMD is stupid at all when it comes to hardware...they are stupid cause they failed to advertise with this 64bit breakthrough and beat Intel at its own game of faster and bigger is better...Good old consumers would have bought 64bit is much better then 32bit in a heart beat...Yet they don't promote it and is why they gain no significant marketshare, may look as if they did all the real research and work with no big benefit (royalties) back to them, and financially struggle a bit more then the monster of INtel that spends millions of more in advertisment alone....

 

[Jeff7181]

they are stupid cause they failed to advertise with this 64bit breakthrough and beat Intel at its own game of faster and bigger is better...Good old consumers would have bought 64bit is much better then 32bit in a heart beat

I don't necessarily agree with that... while AMD might not be personally doing the advertising, one of the favorite things of Intel fans to say is that the increase in performance is not due to 64-bit vs. 32-bit, it's due to the increased number of registers available in 64-bit mode (at the moment). Imagine how quick people would be to point that out if AMD actually was saying "64-bit is inherently faster than 32-bit.
My view is, the Athlon-64 offers superior 32-bit performance when compared to the Athlon XP, and is arguable a better performer than the Pentium 4 at current speeds. If AMD can offer superior 32-bit performance AND 64-bit computing... why not do it? Only the most stubborn and ignorant people would argue that 64-bit computing will NEVER be needed on the home desktop because software only will become more advanced as time goes by. Why not make the change a gradual one instead of "ok, hand in your PC's and all your old software, the new processor is 64-bit... look at all this new software we have for it!"
32-bit computing will be phased out, and by the time 64-bit computing is necessary we'll already have the hardware to do it, and developers will already be familiar with the advantages of 64-bit computing and be able to extract the best performance from the hardware.

 

[LemonHerbWRX]

The guy has some points, and did make some correct statements. However he did it in such a way to almost invalidate any semblance of intelligence within the argument by sounding more biased then a French ice skating judge (no offence to any French people intended). Of course I suppose that is what that sort of article is about, he obviously wasn't on a quest to be taken seriously.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: LemonHerbWRX
The guy has some points, and did make some correct statements. However he did it in such a way to almost invalidate any semblance of intelligence within the argument by sounding more biased then a French ice skating judge (no offence to any French people intended). Of course I suppose that is what that sort of article is about, he obviously wasn't on a quest to be taken seriously.

Unfortunately his dumbass comments reflect badly on the whole THG website, not just that idiotic author.

 

[LemonHerbWRX]

This is true and rightly so. He may have wrote it but it was published there, and I am sure they had every opportunity to not post it. So I don't feel bad for THG.

 

[Sid59]

Originally posted by: LemonHerbWRX
The guy has some points, and did make some correct statements. However he did it in such a way to almost invalidate any semblance of intelligence within the argument by sounding more biased then a French ice skating judge (no offence to any French people intended). Of course I suppose that is what that sort of article is about, he obviously wasn't on a quest to be taken seriously.

which points did you find correct?

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

they are stupid cause they failed to advertise with this 64bit breakthrough and beat Intel at its own game of faster and bigger is better...Good old consumers would have bought 64bit is much better then 32bit in a heart beat

I don't necessarily agree with that... while AMD might not be personally doing the advertising, one of the favorite things of Intel fans to say is that the increase in performance is not due to 64-bit vs. 32-bit, it's due to the increased number of registers available in 64-bit mode (at the moment). Imagine how quick people would be to point that out if AMD actually was saying "64-bit is inherently faster than 32-bit.
My view is, the Athlon-64 offers superior 32-bit performance when compared to the Athlon XP, and is arguable a better performer than the Pentium 4 at current speeds. If AMD can offer superior 32-bit performance AND 64-bit computing... why not do it? Only the most stubborn and ignorant people would argue that 64-bit computing will NEVER be needed on the home desktop because software only will become more advanced as time goes by. Why not make the change a gradual one instead of "ok, hand in your PC's and all your old software, the new processor is 64-bit... look at all this new software we have for it!"
32-bit computing will be phased out, and by the time 64-bit computing is necessary we'll already have the hardware to do it, and developers will already be familiar with the advantages of 64-bit computing and be able to extract the best performance from the hardware.

Again good points but you are PREACHING TO THE CHOIR!!! It is the rest of the average joes and intel users of the past...You know that 80% that amd and mac doesn't have.... You need to tell them you are better then p4 in 32bit applications but can give them longevity with 64bit compatability....That is where AMD is STUPID for their marketing and advertisement. They are destinied to never amount to anything if they can't get their story out. It is pretty sad you ppl can't see this.

I preached this back when i had my first Tbird and when it was still kicking the crap out of a willamette chip 300-400 mhz more....Nothing has changed and hence all these years and successful product lines along with quarter losses and their marketshare has barely moved...Just sad!!!