DFI LanParty UT RDX200CF-DR Crossfire (Socket 939) Motherboard

[Madellga]

For the ones thinking about the ATI Crossfire chipset, here is an interesting product:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Socket_939.html

You can order today, it ships within 3 days.

I guess it is not in the paper anymore.

Now missing is the Anandtech review with 2 X1800XT on it

 

[dug777]

hawt

i :heart: DFI.

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

wow....why nobody cares?

 

[Powermoloch]

Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch
wow....why nobody cares?

Not much ppl are informed...yet......

 

[michal1980]

wow thats about 260 bucks... i thought the lack of a memory controller on mobos would make them cheaper, this is intel price range

 

[darkswordsman17]

Not to mention all that talk about how Crossfire boards would cost so much less than SLI boards.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: Powermoloch

Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch
wow....why nobody cares?

Not much ppl are informed...yet......

Yea this thread at XS is like 20 pages long already. They have been eagerly waiting for this board.

Whether you want XFire or not or whether you want an NF4 or Grouper/Halibut for your system, it doesn't matter.

The fact is that this board uses NO JUMPERS, so VDIMM is off the 5V line directly ^^. Yay for OCers.

Furthermore, placement of the PCI-e slots has been fixed, so this OWNS.

BTW, the countepart for this board is DFI's new Expert series for the NF4 boards. Those are revision 2.0 of NF4s. Layout is exactly the same, so if you want an NV chipset, grab that instead.

 

[Reiniku]

Wow... expensive or not I just decided to get one of these or their nf4 counterparts. I love the design, the extra pci slot and the memory location.

 

[johnnqq]

is it the same as the sli mobo but with crossfire? i have heard nothing about this motherboard (i might delay build for it!)

 

[Madellga]

Originally posted by: michal1980
wow thats about 260 bucks... i thought the lack of a memory controller on mobos would make them cheaper, this is intel price range

Product in UK are somewhat overpriced, specially at launch. You should get it much cheaper in US.

Looking at the new ATIs, they are very expensive on this website - the 1800XT is around 470 pound - make that 800 dollars.......

 

[Madellga]

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: Powermoloch

Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch
wow....why nobody cares?

Not much ppl are informed...yet......

Yea this thread at XS is like 20 pages long already. They have been eagerly waiting for this board.

Whether you want XFire or not or whether you want an NF4 or Grouper/Halibut for your system, it doesn't matter.

The fact is that this board uses NO JUMPERS, so VDIMM is off the 5V line directly ^^. Yay for OCers.

Furthermore, placement of the PCI-e slots has been fixed, so this OWNS.

BTW, the countepart for this board is DFI's new Expert series for the NF4 boards. Those are revision 2.0 of NF4s. Layout is exactly the same, so if you want an NV chipset, grab that instead.

Hum, what is wrong with the PCI-e slot location? Never experienced any issues.

What happens with the new boards? Did they increase the distance to the CPU?

 

[Reiniku]

I'm starting to think this should be moved to the mobo section. Anyway, I'm looking into this board for its performance in a NON crossfire configuration. Any thougths of crossfire is killed by the 1600x1200 @ 60hz limitation (expecially with a 2405fpw on my upgrade path). I've never been a real sli fan so crossfire isn't any different for me. Anyway, just wanted to say that.

 

[DeeSlanger]

This chipset runs much cooler than NF4.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: Madellga

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: Powermoloch

Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch
wow....why nobody cares?

Not much ppl are informed...yet......

Yea this thread at XS is like 20 pages long already. They have been eagerly waiting for this board.

Whether you want XFire or not or whether you want an NF4 or Grouper/Halibut for your system, it doesn't matter.

The fact is that this board uses NO JUMPERS, so VDIMM is off the 5V line directly ^^. Yay for OCers.

Furthermore, placement of the PCI-e slots has been fixed, so this OWNS.

BTW, the countepart for this board is DFI's new Expert series for the NF4 boards. Those are revision 2.0 of NF4s. Layout is exactly the same, so if you want an NV chipset, grab that instead.

Hum, what is wrong with the PCI-e slot location? Never experienced any issues.

What happens with the new boards? Did they increase the distance to the CPU?

Look at the old NF4 Ultra-D/SLI-DR. The PCI-e slots are too close if you have bigger coolers. They are double spaced in the new Expert/Xfire boards. For osmoene who doesnt use SLI (like me) it doesn't matter.

The biggest issue is the vdimm jumper. No more 3.3/5v jumper and it feeds straight off the 5v rail.

I believe the CPU area has better clearance although XP-120s fit completely fine. RAM is now vertical....

Did they slightly move the SATA ports too? Turn them a bit? Dunno.

 

[Reiniku]

Actually, even with the previous model the problem was that any moderately long vid card would/block the NB fan, usually making nb temps rise. People were forced to run their cards on the bottom pci-e slot at only 8x performance rather than 16. They have fixed that however.

 

[Madellga]

You are right about this. I kept the GTX in the first slot, but that prevents me from replacing the chipset cooler: it is noisy, I would like to install a better one.

But going back to the video part of the discussion, I look forward to see how this mobo performs and how the Crossfire works with the X1800 series.

