Dick Cheney poll

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: RichardE
The media got payed off to make big on this rather than real issues.

Bullsh8! As piss poorly qualified as he is for the job, Cheyney is the Vice President of the U.S. As such, his involvement in a hunting accident that injured someone is news, period. If Cheney had just stepped up and announced his involvement and concern for the guy he injured, it would have blown over in a couple of hours.

Cheney's the one who made this a big story by trying to manipulate the news. Regardless of his motives or whether it was just an accident, his actions just add to the already huge pile of examples of how this administration prefers to lie and fabricate stories about anything, rather than just living with the truth in real time.

< Jack Nicholson voice >

You want truth? You can't handle the truth! :roll:

< /Jack Nicholson voice >

 

[OrByte]

so where are the stories about Cheney granting himself the power to declassify information!?

That is more important than anything else this whole shooting debacle brought up.

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: Frackal

Originally posted by: Dissipate

That they have spent any time at all on this rather non-story story is just sad.

How is it a non-story? It truly reveals the incompetence of this administration.

LOL, give me a break

O.K, Hey everybody, Frackal can't see any signs of incompetence in the Bush regime, so let's all give him a break, poor dope.

 

[zephyrprime]

Originally posted by: RichardE
The media got payed off to make big on this rather than real issues.

Are you kidding me? The media loves stories like this. Stories that matter are boring. Stories that involve guns are fun!

 

[phantom309]

Can't stand the guy or the regime, but it was an accident, nothing more. I don't know how it could NOT be made into a huge media event, though. The Vice President shot someone. If that's not news, I don't know what is.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: RichardE
The media got payed off to make big on this rather than real issues.

:thumbsup:

 

[misle]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: RichardE
The media got payed off to make big on this rather than real issues.

Bullsh8! As piss poorly qualified as he is for the job, Cheyney is the Vice President of the U.S. As such, his involvement in a hunting accident that injured someone is news, period. If Cheney had just stepped up and announced his involvement and concern for the guy he injured, it would have blown over in a couple of hours.

Blown over in a couple hours? You really believe that? The VP accidentally shot someone. If he had just stepped up and announced his involvement and concern for the guy he injured, we would have had the exact same coverage, except it would have started 1 day earlier.

This is very much a non-story, aside from it being the VP. Does it really make a difference that he waited an entire *day* to announce it?

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Dissipate

That they have spent any time at all on this rather non-story story is just sad.

How is it a non-story? It truly reveals the incompetence of this administration.

I would say Iraq "truly reveals the incompetence of this administration." This was an accident, and Americans know it. The longer this story gets dragged out, the better for this admin.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: RichardE
The media got payed off to make big on this rather than real issues.

Bullsh8! As piss poorly qualified as he is for the job, Cheyney is the Vice President of the U.S. As such, his involvement in a hunting accident that injured someone is news, period. If Cheney had just stepped up and announced his involvement and concern for the guy he injured, it would have blown over in a couple of hours.

Cheney's the one who made this a big story by trying to manipulate the news. Regardless of his motives or whether it was just an accident, his actions just add to the already huge pile of examples of how this administration prefers to lie and fabricate stories about anything, rather than just living with the truth in real time.

< Jack Nicholson voice >

You want truth? You can't handle the truth! :roll:

< /Jack Nicholson voice >

Cheney's motive for hiding this for a day or two was to get the media and the Demcocrats to make a big deal about it.

The media and the democrats have a history of fighting the wrong battles at the wrong times.

Look at these boards, and the TV news, and I'd say, Cheney was successful. Everyone took it, hook, line, and sinker.

The bottom line is the average american joe, in the long run, won't give a rat's ass because it was an accident. Period. They don't care if it took a day or two for the story to let out. They don't care if Cheney wasn't following all the hunting safety guidlines, and whatnot. It was a mistake, they see it that way, and they don't care.

I don't know what is more scary, the intelligence behind Bush's admin (not necessarily Bush himself), or the total ignorance of the Democrats and the media.

 

[RightIsWrong]

So you think Cheney shoots a friend in the face and then realizes that, if he waits a day to break the story, it will give him some political relief? That would make him an even bigger Dick (pun intended).

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
So you think Cheney shoots a friend in the face and then realizes that, if he waits a day to break the story, it will give him some political relief? That would make him an even bigger Dick (pun intended).

Cheney is very intelligent man, and an excellent strategist politically. He knows damn well that he always has options in anything he does, and he weighs those options, you can bet your ass.

