DFI Ultra-D Problems

imported_Bleh

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Hey guys I just got my Venice 3000+ and DFI ultra-d combo running but I have a problem. I can not get this motherboard above 240 and boot into windows. Ive tried upping ldt voltage and chipset voltage and still nothing. I thought this board was supposed to be the king of overclocking so any help would be appreciated.
 

CheesePoofs

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Are you using the latest bios? Do you have yoru LTD set to 4x or 3x?

Try this: lower your CPU multiplier to 6x, ram to DDR200 (2:1), LTD to 3x. Then see if you can get above 240. Dont' try for the high numbers all at once, just start with 240 and work your way up.
 

imported_Bleh

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Ive tried what you said cheesepoofs and only was able to reach 270 mhz htt that was bootable into windows. Right now I cant get this damn venice 3000+ past 2100-2150 mhz.
 

imported_motodude

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I kinda have the same problem with my 3000 winchester and ultra-d: with a 1/1 divider I can boot into windows at 240 (stable at 235), any higher and I have to use 1/2 then I can go upto 270. Unfortunately none of the other dividers seem to work. So it's a choice of running my cpu at 2115 w/memory at 235, or 2430 w/memory at 135, needless to say I'm not impressed. I'm going to RMA my board, but have'nt made up my mind if I'm going to stay with dfi or not.

Also have you tried running just one stick of memory. I had no trouble running 270 x 9, htt x3, 9/10 divider, 2-2-2-6 when I put the second stick in all hell broke loose, wouldn't post, windows became corrupted, I ended up taking everything apart and startinging over at square one. There's also http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/index.php?s= . with lots of info. good luck.
 

imported_Bleh

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Seems like its the 2 sticks of memory that are doing it. I took out one and im typing under 255 htt and 230 memory. Does this happen with most DFI boards or is it an rmable issue?
 

jose

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Maybe you could rma the Venice cpu back to amd and ask for a better one. ;P j/k

It looks more like its your processor not being a good oc'er..

What memory do you have ? Are all 4 power connectors pluged in ?

What power supply do you have ?
 

imported_motodude

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Dude I think this board is a POS, if you go to dfi forums half the posts are memory related problems. Maybe DFI sent out a bunch of bad boards,I don't know, I do know those fvcking fanboys over there are spouting the same crap, saying it's the cpu or memory, yeah right. This may be the most customizable board, but if it takes three days just to get it to boot into windows, what's the point, twenty hours of staring at bios screens just does'nt get me off anymore.:roll:
 

Demo24

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because thats the forum to get problems fixed. No crap there are few "yay" stories because they arent posted there.

Thats like saying you work for tech support and complaining that all you get is problem emails
 

imported_Bleh

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Computer Specs:
Venice 3000+
DFI Ultra-D running 4/14 beta bios
1 gig ocz value vx
500 watt ultra psu
120 gig sata ide hard drive
Ati x800xl

I have a special ultra 20 to 24 pin cable, all power hooked up, including the extra floppy connector and regular 4 pin.
 

CheesePoofs

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ah, well that power supply could be your problem. According to DFi, you must have a 24pin power supply to run this board properly; I know you don't need one for running stock, but for OCing, I'd recomend a 24pin PS only. And 20-24pin adapters don't cut it. They do NOT make your PS 24pin, they just make it seem like it is, and often cause many more problems then you would hope they would fix.

I'd recomend you get a new PS before you do anything else. But also check and make sure your ram isn't bad ... if one stick works and the other doesn't, the second one is bad. See if the board works fine with either of the sticks in by itself, or if only one of the sticks works fine by itself.
 

imported_Bleh

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The cable goes from 20 pin (hooks into psu) to 24 pin it doesnt attach to an adapter. I dont see how it would be a problem considering its max power is 34 amps on 12 volt rail so theres really no need to split the rails because theres enough power to power everything. Right now im running stable at 245 mhz htt with a 9/10 divider on my memory. I think it might just be a matter of burning in because before I wasnt able to boot into anything above 240 with dual channel no matter what memory divider and now I can get 245 htt. Ill push it more and see what I can get.
 

CheesePoofs

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That cable is the adapter I was referring to. I don't especially remember the reasoning behind it, but I know that at least with soome PS's using a 20-24 pin cable would result in poor stability and other problems.
 

imported_Bleh

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Update: Running at 256 mhz htt with 9/10 memory divider so its at 2.3 ghz. Ill test for prime stable later. Im really thinking its just a burning in thing now.
 

