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Developing & Manufacturing Costs Of A HDD Vs. A Video Card

East17

Junior Member
Hello everybody,

I was wondering what are the costs of manufacturing a 150GB Raptor HDD and what are the costs for the Radeon 1950XTX ?

Also ... an important quiestion is : What are the R & D costs for the 150GB Raptor and what are the R & D costs for the Radeon 1950XTX video card ?

Which one cost more to make and develop ?
 
I would think that the ATI card would cost more, since WD was making SCSI HDs before they came out with the Raptor line.
 
The ati is probably more expensive to manufacture.

Design costs is kinda relative. I mean, do you include the cost of developing the radeon x1800 series in the cost of developing the x1950? A top end video card often incorporates features, designs, etc that were developed for a previous top end card, just like the raptor incorporates things developed out of R&D from previous hard drives.
 
The video card would have to cost alot more in R&D, but the Raptor would have to cost more to produce, since it actually requires a motor, and a 10,000 rpm one at that.
 
video card

the RAM is expensive and they use the newest chip machines to make graphics chips

HDD's there is nothing that is special, it's all commodity parts from different companies. the heads are made by some company in the midwest.
 
Originally posted by: Blain
I would think that the ATI card would cost more, since WD was making SCSI HDs before they came out with the Raptor line.

Like he said, the Raptor series is very similar to the 10000RPM Cheetah I have on my desk now. They just need to replace the interface on the disk drive.
 
Almost definitely the hard drive costs more to produce. Margins on hard drives are microsopic compared to those on highend video cards and CPUs. Video GPU's are speed/quality binned, just like CPU cores are. A Core 2 Extreme does not cost 3 times more to produce than a C2 E6600, it costs the exact same amount in raw materials. The same goes for video cards with some caveats. Obviously, adding more RAM will add to production costs, but not nearly to the tune of $400 more that can occur between the highend and low end of video card families.

As far as R&D costs go, who knows. Though I doubt many if any people from WD's SCSI division were still around by the time the Raptor development started. The performance tuning of the Raptor which leans heavily towards workstation performance instead of the server performance it was originally targetted at is further evidence that the drive was likely produced by a team more familiar with desktop drives than with a SCSI enterprise background.
 
Hmmm ... a GPU like R580 is around 90-100$ ... the memory is around 100$ ... teh PCB and components are around 50$ ...

This brings us to 250$ materials costs ...

The rest is the profit and costs of the card manufacturer and the reseller or retailer .

At the WD drive ... the patters are the same as on the other drives ... Or they aren't ?

The motor is taken from the SCSI line ...

There are some developing costs related to the Firmware and specific optimisations ...

Do you really think there's such a big difference between a WD 160GB 7200RPM drive and a 150GB 10000 RMP Raptor dirive ...

I mean ... the 160GB drive is 63$ ... this price includes the WD profit , the transport , the resseler profit and the retailer profit ...

Why is the 150GB Raptor 500% more expensive ????

50% would be resonable ... but not real in a capitalist economy 🙂

100% more expensive (DOUBLE PRICE) would be profitable .

200% more expensive (TRIPLE THE PRICE) would be extremely profitable ...

This brings us to a price of about 180$ ... but 300$ ????

How ? Why ?
 
Shouldn't the 750 Seagate be more expensive ?

After all ... the density is a lot greater than on the 150GB Raptor ...

Anyway .... the quiestion is : What makes the Raptor so expensive ?
 
Originally posted by: East17
50% would be resonable ... but not real in a capitalist economy 🙂
"Not real"?
Think about Microsoft pressing thousands and thousands of copies of XP or Office... :shocked:
Very real! :laugh:


 
Originally posted by: East17
Shouldn't the 750 Seagate be more expensive ?

After all ... the density is a lot greater than on the 150GB Raptor ...

Anyway .... the quiestion is : What makes the Raptor so expensive ?

Because its a low margin drive.

Few people these days want FAST storage. The market is at BULK storage. Hence the downfall of SCSI, as even the latest 7200rpm drives are faster than the oldest 15K drive. Since they sell less, they earn more per drive.
 
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