Dick Morris predictions on the Obama Presidency

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I thought this would be a good article to put up for some predictions, since Mr. Morris makes many very specific predictions about what Obama can do. Now I've been told that he's the "gilded President. Everything he touches will turn to gold. Look for near universal appraise on the actions during his first 100 days from both the media and the voters." But I'm a bit more skeptical on that.

While I do congratulate him and wish him well, I prefer to speak to specific issues rather than the man, just as I did about Bush.

So here's the article, I bolded what I considered "measurable" predictions:

He will begin by passing alternative-energy sources to school renovations, infrastructure repairs and technology enhancements. Obama will do them all rather quickly.


He will create a permanent electoral majority that does not pay taxes, but counts on ever-expanding welfare checks from the government. The dependency on the dole, formerly limited in pre-Clinton days to 14 million women and children on Aid to Families with Dependent Children, will now grow to a clear majority of the American population.

Obama will raise spending and increase the deficit so that conservatives cannot cut taxes. And, when the economy is restored, he will raise taxes with impunity.

In the name of stabilizing the banking system, Obama will nationalize it. Using Troubled Asset Relief Program funds to write generous checks to needy financial institutions, his administration will demand preferred stock in exchange

Obama will limit executive compensation
Then he will urge restructuring and lowering of home mortgages in danger of default
Then will come guidance on the loans to make and government instructions on the types of enterprises to favor.

Government will imposes ever more Draconian price controls and income limits on doctors, the supply of practitioners and equipment will decline as the demand escalates.
Price increases will be out of the question, so the government will impose healthcare rationing, denying the older and sicker among us the care they need and even barring them from paying for it themselves

He will move quickly to legalize all those who have been in America for five years.
He will weaken border controls in an attempt to hike the Latino vote as high as he can in order to make red states like Texas into blue states like California. By the time he is finished, Latinos and African-Americans will cast a combined 30 percent of the vote

And he will enact the check-off card system for determining labor union representation, repealing the secret ballot in union elections. The result will be to raise the proportion of the labor force in unions up to the high teens from the current level of about 12 percent.

Finally, he will use the expansive powers of the Federal Communications Commission to impose ?local? control and ownership of radio stations and to impose the ?fairness doctrine? on talk radio. The effect will be to drive talk radio to the Internet, fundamentally change its economics, and retard its growth for years hence.


the large stimulus package deficits will likely lead to rapid inflation, probably necessitating a second recession to cure it.

The Republican Party will make big gains and regain much of its lost power.

Edit: I clipped out most of the article down to just the predictions Dick Morris makes, and took out some of his language not related to the prediction. I also edited the title of the thread (which was the title of the article) as it was drawing out the trolls like a steaming turd draws flies.
 

fskimospy

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Holy paranoia batman!

I'm not sure what website you got this from, but you should probably stop reading it immediately. It appears to have become completely unhinged from reality.

I'm not going to go into all the crazy in that article, but as a quick example it states that Obama is going to go impose the 'fairness doctrine'. I've seen people mention that retarded shit on this website dozens of times, I've heard about it from Rush Limbaugh and morons like Michael Savage over and over again.

OBAMA OPPOSES THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE YOU MORONS.
 

retrospooty

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Originally posted by: alchemize


So Obama?s name will be mud by 2012 and probably by 2010 as well. And the Republican Party will make big gains and regain much of its lost power.

But it will be too late to reverse the socialism of much of the economy, the demographic change in the electorate, the rationing of healthcare by the government, the surge of unionization and the crippling of talk radio.
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Your beyond rediculous... Your paranoid, delusional post doesn't even deserve a full explanation of how totally wrong you are. I hope Obama gives your job to a gay, black, socialist, racist , midget.
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: alchemize


So Obama?s name will be mud by 2012 and probably by 2010 as well. And the Republican Party will make big gains and regain much of its lost power.

