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Diabetic folks check this out:

Why make a relatively simple task technically complex? Test strip cost and availability is unclear.

The Side-Kick offers 50 tests for around $20 and is available at Walmart.
 
gonna order one for the wife probably. Takes her forever to log everything. The auto logging sounds awesome
 
Ken g6 said:
This reminds me of something...

http://www.wired.com/2014/12/diabetes-patients-hacking-together-diy-bionic-pancreases/

Probably not the safest idea. But it includes mention of "continuous glucose monitor"s, which sound interesting and are probably safer alone.
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CGMS has been around for a while. Most all of the pump companies offer some type of CGMS. The problem is that it still needs to be calibrated daily and can be very unreliable if not calibrated. I've heard of way too many people relying on CGMS and really screwing things up.

The cool thing is that now there are more than just Johnson and Johnson and MiniMed working on this stuff. My son has a Tandem pump which is awesome. Touch screen, smaller than most cell phones, rock solid. Hopefully more smaller companies shake things up with the help of Kickstarter and the like.

Related: some college kids figured out how to make a temporary tattoo instead of drawing blood. Its still very early but its freaking cool:

http://www.gizmag.com/temporary-tattoo-blood-glucose/35649/

diabetes-tattoo.jpg
 
rudeguy said:
CGMS has been around for a while. Most all of the pump companies offer some type of CGMS. The problem is that it still needs to be calibrated daily and can be very unreliable if not calibrated. I've heard of way too many people relying on CGMS and really screwing things up.

The cool thing is that now there are more than just Johnson and Johnson and MiniMed working on this stuff. My son has a Tandem pump which is awesome. Touch screen, smaller than most cell phones, rock solid. Hopefully more smaller companies shake things up with the help of Kickstarter and the like.

Related: some college kids figured out how to make a temporary tattoo instead of drawing blood. Its still very early but its freaking cool:

http://www.gizmag.com/temporary-tattoo-blood-glucose/35649/

diabetes-tattoo.jpg
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I use a CGMS and love it. I can see a problem if you don't calibrate it at least once a day. You need to prick your finger anyways a few times a day so calibrate it at that time. I find the best time is to do it in the morning when you have been fasting and relying on it for the day should be fine.
 
jayzds said:
I use a CGMS and love it. I can see a problem if you don't calibrate it at least once a day. You need to prick your finger anyways a few times a day so calibrate it at that time. I find the best time is to do it in the morning when you have been fasting and relying on it for the day should be fine.
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Mind me asking which CGMS you are using?

I'm really curious to see how that technology evolves. I know the FDA will never let CGMS and a pump work together but that would be awesome.
 
rudeguy said:
Mind me asking which CGMS you are using?

I'm really curious to see how that technology evolves. I know the FDA will never let CGMS and a pump work together but that would be awesome.
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I use the Dexcom.

Why wouldn't they? Last I heard at my Endocrinologist a few months ago is that Dexcom is working with Omnipod, Medtronics, and a couple others (forgot the names) to get the Dexcom system working within the pump so it would be both for insulin and CGMS at the same time. I will follow up in April on my next appointment if they know anything new.
 
jayzds said:
I use the Dexcom.

Why wouldn't they? Last I heard at my Endocrinologist a few months ago is that Dexcom is working with Omnipod, Medtronics, and a couple others (forgot the names) to get the Dexcom system working within the pump so it would be both for insulin and CGMS at the same time. I will follow up in April on my next appointment if they know anything new.
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Last time I looked into it, the FDA was afraid of a failure causing injury or death. I admit this was many years ago and I haven't done much more than glance at current CGMS products.
 
rudeguy said:
Last time I looked into it, the FDA was afraid of a failure causing injury or death. I admit this was many years ago and I haven't done much more than glance at current CGMS products.
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Oh yeah...I would have that fear with the pumps alone.

I have heard of a couple people killed because their pump released all the insulin and never woke up. I don't recall any details nor care because something like that is a fluke.

It looks like they are moving forward with it and they (my Endo) did say they were shooting for 2016(I think) if all goes well. But, I am sure there will be set backs when dealing with stuff like this.
 
rudeguy said:
Last time I looked into it, the FDA was afraid of a failure causing injury or death. I admit this was many years ago and I haven't done much more than glance at current CGMS products.
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If youre talking about CGM+pump theres 2 out now. The Medtronic 640 and the Animas Vibe.