Think this is crazy? Well turn on the TV, and you'll see they are spending more time on this hunting accident than the entire Iraq war.

 

[shrumpage]

Did it ever occur that they didn't want the accident to become a media circus in till the wounded had been taken care, and families had been notified. I know myself if my dad was shot i don't want to find out about by some reporter calling me in the middle of the night just trying to get a scoop.

 

[Acanthus]

The media takes everything and runs. While im not suprised, its certainly the black eye of the news everyone criticizes.

Accidents happen, especially bird hunting. It is probably the most dangerous sport out there.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I always thought cribbage was the most dangerous. It is very easy for the media and the general population to look at the next shiny thing that passes by and completely forget the thing they were so intently focused on. I can't believe how little coverage the ILLEGAL wire tapping is getting.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
I always thought cribbage was the most dangerous. It is very easy for the media and the general population to look at the next shiny thing that passes by and completely forget the thing they were so intently focused on. I can't believe how little coverage the ILLEGAL wire tapping is getting.

Investigative journalists don't exist anymore. Sad but true. Their breed died out with the advent of multiple 24 hour news networks.

 

[monk3y]

The media is crazy even though I do think Cheney deserves all the grief he gets.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
So you think Cheney shoots a friend in the face and then realizes that, if he waits a day to break the story, it will give him some political relief? That would make him an even bigger Dick (pun intended).

Cheney is very intelligent man, and an excellent strategist politically. He knows damn well that he always has options in anything he does, and he weighs those options, you can bet your ass.

Think this is crazy? Well turn on the TV, and you'll see they are spending more time on this hunting accident than the entire Iraq war.

The media these days just seems to love stories that play off of emotions and have no real political repercussions attached to them. It's was all gravy for them. Still, it needed to be reported.

 

[azazyel]

golf clap for the 3rd option

 

[umbrella39]

Hunters get shot sometimes by their hunting partners. It happens.

 

[herkulease]

I think the media coverage of this is ridiculous.

It seems to me that they have nothing more to talk about. Its similar to the hours of coverage about some pretty looking missing person.

The day Vice President Cheney admitted fault okay I don't mind but I full expect this to go one for about another week or so of endless reports and hunting "experts" being interviewed here and there.

There are other stuff happening in politics they can talk about.

 

[johnnobts]

what sickens me is the sniping at brit hume of fox news, he's a respectable news anchor, and i read on drudge that one pundit said the interview with cheney was a bit like bonnie interviewing clyde... please. brit covered the whole story, and asked very insightful questions.

by the way, sorry that mr cheney didn't come to see you personally david gregory, you who call the press sec. a "jerk." the other media groups are just jealous for the scoops.

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: azazyel
golf clap for the 3rd option

lol ok I'll bite whats a golf clap?
Is that like a liberal game plan...ie it doesn't exist??

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: daniel49

Originally posted by: azazyel
golf clap for the 3rd option

lol ok I'll bite whats a golf clap?
Is that like a liberal game plan...ie it doesn't exist??

Wow, did you think that up all by yourself????
:roll:

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: johnnobts
what sickens me is the sniping at brit hume of fox news, he's a respectable news anchor, and i read on drudge that one pundit said the interview with cheney was a bit like bonnie interviewing clyde... please. brit covered the whole story, and asked very insightful questions.

by the way, sorry that mr cheney didn't come to see you personally david gregory, you who call the press sec. a "jerk." the other media groups are just jealous for the scoops.

I think that the right is confused about something. I think that there is this impression that the "media" is upset that Cheney didn't come to them first. I, personally, don't get that impression from the questions that I have heard.

My impression is that they are upset that Cheney, who if you recall happens to the second in command of our entire country, let a private citizen go to the press about this unfortunate accident 24 hours after it occurred instead of having an official press release immediately upon getting Mr. Whittington to the hospital.

I don't follow the school of thought that they are upset that they were scooped, I think that they are upset because they think his waiting shows some signs of trying to develop a cover story or waiting for the alcohol to get out of his system. Neither of which can be proven after that original window has closed. It was over 14 hours from the time of the shooting until the sheriff was able to interview him with a sheriff supposedly being turned away from interviewing him the day of the accident.

Great timeline/summary of the day and next morning

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: Pens1566

Originally posted by: daniel49

Originally posted by: azazyel
golf clap for the 3rd option

lol ok I'll bite whats a golf clap?
Is that like a liberal game plan...ie it doesn't exist??

Wow, did you think that up all by yourself????
:roll:

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