Diablo Immortal Discussion

aigomorla

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This is a discussion thread on the game.
Please give your feedback.
Please respect everyone's opinion.

Please also keep on topic to immortal and not get side tracked to Diablo 4, unless the topic pertains to it as a direct comparison.
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What i am dreading, immortal showing us what bliz/activision intends to do with the franchise with micro gambling transactions.
 

aigomorla

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Want to say on a different Post..
The Game BLEW up HDR to the max.
Its boardlerline almost unplayable.
It makes my eyes hurt staring at the screen.

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Cant turn HDR OFF either... WTF mang...

OMG.... im dying here cuz of the bloom + HDR.
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GodisanAtheist

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This is literally a mobile only game right? What is it doing in PC gaming.

This should not be interpreted as a mod callout.

Edit: OHHHHHHHHHHHHH its a F2P on mobile and PC.

Alright @aigomorla I'll allow you to keep this thread open :D
 

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Edit: OHHHHHHHHHHHHH its a F2P on mobile and PC.
yeah... and its a trainwreck IMO...
Trying to optimize for mobile screens and PC at the same time has to be almost the biggest no no.
But maybe i am doing this game wrong by trying to play it on a 3090 + Alienware AW38 monitor.
 
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Got to the first credit card checkpoint in 30min of actual gameplay....
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Not looking good....
 

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So with a lot of F2P mobile games, you can play for some limited time each day unless you spend money, making grinding nearly impossible. Does this game suffer the same issue? Or is the F2P aspect limited to skins and visual elements (Which really I am fine with), and the ability to rank up faster? Fast tracking ranks is kind of whatever unless manually grinding it purposely made so difficult that they basically corner gamers into buying ranks, which is a big no no in my book.

The HDR issue is a wow. Does nobody on their testing team having a decent computer with an HDR screen? Its not like they are rare these days. You should be able to disable HDR for that specific game in your GPUs driver settings.
 

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I haven't played it and have no intention to. The ARPG community that I've been watching, mostly Path of Exile players, say it's an unmitigated disaster. And that's not because of game play or franchise tribalism or anything it's almost completely centered around the monetization. To say that it's predatory seems to be an understatement.
 
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I haven't played it and have no intention to. The ARPG community that I've been watching, mostly Path of Exile players, say it's an unmitigated disaster. And that's not because of game play or franchise tribalism or anything it's almost completely centered around the monetization. To say that it's predatory seems to be an understatement.
Correct. I've seen enough videos about it, confirming every single thing people were worried about from the moment it was first revealed. We all knew where it was going, and it absolutely went there at the speed of light. Saying it's predatory does not even come remotely close to what it does. This "game" - for all intent and purposes - is purely and simply a gambling machine online. The fact that it's still only rated at 17+ M for violence and gore also shows that ESRB are still useless at actually rating games in the first place. And rating it at 17+ basically makes it legal for under-age buyers to gamble with real life money. It is despicable, there's no thousand ways to describe it.

On a side note: the actual term used, 'gambling' I think, should be revised due to the way it is implemented in the video gaming industry. It's a term lost in meaning at this point. Some say you NEED to have chances to gain nothing back to make something gambling. And some think that all you need for gambling is a 'hook', an addiction.

To ME, gambling in a video game is anything from one end of the spectrum to the other. This isn't a real life casino, it's a supposed "video game" where whatever form of "addiction" should ONLY be you loving the actual game and coming back to it because it's fun and you love it, that simple. As simple as being "addicted" to watching the same movie for the 100th time because it's that good. But in the case of Diablo Immortal (and so many others like it now) the "addiction" comes from mind trick manipulations and 100% greed from the designers of the game.

People need to understand that Psychologists (whom are supposed to normally HELP people in need when they're not mentally healthy) are actually hired in big companies like that in order to find all sorts of ways to exploit the consumers they're making products for, on purpose of course and it's not only legal; it's desired by them. That, to me, is already beyond predatory. It's pretty much inhuman, unethical and should be criminal and illegal.

So anyway, beyond the actual 'meaning' of the word gambling here, going on with my previous train of thought: there's no official mention that it contains gambling (from ESRB), which of course should be recognized as such - at the very least - by ESRB, as a fair warning (if anything). But in my mind, and having actually known a colleague at a previous job a few years back who came back from gambling addictions - and getting a better, clearer picture of what sort of disaster it can cause in people's lives - means that this "game" should plain and simply be illegal and immediately removed from the Blizzard launcher and entirely reworked and re-released (maybe) at a later date (or, preferably, never).

This is not a video game. It is a 'product' solely designed with the single purpose of sucking your wallet dry while manipulating your mind.

Avoid, at all costs.
 
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i'm watching Asmongold play this game. There is no "energy system" in the game, i.e. you can play as long as you want. Without "boosting" the raids and Rifts, your loot will be considerably worse. paying at early levels makes you OP and lets you breeze through the story quests. legendary Gem drops are guaranteed when boosting Rifts but only for 1-2 "stars" out of 5. to get 5-star items you need special currency which is both purchasable and grindable, but its not realistic to grind the amount required.
there are also daily and login rewards. If you buy a special monthly boost, you get more of them BUT only of you log in! you missed a day? your rewards are gone for that day along with your money.

From what i gathered, it is possible to play this game as a F2P player, but don't expect to make it to the end-game. maybe just do the story quest and quit.
 