Mucker

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Originally posted by: motodude
Dude I think this board is a POS, if you go to dfi forums half the posts are memory related problems. Maybe DFI sent out a bunch of bad boards,I don't know, I do know those fvcking fanboys over there are spouting the same crap, saying it's the cpu or memory, yeah right. This may be the most customizable board, but if it takes three days just to get it to boot into windows, what's the point, twenty hours of staring at bios screens just does'nt get me off anymore.:roll:

The Ultra-D boards are just fine the way they are. There is simply no other board that can match the memory options of this one. And for that reason, it can be tricky to set up. You should NOT purchase this board unless you are willing to spend alot of time learning/reading, testing, and setting it up. Alot of people don't mind doing that (me for one). This board is a tweakers board period made to extract the very last ounce of performance out of it, make no mistake about it. If you prefer something less challenging, I'd suggest you buy a Dell (dude) or even safer, an I-Mac. The couple of bios options shouldn't eat up more than 30 seconds of your time.

You are simply misinforming people about the Ultra-D when in reality you are either 1) unaware of the hardware requirements for the board, 2) don't know what you are doing or 3) don't care to put the necessary time into learning how to make it fly. To diss the board and make your childish fanboy claims both here and at DFI-Street is irrational. DFI-Street is one of the best online communities around, solidly staffed with a tremendous amount of available info (if one cares to take the time to learn) If you are frustrated that much, make your life easier and get a Dell dude....or be a Steve Jobs fanboy....

m :)
 

Demo24

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how many V's you pumping into that ram? Isnt that the stuff that can take like 3.2?
 

rise

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agreed mucker. my board has been flawless. the only quirkiness i had was when i used an underpowered psu (system still ran, just didn't oc well, or well enough :p ) or poor ram (system still ran just didn't oc well).

people bash this board because they don't like what they hear on dfi.street or point to the number of "problems" here or there. seems like nearly all are people using hardware that doesn't meet system requirements and/or recommendations. then you have people like me who need to be hit over the head a few times with suggestions until they sink in.

OP did you get this combo with the 4.14 bios? from monarch i'm guessing?

and mucker, if ya want to see why motodude isn't getting the answers he wants check his questions over on street.
 

Mucker

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Hello Rise, are you referring to the old saying that he obviously has never heard?: "You can attract more bees with honey......" Hopefully he's just frustrated, but if not a little "tact" check is in order I believe. There are alot of people willing to help over there, as you already know.....

m :)
 

DoC91383

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I to own an ultra D and i also ran into a wall at 240 with my memory at 1:1. If you run a divider and up the voltage to your dimms it will go away.
 

CheesePoofs

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Originally posted by: DoC91383
I to own an ultra D and i also ran into a wall at 240 with my memory at 1:1. If you run a divider and up the voltage to your dimms it will go away.

Thats because your ram couldn't run faster than 240mhz, not because of the board.
 

imported_motodude

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Originally posted by: Mucker
Originally posted by: motodude
Dude I think this board is a POS, if you go to dfi forums half the posts are memory related problems. Maybe DFI sent out a bunch of bad boards,I don't know, I do know those fvcking fanboys over there are spouting the same crap, saying it's the cpu or memory, yeah right. This may be the most customizable board, but if it takes three days just to get it to boot into windows, what's the point, twenty hours of staring at bios screens just does'nt get me off anymore.:roll:

The Ultra-D boards are just fine the way they are. There is simply no other board that can match the memory options of this one. And for that reason, it can be tricky to set up. You should NOT purchase this board unless you are willing to spend alot of time learning/reading, testing, and setting it up. Alot of people don't mind doing that (me for one). This board is a tweakers board period made to extract the very last ounce of performance out of it, make no mistake about it. If you prefer something less challenging, I'd suggest you buy a Dell (dude) or even safer, an I-Mac. The couple of bios options shouldn't eat up more than 30 seconds of your time.

You are simply misinforming people about the Ultra-D when in reality you are either 1) unaware of the hardware requirements for the board, 2) don't know what you are doing or 3) don't care to put the necessary time into learning how to make it fly. To diss the board and make your childish fanboy claims both here and at DFI-Street is irrational. DFI-Street is one of the best online communities around, solidly staffed with a tremendous amount of available info (if one cares to take the time to learn) If you are frustrated that much, make your life easier and get a Dell dude....or be a Steve Jobs fanboy....

m :)


Dude I already got a Dell.:)

Fair enough, I won't bash DFI anymore, this board takes more work than I am willing to invest, so to each his own.:beer:
 

imported_Bleh

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I updated to the 4/14 beta bios using winflash. It came from monarch with only the 1-25 bios, I thought they would update to official 3/10 bios but whatever. Anywho I got it stable at 2.4 ghz (267 mhz HTT) and 218.5 mhz memory (2-2-2-5 timings). Im also running 3.3 volts on it using the jumper trick but it still says my ram is at 3.2 volts using smartguardian. Any comments on this?