DFI Lanparty Ultra -D and Corsair Value Ram PC3200... READ THIS!

[msi1337]

I kept getting errors in Memtest86 on my DFI Ultra -D motherboard with this Corsair Value Ram 1GB Kit (2x512mb). I would just get one error in test 4. After talking with Corsair, I have finally passed Memtest86. Here is how I did it:

Set voltage to 2.6
Manually set to 2.5-3-3-8
Turn "Command per clock" to disabled, which will run this memory at 2T

unless you use those settings this memory will probably fail memtest86+

the problem lies in the SPD recognition of the DFI Lanparty NF4 motherboards... they automatically detect this ram as 2.5-3-3-7 and 1T timing... I am pretty sure you cannot get this memory to run 1T without getting errors in both memtest86 and superpi.

I hope this helps anyone who is having issues with this ram... since it is so cheap Anandtech is buying a lot of it. I have 2gb of it in each system now

 

[Brian48]

That's a shame if it is. I've found there's a big difference between 1T and 2T.

 

[shud]

Has anyone else had this problem? I'm about to dump this DFI for an MSI Neo4 if this is true.

 

[MobiusPizza]

DFi doesn't like Crossair I think

 

[CreativeTom]

Originally posted by: AnnihilatorX
DFi doesn't like Crossair I think

No what I have read so far on some diferent forums including here, is that the DFI doesn't like Corsair at all (especially value). Everything I read seems to list some problems when using Corsair in the DFI, I think some people have had success with some of the XMS sticks though. The best memory out now to run well with that board seems to be OCZ, they actually make some memory specifically designed for The DFI board.

 

[theMan]

DFI+OCZ=w00t

DFI+Corsair Value Select=🙁

that oughta sum it up for everyone!

 

[Ike0069]

Has to be a DFI issue. My 2x512 Cosair VS runs at 1T 2.5-3-3-8 no problems in my Neo2 Platinum.

 

[LyNX31]

Hmm, personally i think that the DFI vs corsair stuff is bogus?! correct me if im wrong.. but if you are getting the DFI you should be ready to do some tweaking anyway. The OP got his ram working fine with a few simple tweaks here and there... wasnt the dif b/w 1T and 2T about 1-2% at most? i read a little on a thread that zebo had started

yeah OCZ will work fine but u can get almost 2gigs of corsair to the 1gig OCZ... hence value ram 🙂

 

[CreativeTom]

Originally posted by: LyNX31
Hmm, personally i think that the DFI vs corsair stuff is bogus?! correct me if im wrong.. but if you are getting the DFI you should be ready to do some tweaking anyway. The OP got his ram working fine with a few simple tweaks here and there... wasnt the dif b/w 1T and 2T about 1-2% at most? i read a little on a thread that zebo had started

yeah OCZ will work fine but u can get almost 2gigs of corsair to the 1gig OCZ... hence value ram 🙂

This is true but no matter how much you work with the corsair, you are not gonna get it to work as nicely as the OCZ. I think if you want to go with a value ram in this board that's fine, but I would suggest this Text

 

[KoolDrew]

I would really like to know if anybody else here is running Corsair Value Select with the DFi as I was planning on getting both in my next rig. So I hope this is not true for everyone.

 

[imported_Kensai]

DFI doesn't work very well with Corsair, especially their Value Select line.

 

[KoolDrew]

Originally posted by: Kensai
DFI doesn't work very well with Corsair, especially their Value Select line.

Do you know of cheap RAM that does work well with the DFI?

 

[CreativeTom]

Originally posted by: KoolDrew

Originally posted by: Kensai
DFI doesn't work very well with Corsair, especially their Value Select line.

Do you know of cheap RAM that does work well with the DFI?

Yeah, I already posted this up above....this isn't cheap but it's inexpensive, and it will work great for ValueRam with the DFI Text

 

[furballi]

Have no problem runnin Corsair Value at 2.5-3-3-8-1T with Abit AX8 board. You may want to give Kingston Value RAM a shot. Have also had success with Kingmax value RAM with many other boards.

