DFI UT NF4 Ultra won't post with two stick of memory?

[bubbers214]

I got my DFI NF4 board today and installed it, and it will not post with both of my RAM sticks installed. It will post with one in and then if i put the other one in, it posts. But if i put both in (doesn't matter the config, i tried em all) it wont post. I tried increasing the voltage all the way to 3.3 still wont post. My ram chips are as follows 1x512 Corsiar pc3500(bh5) and 1x512 OCZ VX. These chips ran just fine in dual channel on my previous abit board. Any of you have this same problem.. and if so did you fix it and how?

 

[deadseasquirrel]

What dimm slots are you using? Try 2 and 4 (4 being the one closest to the CPU).

There have been some reported issues with TCCD here and there. Looks like many are needing 3.6v and higher to get to POST.

Try DFI Street and Xtreme Systems for some threads.

 

[deadseasquirrel]

nothing to see here.

these aren't the droids you're looking for.

move along.

move along.

 

[bubbers214]

i have tried 2 and 4 along with every other way imaginable and still no post.. ill try 3.7 to see what i can get

EDIT: tried 3.7 and still got no post... arg this is agitating

 

[deadseasquirrel]

have you plugged in the extra connectors to the mobo? there's a standard 4-pin molex connector and one that looks like a HDD power connector.

 

[shira]

These ARE two different brands of memory, with different characteristics. I realize that, in theory, this shouldn't make a difference, but it could be the source of the problem.

And I don't think either BH-5 or VX is TCCD. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[hondAS2ooo170]

have u tried to put them on 1 and switched them to c if it is reading both?

 

[Waylay00]

I think you mean opposite. You don't think VX is BH-5 ot TCCD.

 

[hondAS2ooo170]

Originally posted by: Waylay00
I think you mean opposite. You don't think VX is BH-5 ot TCCD.

wtf now im confused? sorry but im not really good with comp language. wat is vx,bh5, and tccd.

 

[Waylay00]

OCZ Gold VX PC3200 = a model of memory that OCZ makes


BH-5 = Type of Memory Chip.
Samsung TCCD = Type of memory chip.

BH-5 is out of production and has been for a while.

 

[hondAS2ooo170]

Originally posted by: Waylay00
OCZ Gold VX PC3200 = a model of memory that OCZ makes


BH-5 = Type of Memory Chip.
Samsung TCCD = Type of memory chip.

BH-5 is out of production and has been for a while.

thank u for that now i get it

 

[bubbers214]

I am using all the extra power connectors, the 4 square pin from the psu and the 4 pin molex from the CPU. and yes i have tried putting both chips in one at a time and it will post and boot using either chip. So there is just something wrong with them both being in there at the same time. I realise that they are two different brands and two different types but they worked together perfectly in my NF7.

EDIT: I also flashed the bios to the beta 02/01/05 bios

 

[hondAS2ooo170]

Originally posted by: bubbers214
I am using all the extra power connectors, the 4 square pin from the psu and the 4 pin molex from the CPU. and yes i have tried putting both chips in one at a time and it will post and boot using either chip. So there is just something wrong with them both being in there at the same time. I realise that they are two different brands and two different types but they worked together perfectly in my NF7.

EDIT: I also flashed the bios to the beta 02/01/05 bios

did u read manual and the little prints (if any)?

 

[pudds]

you probably just got lucky with your previous board, mixing memory types rarely works.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: Waylay00
I think you mean opposite. You don't think VX is BH-5 ot TCCD.

Maybe I said it badly. I was referring to deadseasquirrel's post about the issues that the DFI NF4 boards are apparently having with TCCD memory.

In addition to pointing out that bubbers was mixing memory, I was trying to say that any DFI TCCD-related issue was irrelevant, since neither the Corsair BH5 nor the OCZ VX is TCCD memory.

 

[jose]

Did you use the 2 orange slots ? At first I used the yellow mem slots & got a bios message suggesting to use dimm 2 &4 for dual channel mode.

I also have the following issues:

I have 3 problems:

1 - System does not power off automatically. It say "You can now power off your computer " . What needs to be set in the bios ?

2 - Why after loading the latest nvidia drivers do I still have a yellow question mark on the network adapter ? The system is able to browse the net fine. I turned off the nv firewall. I have only one
network cable pluged in.. the other nic port is empty..

I thought the Ultra only had one nic but the mobo has 2 nic ports..

This is the worst problems:

3 - I have 4 scsi hd's and when I plug 2 in the system works fine.
But when I plug all 4 in then I don't get video till the system gets to
the desktop. (Unable to see bios info at boot time)

I have almost two identical systems. see my sig.

The Antec EPS version is more powerful than the regular version I have in my P4 rig. 36A vs 24A on the +12V rail.