But it will be too late to reverse the socialism of much of the economy, the demographic change in the electorate, the rationing of healthcare by the government, the surge of unionization and the crippling of talk radio.

Your beyond rediculous... Your paranoid, delusional post doesn't even deserve a full explanation of how totally wrong you are. I hope Obama gives your job to a gay, black, socialist, racist , midget.[/quote]

That runs away with his wife?
 

imported_K3N

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Obama is not a socialist. A socialist would be in favor of freezing foreclosures, providing subsidies for families to heat their homes, support in bailing the common people. Obama is a wall street fascist who will drive down the standards of living savagely by continuing to give handouts to the financiers only.

1st 100 days of Obama will indeed be as exciting as Jimmy Carter's.
 

jonks

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the fairness doctrine? again?? christ, it's just a list of righty fearmongering. Predictions? more like Dicky woke up from a nightmare and started scribbling. Obama's gonna grant citizenship to anyone living in the country for 5 years? Put down the glue, you been sniffing too much Dick.

And in an "attacking the messenger" effort, everyone should recall that Dick Morris was adiosed from the Bill Clinton team after allowing a hooker he regularly banged to listen in on one of his calls with the President. An upstanding gentleman is he.
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: K3N
Obama is not a socialist. A socialist would be in favor of freezing foreclosures, providing subsidies for families to heat their homes, support in bailing the common people. Obama is a wall street fascist who will drive down the standards of living savagely by continuing to give handouts to the financiers only.

1st 100 days of Obama will indeed be as exciting as Jimmy Carter's.

We will be wishing for the good old days of Jimmy Carter.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: K3N
Obama is not a socialist. A socialist would be in favor of freezing foreclosures, providing subsidies for families to heat their homes, support in bailing the common people. Obama is a wall street fascist who will drive down the standards of living savagely by continuing to give handouts to the financiers only.

1st 100 days of Obama will indeed be as exciting as Jimmy Carter's.

We will be wishing for the good old days of Jimmy Carter.

When you had all 4 wheels on your trailer?
 

bamacre

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Dick Morris? Please. I wouldn't even bother wasting my time reading anything this guy wrote.
 

Xavier434

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At this point I have heard so much cynical skepticism and speculations without a whole lot of justification that I don't even listen to it anymore. It is tiresome and a waste of time at this point imo. My answer now that the election is over is to just cross these bridges as we get to them. I don't see what else we can really do other than that which is actually productive post election.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: alchemize


So Obama?s name will be mud by 2012 and probably by 2010 as well. And the Republican Party will make big gains and regain much of its lost power.

But it will be too late to reverse the socialism of much of the economy, the demographic change in the electorate, the rationing of healthcare by the government, the surge of unionization and the crippling of talk radio.

Your beyond rediculous... Your paranoid, delusional post doesn't even deserve a full explanation of how totally wrong you are. I hope Obama gives your job to a gay, black, socialist, racist , midget.


I feel a ban coming on with this one very soon.....
 

MovingTarget

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Wow. I'm surprised that one could fit so much F U D into a single op/ed piece. This idiot does not know what socialism is. However, he seems to have no problem supporting the type of fascist policies that many of the neocons did. "Regain their lost power"....he almost sounds like they deserved it. F that author and the horse he rode in on.

Fairness doctrine on Talk Radio! Socialism! Price Controls! UHC! Gay Pink Commie Unicorns! Oh my!

Nothing to back any of it up....
 

retrospooty

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: alchemize


So Obama?s name will be mud by 2012 and probably by 2010 as well. And the Republican Party will make big gains and regain much of its lost power.

But it will be too late to reverse the socialism of much of the economy, the demographic change in the electorate, the rationing of healthcare by the government, the surge of unionization and the crippling of talk radio.

Your beyond rediculous... Your paranoid, delusional post doesn't even deserve a full explanation of how totally wrong you are. I hope Obama gives your job to a gay, black, socialist, racist , midget.