 

[MobiusPizza]

Originally posted by: CreativeTom

Originally posted by: KoolDrew

Originally posted by: Kensai
DFI doesn't work very well with Corsair, especially their Value Select line.

Do you know of cheap RAM that does work well with the DFI?

Yeah, I already posted this up above....this isn't cheap but it's inexpensive, and it will work great for ValueRam with the DFI Text

That can actually be had cheaper in Newegg

This value RAM shines in DFI board. It can actually go beyond 230 at 2-2-2-5 with a bit more voltage.
It's the same RAM as OCZ's Gold VX but just untested at 250fsb 2-2-2-5 at 3.2V

 

[CreativeTom]

Originally posted by: AnnihilatorX

Originally posted by: CreativeTom

Originally posted by: KoolDrew

Originally posted by: Kensai
DFI doesn't work very well with Corsair, especially their Value Select line.

Do you know of cheap RAM that does work well with the DFI?

Yeah, I already posted this up above....this isn't cheap but it's inexpensive, and it will work great for ValueRam with the DFI Text

That can actually be had cheaper in Newegg

This value RAM shines in DFI board. It can actually go beyond 230 at 2-2-2-5 with a bit more voltage.
It's the same RAM as OCZ's Gold VX but just untested at 250fsb 2-2-2-5 at 3.2V

That's not the same memory as the one I posted, you listed just the value line of memory, the one I posted above is the value VX. There is a big diference between the two, that explains the cost diference....and I never usually check Newegg's site, I like them alot I just don't go there cause I get charged tax cause I live in a state with a warehouse.

 

[LyNX31]

Originally posted by: AnnihilatorX

Originally posted by: CreativeTom

Originally posted by: KoolDrew

Originally posted by: Kensai
DFI doesn't work very well with Corsair, especially their Value Select line.

Do you know of cheap RAM that does work well with the DFI?

Yeah, I already posted this up above....this isn't cheap but it's inexpensive, and it will work great for ValueRam with the DFI Text

That can actually be had cheaper in Newegg

This value RAM shines in DFI board. It can actually go beyond 230 at 2-2-2-5 with a bit more voltage.
It's the same RAM as OCZ's Gold VX but just untested at 250fsb 2-2-2-5 at 3.2V

you guys got me interested in this ocz value VX ram!!! is active cooling required for these ram modules?

 

[CreativeTom]

No I don't think you will need to worry about active cooling on those, unless you are really planning to push them!!!!

 

[MobiusPizza]

Originally posted by: CreativeTom

Originally posted by: AnnihilatorX

Originally posted by: CreativeTom

Originally posted by: KoolDrew

Originally posted by: Kensai
DFI doesn't work very well with Corsair, especially their Value Select line.

Do you know of cheap RAM that does work well with the DFI?

Yeah, I already posted this up above....this isn't cheap but it's inexpensive, and it will work great for ValueRam with the DFI Text

That can actually be had cheaper in Newegg

This value RAM shines in DFI board. It can actually go beyond 230 at 2-2-2-5 with a bit more voltage.
It's the same RAM as OCZ's Gold VX but just untested at 250fsb 2-2-2-5 at 3.2V

That's not the same memory as the one I posted, you listed just the value line of memory, the one I posted above is the value VX. There is a big diference between the two, that explains the cost diference....and I never usually check Newegg's site, I like them alot I just don't go there cause I get charged tax cause I live in a state with a warehouse.

No it IS the same memory
Look at the part number OCZ4001024WV3DC-K
Exactly identical
I know this part number because I've spoke to OCZ representatives.
That part number is the OCZ Value VX

It's just Newegg named it wrong

 

[MobiusPizza]

Originally posted by: LyNX31
you guys got me interested in this ocz value VX ram!!! is active cooling required for these ram modules?

If you want to overclock to 250 2-2-2-5, if you are lucky 3.2V would do it. some people had to go over to 3.5V, some cannot go for 250fsb.