Here's how I have the power leads pluged in. Not having sata I'm left w/ 3 seperate wires w/ plugs.

Wire #1 has 3 - 4pin molex connectors. 2 connected to pci-e video card & one to the mobo.

Wire #2 has 2 - 4pin & 2 - floppy connectors. 1 - 4pin connected to
Nec 3500a, 1 - pin connected to 80mm & 120mm fan, 1 mini connected to floppy, 1 mini connected to LiveDrive

Wire #3 has 2 - 4pin molex connectors. I have 2 - Y split connectors pluged to 4 scsi hd's.


Also running XPsp2, nforce 6.39, nvidia video 71.80


I was able to resolve issue #3 by changing one of the molex connectors to a seperate connector w/ the floppy drive.

I don't know if my ram is tccd but the mem. timings are 2-2-3-5 1T

Regards,
Jose

 

[bubbers214]

im trying to get rid of all the "auto" settings in the bios for ram timings in case thats reason it will not post. I need an explanation of the things in the bios though, im only used to the 4 values of the old Athlon XP's not all these new values. so i dont know what constitutes " loose " timings

 

[deadseasquirrel]

Originally posted by: bubbers214
im trying to get rid of all the "auto" settings in the bios for ram timings in case thats reason it will not post. I need an explanation of the things in the bios though, im only used to the 4 values of the old Athlon XP's not all these new values. so i dont know what constitutes " loose " timings

Though not 100% identical, here are the BIOS explanations for RAM on the DFI NF3. Many of them are the exact same for DFI NF4.

 

[flexy]

Edit: THIS IS FOR TCCD - eg. OCZ 3200 el rev2 sticks !!!!!!!!!


Getting it to post with 2 x 512 OCZ PC3200 Platinum Rev 2 and shipping BIOS dated 25.01.05

1. Tear hair out for a while trying dual channel
2. Clear CMOS, use one stick in slot 2 -post
3. Find default RAM voltage is set to 2.5- change to 2.7
4. Reboot- flash to beat BIOS 2.01.
5. SWITCH OFF
6. Install ram is slots 2 and 4- orange
7. Install Windows

from xtremsystems.org

Problem is that two sticks use more volts than default, therefore you must first use only one, then up voltage in bios and then you can use BOTH sticks in 2 and 4. Also, the ysay the latest beta bios (2/1) is best.

 

[Interitus]

Originally posted by: flexy
Edit: THIS IS FOR TCCD - eg. OCZ 3200 el rev2 sticks !!!!!!!!!


Getting it to post with 2 x 512 OCZ PC3200 Platinum Rev 2 and shipping BIOS dated 25.01.05

1. Tear hair out for a while trying dual channel
2. Clear CMOS, use one stick in slot 2 -post
3. Find default RAM voltage is set to 2.5- change to 2.7
4. Reboot- flash to beat BIOS 2.01.
5. SWITCH OFF
6. Install ram is slots 2 and 4- orange
7. Install Windows

from xtremsystems.org

Problem is that two sticks use more volts than default, therefore you must first use only one, then up voltage in bios and then you can use BOTH sticks in 2 and 4. Also, the ysay the latest beta bios (2/1) is best.

Cheers flexy!

 

[larry89]

I am having this problem also, but I can't find the beta bios.

I have the dual channel OCZ EL PLATINUM REV 2

 

[Sniper82]

All because they worked in a NF7 doesnt mean they will in a DFI. Not to mention this is a newer chipset and board which is bound to be picky and have bugs.

 

[PascalT]

same problem here, altho i can actually boot with 2 sticks, it ends up crashing alot in windows.

 

[Tripp17]

Ok, first of all the OCZ Platinum Rev.2 chips need a voltage of 2.65 MINIMUM. And so you know, i have had NO problems at all with my DFI Ultra-D and my OCZ Platinum Rev.2 memory, in fact ive had the opposite. Im at ddr 550 with a 1:1 ratio and at 1T. My settings are 2.5-3-3-7 and the voltage is at 2.8. Im getting about 7,800 mb/s in SiSoft Sandra.

 

[larry89]

Originally posted by: Tripp17
Ok, first of all the OCZ Platinum Rev.2 chips need a voltage of 2.65 MINIMUM. And so you know, i have had NO problems at all with my DFI Ultra-D and my OCZ Platinum Rev.2 memory, in fact ive had the opposite. Im at ddr 550 with a 1:1 ratio and at 1T. My settings are 2.5-3-3-7 and the voltage is at 2.8. Im getting about 7,800 mb/s in SiSoft Sandra.

Good for You. Im not so lucky. My ram voltage is at 2.77 and still not booting with 2 sticks.