I feel a ban coming on with this one very soon.....

OK... Its not like I have been here since 2002, and you got here in... Oh look, last March. I am quite sure the mods are able to distinguish the intention of the joke in that comment, unlike yourself.
 

retrospooty

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I prefer Glenn Beck's rediculous rant myself. He insists that Obama will enslave us all. =)
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: alchemize


So Obama?s name will be mud by 2012 and probably by 2010 as well. And the Republican Party will make big gains and regain much of its lost power.

But it will be too late to reverse the socialism of much of the economy, the demographic change in the electorate, the rationing of healthcare by the government, the surge of unionization and the crippling of talk radio.

Your beyond rediculous... Your paranoid, delusional post doesn't even deserve a full explanation of how totally wrong you are. I hope Obama gives your job to a gay, black, socialist, racist , midget.


I feel a ban coming on with this one very soon.....

Don't know what you are feeling but you should see a Dr about it.

 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: K3N
Obama is not a socialist. A socialist would be in favor of freezing foreclosures, providing subsidies for families to heat their homes, support in bailing the common people. Obama is a wall street fascist who will drive down the standards of living savagely by continuing to give handouts to the financiers only.

1st 100 days of Obama will indeed be as exciting as Jimmy Carter's.

We will be wishing for the good old days of Jimmy Carter.

When you had all 4 wheels on your trailer?

Little lady, I'm not sure what you mean by that?

 

retrospooty

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: K3N
Obama is not a socialist. A socialist would be in favor of freezing foreclosures, providing subsidies for families to heat their homes, support in bailing the common people. Obama is a wall street fascist who will drive down the standards of living savagely by continuing to give handouts to the financiers only.

1st 100 days of Obama will indeed be as exciting as Jimmy Carter's.

We will be wishing for the good old days of Jimmy Carter.

When you had all 4 wheels on your trailer?

Little lady, I'm not sure what you mean by that?

I cant say for sure, only Jonks would know that, but I do believe you are being called a hick. =)
 

Fern

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Please don't quote the whole post, it's too long

Come on guys,

This from Dick Morris, not some blogger etc.

Let's look at his concerns:

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He will begin by passing every program for which liberals have lusted for decades, from alternative-energy sources to school renovations, infrastructure repairs and technology enhancements. These are all good programs, but they normally would be stretched out for years. But freed of any constraint on the deficit ? indeed, empowered by a mandate to raise it as high as possible ? Obama will do them all rather quickly.

^ That's not "paranoia" or "anti Christ" stuff by any means. Aren't we expecting this? Aren't many here, in fact, arguing for it? Aren't we seeing a pretty big disregard for national debt under the banner of 'economic recovery'?

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he will create a permanent electoral majority that does not pay taxes, but counts on ever-expanding welfare checks from the government. The dependency on the dole, formerly limited in pre-Clinton days to 14 million women and children on Aid to Families with Dependent Children, will now grow to a clear majority of the American population.

^ This is a fairly mainstream concern about reducing the percentage that pays taxes, while simultaneously increasing those who receive government support. It's not as though this concern/theory lacks any common sense. That dynamic can certainly be expected to motivate the non-taxpaying, yet gov benefit receiving, voter in some predictable ways. And once critical mass in reached in terms of voter %'s those favoring a different policy will have a major uphill battle getting support for changes.

Imagine trying to get elected on a platform of reducing gov (benefits). This is similar to concerns about the number of people employed in government, now about 50% (when state/local/federal are aggregated). How many Governors have successfully run on a platform of reducing state/local gov and the number of employees?

It's also another use of the class warfare divide and conquor tactics that have been used by the fed gov for decades (it was employed to enact the 16th Amendment - promises that only a few hyper wealthy would ever face income taxation etc).

3.

