DF Daily Delay (Stability/Disk issues. Please read)

[m0ti]

Hi Everyone.

Been having lots of problems with Windows at home. Specifically the disk.

I've been trying to overclock pretty hard today, but this seems to be trashing my disk for some reason.

I've been able to get the FSB up at 159 and run stable (get DF going without falling/other miscellaneous problems).

But a couple of times the file system has gone bad.

After reinstalling Windows a couple of times as a result, at one point it said there may be a problem with the drive.

I don't know.

Did a clean install with no OC. So far everything's ok.

Has anybody heard of OC'ing resulting in trashing of the disk (maybe if memory was getting contaminated (?) but that should really affect system performance and stability overall).

I've got no clue.

Well, I'm off to bed. Needless to say, the last few hours have rather been a waste.

 

[networkman]

Has anybody heard of OC'ing resulting in trashing of the disk (maybe if memory was getting contaminated (?) but that should really affect system performance and stability overall).

Sure. Consider.. when you're trying to clock a processor beyond it's posted specs, you're usually affecting much more than just the main processor. If you're tweaking the FSB, you're going to be affecting the memory as well. Many of those same changes also increase the speed of the PCI bus as well - at this point you're now affecting MANY other components in the system.. nic, video, sound, IDE controllers, etc. If the IDE controller is now operating beyond its intended specs, it could be very well be corrupting the data being sent through it.

Trying to overclock a CPU rarely affects just the CPU.

 

[Robor]

Yep, like networkman said, overclocking your FSB ups the speed of other parts in your system as well. Chances are you can bump the FSB speed back a little bit and lose a little CPU speed but save some headaches!

Good luck with it!

 

[m0ti]

Ok,

Thanks everyone.

Yeah I figured that it may be the case, but it's highly annoying.

Oh well.

 

[Insidious]

I just lived through that.

The first time I installed SP1, I had problems (turned out to be a combination of interaction of SP1 and my video set-up exacerbated (sp?) by my OC (mild)

The disk got hoz0red up (bocu x-linkage) and finally, I got tired of trying to re-build lost/corrupted stuff and just did a clean install (it was overdue anyway), removed the OC and now life is good.

Something changed...... either with the way WindowsXP uses memory (SP1) or just aging components........ I don't know which.

I suggest using a memory checker (I use DocMem) so you can prove stability (memory) before asking the OS to run. (Either that, or dust off the Ghost floppy and back up your HD before you start tweaking)

 

[m0ti]

No, actually the RAM is fine. I was rather pleasantly surprised at its ability to go this high. It could probably go higher (though if set to 166 instant hang).

It seems that the IDE controller just can't handle the speed and thus it trashes my windows partition.

Anyway, I've currently got my system at 153 FSB which means that it's 1400 AXP @ 1606, with CAS 2 on the memory. Which isn't too bad at all.

I'll have to update my rig.

 

[muttley]

syncrous and asysronious is what is occuring in old P-90 and P-100 the change was very littlle. As the more extremes occurred there were problems with the hard drive bus speeds. Seperating the tie in of the clocks solved problems then there was a problem of AGP speed and a multiplyer was put in.

A good oddball example is the Tyan Tiger The tie in of all the previous 64bit was in to the 33mhz and thus not able to flow all the data. Now comes the ty in to a different point in a the diagram available. and you are able to get 66 mhz transfer rate.

And as you can now see minor clock speeds can be changed even in 1 mgz increments for memory.

It use to be that a fixed crystal provided the clock and all things were devisors down there from that.

muttley

 

[Insidious]

That's interesting. Sounds a lot different from what I had been dealing with. (My HD's run from the HighPoint controller.)

In my son's words........... "So, why can't they just make computers that work right out of the box?" I had to give him the humbling answer..........

"It did until I started messing with it"

Glad you got your issue licked. When it's a good time, I'll work on getting my speeds back up........ Gotta do some hardware swapping first to figure out just where my weak link is....... time consuming and certainly going to get put off for a Slushy Indiana Weekend

 

[m0ti]

actually that's not a bad idea.

I've got a promise controller on this board.

Hmm... maybe that'll scale ok.

It'll probably trash my drive though. Maybe I'll give that a try in a couple of weeks. I've had enough reinstalling Windows for at least that long.