 

[Madellga]

Originally posted by: Reiniku
I'm starting to think this should be moved to the mobo section. Anyway, I'm looking into this board for its performance in a NON crossfire configuration. Any thougths of crossfire is killed by the 1600x1200 @ 60hz limitation (expecially with a 2405fpw on my upgrade path). I've never been a real sli fan so crossfire isn't any different for me. Anyway, just wanted to say that.

The limitation 1600x1200 @ 60hz is valid only for the X800/X850 series.

The new X1800/X1600 will not have this problem.

I think it is a waste of hardware and money to build a crossfire system in order to run X800/X850 cards under 1600x1200 - most games will not use that.

 

[Reiniku]

Originally posted by: Madellga

Originally posted by: Reiniku
I'm starting to think this should be moved to the mobo section. Anyway, I'm looking into this board for its performance in a NON crossfire configuration. Any thougths of crossfire is killed by the 1600x1200 @ 60hz limitation (expecially with a 2405fpw on my upgrade path). I've never been a real sli fan so crossfire isn't any different for me. Anyway, just wanted to say that.

The limitation 1600x1200 @ 60hz is valid only for the X800/X850 series.

The new X1800/X1600 will not have this problem.

I think it is a waste of hardware and money to build a crossfire system in order to run X800/X850 cards under 1600x1200 - most games will not use that.

I'm aware of this, I actually just bought a x800gto2. I don't really intend on getting much past "mid-level" gaming performance whenever I upgrade graphics cards. Crossfire/SLI isn't for me... but this board looks great. (the Sapphire "Grouper" would be nice too... non-crossfire but uses the same chipset).

 

[Megatomic]

I'll go with an ATI chipset mobo when I can get one with the SB600 chip. USB performance and SATA300 are high priorities for me.

 

[Reiniku]

Though I'm a bit offed by the lack of sata300 on one end and the lower usb performance, I can deal with them. I won't be getting rid of my maxtors anytime soon and I'm not too concerned with "sustained" usb performance.

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: Reiniku
I'm aware of this, I actually just bought a x800gto2. I don't really intend on getting much past "mid-level" gaming performance whenever I upgrade graphics cards. Crossfire/SLI isn't for me... but this board looks great. (the Sapphire "Grouper" would be nice too... non-crossfire but uses the same chipset).

I'm confused... If you aren't interested in the CrossFire capabilities why would you want to go with a first revision motherboard with a brand new chipset if you aren't even interested in taking advantage of the primary feature that makes it desirable? If you stick to "mid-level" graphics, why not get a motherboard to match? Chances are it will be more stable and give you the same performance. I'm not trying to flamebait you, I'm honestly kind of mystified by your resolve to get this mobo given your viewpoint on multi-gpu setups.

 

[rbV5]

Originally posted by: nitromullet

Originally posted by: Reiniku
I'm aware of this, I actually just bought a x800gto2. I don't really intend on getting much past "mid-level" gaming performance whenever I upgrade graphics cards. Crossfire/SLI isn't for me... but this board looks great. (the Sapphire "Grouper" would be nice too... non-crossfire but uses the same chipset).

I'm confused... If you aren't interested in the CrossFire capabilities why would you want to go with a first revision motherboard with a brand new chipset if you aren't even interested in taking advantage of the primary feature that makes it desirable? If you stick to "mid-level" graphics, why not get a motherboard to match? Chances are it will be more stable and give you the same performance. I'm not trying to flamebait you, I'm honestly kind of mystified by your resolve to get this mobo given your viewpoint on multi-gpu setups.

I know alot of people are looking at Crossfire because of its tremendous overclocking potential shown in the pre-reviews, not for multi-gpu.

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: michal1980
wow thats about 260 bucks... i thought the lack of a memory controller on mobos would make them cheaper, this is intel price range

The Asus A8N was well over $300 when it first came out. It was the first SLI board on the market. I waited it out.. and paid about $250, and that was a good deal at the time.

Originally posted by: michal1980
wow thats about 260 bucks... i thought the lack of a memory controller on mobos would make them cheaper, this is intel price range

The Asus A8N was well over $300 when it first came out. It was the first SLI board on the market. I waited it out.. and paid about $250, and that was a good deal at the time.

Originally posted by: Madellga
You are right about this. I kept the GTX in the first slot, but that prevents me from replacing the chipset cooler: it is noisy, I would like to install a better one.

But going back to the video part of the discussion, I look forward to see how this mobo performs and how the Crossfire works with the X1800 series.

I agree that the DFI chipset on the NF4 is LOUD. Its by far the loudest part of my system. It annoys me so much, that Im very tempted to go back to Asus, with the A8N premium, just to get passive chipset cooling. But I dont want to give up the DFI overclocking. Its much better than my A8N's I believe. The placement of the chipset is horrible on the DFI, and doesnt allow for any retail heatsinks to fit, without some sort of modding.

Here is a thread on that topic, and some VERY nice user made heatsinks; http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6577

 

[ZOXXO]

Originally posted by: Megatomic
I'll go with an ATI chipset mobo when I can get one with the SB600 chip. USB performance and SATA300 are high priorities for me.

Does the ULI SB suffer from these problems and are there any manufacturers still planning on using it.

 

[Snakexor]

when do you guys think newegg will be carrying this bad boy?