Obama will follow the opposite of the Reagan strategy. Reagan cut taxes and increased the deficit so that liberals could not increase spending. Obama will raise spending and increase the deficit so that conservatives cannot cut taxes. And, when the economy is restored, he will raise taxes with impunity, since the only people who will have to pay them would be rich Republicans.

^ Whether by design or coincidence, we look to be on this path now. Given the debt from Iraq, dumping another $2 trillion (not sure of the mount, I've lost track) may result in this dynamic (the 'anti-Reagan' type plan). I see nothing crazy here either.

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In the name of stabilizing the banking system, Obama will nationalize it. Using Troubled Asset Relief Program funds to write generous checks to needy financial institutions, his administration will demand preferred stock in exchange. Preferred stock gets dividends before common stockholders do. With the massive debt these companies will owe to the government, they will only be able to afford dividends for preferred stockholders ? the government, not private investors. So who will buy common stock? And the government will demand that its bills be paid before any profits that might materialize are reinvested in the financial institution, so how will the value of the stocks ever grow? Devoid of private investors, these institutions will fall ever more under government control.

I thougt we were already doing this (gov purchase of preferred stock)? And he is correct in his assertion that preferred stockholders must be paid before common stockholders. It remains to be seen what impact this will have on common stock prices, and it's ability to pay dividends (much of those dividends are used to fund retirement/pension plans). AFAIK, this hasn't been done previously in the USA so it's difficult to forecast all the ramifications. But as a financial professional I believe his concern has merit and is a plausible problem.

5. Health care

The people and equipment that now serve 250 million Americans and largely neglect all but the emergency needs of the other 50 million will now have to serve everyone

I don't see how there is any question that a UHC systems that injects so many more people cannot help but to overwhelm the current system/infrastructure. Will "rationing" result? Well, seems it does elsewhere (e.g., Canada). I see nothing 'paranoid' here.

6. Immigration?

He will move quickly to legalize all those who have been in America for five years, albeit illegally, and to smooth their paths to citizenship and voting.

We've done that before. It's already recently attempted. I'll be surprised it we don't see another attempt at similar legislation in the next 4 years.

7. Unions

And he will enact the check-off card system for determining labor union representation, repealing the secret ballot in union elections

Same as above.

8. ?Fairness Doctrine?

The Dem leadership and prominent Congresspersons are already publicly for this. Obama against it? Maybe, maybe not. This wouldn't be his first change on a stance. No matter, he may have to go along with it to get some other of his proposals passed.

9. Rapid Inflation?

Aren't most already predictng this?

It is fact that these are all issues now. The outcome that Morris predicts are, well, predictions. But none seem paranoid or implausible.

I bet we see some, if not most, of these occur; I think the real question is to what extent.

Cliffs: See above sentance.


Fern
 

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Socialists would be offended if they thought a few neocons really believed Obama was a socialist. He'd be an entirely different person if he were a socialist, as in total welfare, no private industry, and basically no checks and balances.
 

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^ Fern, that's just a sad response. Reagan raised taxes and spending, Morris is out to lunch with his analysis because it isn't actually based in reality (is this really Dick Morris btw, because if so it's pretty pathetic). And as a financial professional, you know damn well the banking system won't be nationalized, we have many banks that don't need bailouts and many of the big are already locked into long-term loans. Why would Obama suddenly change all that, he's no economist. It's just asinine to think he's going to entirely nationalize the banking system, and any such extreme scenario would be temporary in the first place (much like nationalizing the railroads during WWII).

Also, what part of stimulus package to jumpstart confidence in the economy can be construed as a socialist guise to raise the national debt when the overwhelming consensus among economists is that a package is necessary in the first place? Bush supported these same plans and raised national debt into the trillion territory for the first time in history last year. Bush was no socialist by any stretch. Fairness doctrine "support" has been debunked again, and again, and again. It's not going to happen in its previously proposed form, get over that paranoia when the reality says Fairness Doctrine hasn't actually happened, oh and of course the clamoring for it to happen is virtually nil (though I'd love see examples).