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i'm watching Asmongold play this game. There is no "energy system" in the game, i.e. you can play as long as you want. Without "boosting" the raids and Rifts, your loot will be considerably worse. paying at early levels makes you OP and lets you breeze through the story quests. legendary Gem drops are guaranteed when boosting Rifts but only for 1-2 "stars" out of 5. to get 5-star items you need special currency which is both purchasable and grindable, but its not realistic to grind the amount required.
there are also daily and login rewards. If you buy a special monthly boost, you get more of them BUT only of you log in! you missed a day? your rewards are gone for that day along with your money.

From what i gathered, it is possible to play this game as a F2P player, but don't expect to make it to the end-game. maybe just do the story quest and quit.
Do you know if the story quest are "in cannon" with the rest of the series? That could be the only driving force I could see to play it.

Its good there is no energy system. But bad that they offset that by making the grinding way to grindy :( Also, the login boosters are terrible. Most of us have real lives, so days to get skipped.
 

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I haven't heard anything good about it, sucks that you cannot turn off HDR or anything in game. Maybe it is possible with drivers?
 

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I haven't heard anything good about it, sucks that you cannot turn off HDR or anything in game. Maybe it is possible with drivers?
The gameplay is decent for a mobile game. That is about it. IMO, the PC port was created to get streamers to play it as a way of advertising. Seems like they put almost no effort into it. The PC interface is terrible.
 

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I'll be staying far away from this one. I can't possibly enjoy a game like this knowing it has been monetized to hell and back (pun intended). I'd rather support a developer by paying for a full game upfront knowing their intended purpose for the game is to provide me with entertainment value. Not to develop in a way that's intended to make me open my wallet.
 
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I'm playing it on my ipad. It runs great and is quite enjoyable. Core gameplay is still Diablo. Yeah, the monetization is quite prominent, but you don't have to pay unless you really want to upgrade your character's items (especially gems) to the max. I'm level 40 and I haven't spent anything. I'm willing to spend ~$50 on this game if I feel it's worth it. I have no problem paying for good games.
 

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Current metacritic user score 0.5. It's nothing more than microtransaction masturbation on Blizzard's part.

Needs to be renamed to Diablo Immoral.


 

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I'm playing it on my ipad. It runs great and is quite enjoyable. Core gameplay is still Diablo. Yeah, the monetization is quite prominent, but you don't have to pay unless you really want to upgrade your character's items (especially gems) to the max. I'm level 40 and I haven't spent anything. I'm willing to spend ~$50 on this game if I feel it's worth it. I have no problem paying for good games.
-Doesn't matter. D:I lost the meme war before it even began. The quality of the actual experience is secondary now to the meme-lording.

Blizzard has become something of a punching bag for the 30+ crowd as it so starkly traces the trend of top notch small studio from the childhood "go corporate" and absolutely hollow out and sell it's soul.

I say this not really having a dog in this fight, haven't played DI nor was a particularly anticipating it.
 
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This is the first Diablo game that I have played, but I play Genshin Impact as well and only do f2p. I like the combat, and find the game fun, but feel bad for folks who really get into gaming and building characters.

I would say give it a shot, and play for fun, but if you find yourself getting frustrated then might be time to quit. It seems like the reddit folks have found lots of soft caps which keep f2p players from being really competitive. EchoHawk does a few videos about it.

Honestly from my one game only view it's fun, but like I said this is the first Diablo game I have played. I almost did not play this due to battle net and being somewhat a walled garden but battle net allows a google log in so no new logins. At first I was trying to get it to work on an Odroid c4 device. So thought what the heck when it did not work just right on Android installed the pc client.

On the Odroid device would not even load the .apk package had to get an .apk downloader, then it installed but was trying to phone home as I had no idea of the battle net requirement. the device doesn't even have a google play installed I want it like that.

This might make me buy other Diablo games but I am a low spender, and don't spend much on games past 6 months maybe spent 30 dollars.

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NPR had a nice feature on Diablo Immortal. Cliffs: it takes monetizing to play to a new extreme, and many gamers and critics have heaped scorn on it-but Blizzard making tons of money off it and is laughing all the way to the bank. Click the button in the link for the audio version if too lazy to read:

 

Borealis7

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NPR had a nice feature on Diablo Immortal. Cliffs: it takes monetizing to play to a new extreme, and many gamers and critics have heaped scorn on it-but Blizzard making tons of money off it and is laughing all the way to the bank. Click the button in the link for the audio version if too lazy to read:

they may be making bank now, but what about the long term hit to their reputation? it could be a net loss in the long run, especially if Diablo 4 contains a similar cash shop and retains the short repetitive game loop that D3 and DI have.
 

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Normally I would be 100% in on Diablo4, but after seeing the misteps on D3 and how ultimately that game ended up and DI, D4 is going to have to knock it out of the park for me to even consider. The space is crowded now and I have a feeling D4 isn't going to be a grand slam.
 

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People need to stop throwing money at blizzard.
Also senators need to get off there butt in this whole left wing right wing, and actually think of children, and how loot boxes will just mess up our younger generation.

Seriously, there is nothing good about loot boxes other then profits for the company, at the cost of our children.
I really have no idea how loot boxes lasted so long, yet games like GTA3 and GTA4 got censored backwards and forwards silly because it had sexual instances.

Where are all the Karen Moms not raising hell and pitchforks on predatory loot boxes?
 
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