Achieving the timing off 2-2-2-5 is easy, but high frequency requires high voltage

Generally above 3.2V you'd need active cooling or it get errors in Memtest

 

[Ike0069]

Is this also the value VX?
OCZ Premier Value 2GB (2 x 1GB) Model #: OCZ4002048V3DC-K
If so, that is a great price for 2 GB's.

 

[LyNX31]

Originally posted by: AnnihilatorX

Originally posted by: LyNX31
you guys got me interested in this ocz value VX ram!!! is active cooling required for these ram modules?

If you want to overclock to 250 2-2-2-5, if you are lucky 3.2V would do it. some people had to go over to 3.5V, some cannot go for 250fsb.

Achieving the timing off 2-2-2-5 is easy, but high frequency requires high voltage

Generally above 3.2V you'd need active cooling or it get errors in Memtest

ahh great, thanks for the recommendation guys,

i was trying to piece together a comp for my bro.. let me know how this would sound

CPU - AMD 64 venice 3200+ (or is 3000+ better)
i dont plan to overclock too much.. maybe to 2.4ghz or so.. is stock heatsink and fan fine?
MB - DFI ultra D - which bios version is best?
RAM - this OCZ value VX!

don't mean to hijack the thread... but it kinda rides the topic of one of the best value ram being compatible with the DFI.

thanks for the suggestions

 

[MobiusPizza]

Originally posted by: Ike0069
Is this also the value VX?
OCZ Premier Value 2GB (2 x 1GB) Model #: OCZ4002048V3DC-K
If so, that is a great price for 2 GB's.

VX series has only got 512MB module versions

 

[MobiusPizza]

Originally posted by: LyNX31

Originally posted by: AnnihilatorX

Originally posted by: LyNX31
you guys got me interested in this ocz value VX ram!!! is active cooling required for these ram modules?

If you want to overclock to 250 2-2-2-5, if you are lucky 3.2V would do it. some people had to go over to 3.5V, some cannot go for 250fsb.

Achieving the timing off 2-2-2-5 is easy, but high frequency requires high voltage

Generally above 3.2V you'd need active cooling or it get errors in Memtest

ahh great, thanks for the recommendation guys,

i was trying to piece together a comp for my bro.. let me know how this would sound

CPU - AMD 64 venice 3200+ (or is 3000+ better)
i dont plan to overclock too much.. maybe to 2.4ghz or so.. is stock heatsink and fan fine?
MB - DFI ultra D - which bios version is best?
RAM - this OCZ value VX!

don't mean to hijack the thread... but it kinda rides the topic of one of the best value ram being compatible with the DFI.

thanks for the suggestions

Looks great. 3000+ if you can't shred the extra. Both are great overclockers

 

[KoolDrew]

Originally posted by: LyNX31

Originally posted by: AnnihilatorX

Originally posted by: LyNX31
you guys got me interested in this ocz value VX ram!!! is active cooling required for these ram modules?

If you want to overclock to 250 2-2-2-5, if you are lucky 3.2V would do it. some people had to go over to 3.5V, some cannot go for 250fsb.

Achieving the timing off 2-2-2-5 is easy, but high frequency requires high voltage

Generally above 3.2V you'd need active cooling or it get errors in Memtest

ahh great, thanks for the recommendation guys,

i was trying to piece together a comp for my bro.. let me know how this would sound

CPU - AMD 64 venice 3200+ (or is 3000+ better)
i dont plan to overclock too much.. maybe to 2.4ghz or so.. is stock heatsink and fan fine?
MB - DFI ultra D - which bios version is best?
RAM - this OCZ value VX!

don't mean to hijack the thread... but it kinda rides the topic of one of the best value ram being compatible with the DFI.

thanks for the suggestions

The 10x multi with the 3200+ comes in handy sometimes when overclocking so I would stick with it.

Also I would just get cheaper RAM and use a divider. Crucial Value RAM is good. I have seen 240-250mhz at 2.5-2-2 with less than 3v which is awesome for $85 RAM.