If youre talking about a unit that auto adjusts to each other, thats an AP (artificial pancreas) which is still in development. They are making great strides, but the biggest hangup right now is getting glucagon to remain stable outside of the refrigerator.
 
blackangst1 said:
If youre talking about CGM+pump theres 2 out now. The Medtronic 640 and the Animas Vibe.

If youre talking about a unit that auto adjusts to each other, thats an AP (artificial pancreas) which is still in development. They are making great strides, but the biggest hangup right now is getting glucagon to remain stable outside of the refrigerator.
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That's what I meant. Thanks for cleaning that up!

I'm hoping to see the stem cell trials work out. It would be nice to see a cure rather than another machine.

http://www.biosciencetechnology.com/articles/2014/10/embryonic-stem-cells-trial-diabetes
 
Many companies give the testers away because they know they can charge more for the strips and recover the costs over the long-term. Most standalone units are priced around that and don't require a smart phone.

Having it plug in is nice to track things, but most people don't care about saving the data. Just saying...it's a layer of complexity that may end up costing more in the long run depending on what the testing strips run when compared to other products available. I've not priced either, but my wife got me a free tester from her office.
 
rudeguy said:
That's what I meant. Thanks for cleaning that up!

I'm hoping to see the stem cell trials work out. It would be nice to see a cure rather than another machine.

http://www.biosciencetechnology.com/articles/2014/10/embryonic-stem-cells-trial-diabetes
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Anyone in San Diego can sign up for the trials... if it was close to me I think I would go for this one.

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/study/NCT02239354?term=VC-01&rank=1#contacts

I have only had this about 6 years now and I'm sick of it already.
 
jayzds said:
I use a CGMS and love it. I can see a problem if you don't calibrate it at least once a day. You need to prick your finger anyways a few times a day so calibrate it at that time. I find the best time is to do it in the morning when you have been fasting and relying on it for the day should be fine.
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I stopped using my CGM awhile back (enlite 530G). It was a colossal pain in the ass and it's accuracy was really questionable. I think out of the first 20 sensors I used, about 15-16 of them failed within the 2nd - 3rd day. The few times it worked, it was great but it just wasn't reliable. I've heard great things about the dexcom CGMs but I figured since I finger stick 8-10 times a day already, there is no need to spend more money.
 
jayzds said:
I use the Dexcom.

Why wouldn't they? Last I heard at my Endocrinologist a few months ago is that Dexcom is working with Omnipod, Medtronics, and a couple others (forgot the names) to get the Dexcom system working within the pump so it would be both for insulin and CGMS at the same time. I will follow up in April on my next appointment if they know anything new.
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Yeah my endo mentioned something about that but I didn't quite understand what she meant. Are they combining the infusion sets with the sensors?
 
blackangst1 said:
If youre talking about CGM+pump theres 2 out now. The Medtronic 640 and the Animas Vibe.

If youre talking about a unit that auto adjusts to each other, thats an AP (artificial pancreas) which is still in development. They are making great strides, but the biggest hangup right now is getting glucagon to remain stable outside of the refrigerator.
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Yes, I was referring to the Medtronic 640 and the likes. Looks like once FDA approves it will be available in this year.

I am waiting for the Omnipod to be available and hope it comes in 2015 as well. I do not care for the tubes, they always get in my way.
 
dabuddha said:
Yeah my endo mentioned something about that but I didn't quite understand what she meant. Are they combining the infusion sets with the sensors?
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Yes, like what was linked above. The Medtronics 640 is one example. (I think that was what you were referring to as well?)
A good step in the right direction for me anyways. Hate having so many things attached to my body.
 
jayzds said:
Yes, like what was linked above. The Medtronics 640 is one example. (I think that was what you were referring to as well?)
A good step in the right direction for me anyways. Hate having so many things attached to my body.
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Don't you run out of pockets? 😀

lil rudeguy is going to be out on his own a lot more now that he's going to be working. Having to haul around a pump, a phone, a meter and a CGMS device just sounds like too much.
 
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