Deus Ex: Human Revolution - Highlighting Now Optional

[mindcycle]

The Deus Ex: Human Revolution team has released a video message announcing they have heard the community concern over highlighting and object locating (the gold outlines) and it will be optional. they explain and defend the original choice as being faithful to the fiction but they have responded to the concern. The video also includes some footage, so you can see the differences.

via: http://www.rpgwatch.com/#17113

 

[CottonRabbit]

Somehow somebody will find a way to complain about this.

 

[KaOTiK]

noooooo I can't make use of my image I made for it anymore

Well I might still use it, need to remove the highlighting maybe :hmm:
This is good they made it optional, should of been from the start with how overboard they went with it.

 

[motsm]

Somehow somebody will find a way to complain about this.

No need really, there are plenty of other things to complain about that should be optional.

 

[DangerAardvark]

Somehow somebody will find a way to complain about this.

Somehow someone always finds a way to complain about complaining, even prior to said complaining.

 

[shortylickens]

No need really, there are plenty of other things to complain about that should be optional.

This.
The game is consolized like a son of a bitch. Something that can be enabled and disabled is a minor issue.

 

[DangerAardvark]

This.
The game is consolized like a son of a bitch. Something that can be enabled and disabled is a minor issue.

I don't think it's fair to call it "consolization" anymore, since it's pretty much the norm now. Let's just call the rare game that ships with the option to disable mouse acceleration and an interface designed for mice and scroll-wheels PC-ified.

 

[shortylickens]

I don't think it's fair to call it "consolization" anymore, since it's pretty much the norm now. Let's just call the rare game that ships with the option to disable mouse acceleration and an interface designed for mice and scroll-wheels PC-ified.

Deus Ex started on the computer, and was a fantastic example of why that platform was better for most RPG's except hack'n'slash.

The franchise has gone downhill a lot and its specifically to make it more palatable to the average console gamer.

 

[CottonRabbit]

Deus Ex started on the computer, and was a fantastic example of why that platform was better for most RPG's except hack'n'slash.

The franchise has gone downhill a lot and its specifically to make it more palatable to the average console gamer.

Diablo?

Deus Ex isn't a franchise, it's one good game and a forgotten sequel. Ignoring the name, so far Human Revolution looks like a well-made, modern RPG with devs that actually listen to community feedback.

 

[motsm]

Diablo?

Deus Ex isn't a franchise, it's one good game and a forgotten sequel. Ignoring the name, so far Human Revolution looks like a well-made, modern RPG with devs that actually listen to community feedback.

They hardly listen to feedback, their official forum has been over 2 years of completely ignored feedback. The highlighting just got a lot of negative press at other venues because when you know nothing about the game and watch a video, that horrendous feature just yells at you a lot more than the important game play features they have stripped out or mangled. I still find it literally unbelievable they thought it was a good thing though, just knowing there are game developers that support a feature like that shocks me.

 

[Borealis7]

i'd like to be able to play a Sniper. that's all i ask.

i played Borderlands as a sniper, i played Sniper: Ghost Warrior, i like sniping so let me be a sniper.

 

[Veliko]

They hardly listen to feedback, their official forum has been over 2 years of completely ignored feedback. The highlighting just got a lot of negative press at other venues because when you know nothing about the game and watch a video, that horrendous feature just yells at you a lot more than the important game play features they have stripped out or mangled. I still find it literally unbelievable they thought it was a good thing though, just knowing there are game developers that support a feature like that shocks me.

Feedback is mostly ignored because most of it is just bullshit complaints about nothing. The highlighting outrage was a storm in a teacup.

 

[motsm]

Feedback is mostly ignored because most of it is just bullshit complaints about nothing. The highlighting outrage was a storm in a teacup.

Not really. The outrage over their utterly terrible highlighting was completely justified, and they should count themselves lucky that it happened, or else they would have actually shipped their game looking like that. It only took a few thousand people to make them realize they had their heads up their own ass'.

Most of the other main forum complaints were just as valid, but would have required more than the 30 minutes worth of work it probably took to remove highlighting. They could have been busy for maybe 8 or 9 whole hours fixing the main issues the forum had with the game, but that was clearly too much for them to bother with.

 

[Veliko]

Not really. The outrage over their utterly terrible highlighting was completely justified, and they should count themselves lucky that it happened, or else they would have actually shipped their game looking like that. It only took a few thousand people to make them realize they had their heads up their own ass'.

It wasn't justified at all because it was just a bunch of shrills shouting their heads off. It happens all the time and it gets boring listening to people like you overreact to things like this - calling it 'utterly terrible' is just hyperbole.

Exactly why should they 'count themselves lucky'? Would the world have ended if they hadn't made it optional?

It only took a few thousand people to make them realize they had their heads up their own ass'.

What does this even mean?

 

[motsm]

It wasn't justified at all because it was just a bunch of shrills shouting their heads off. It happens all the time and it gets boring listening to people like you overreact to things like this - calling it 'utterly terrible' is just hyperbole.

Why is it hyperbole? In my opinion, it is utterly terrible, and I wouldn't even consider buying a game that had anything like that in it, and I'm not even close to the only one.

Exactly why should they 'count themselves lucky'? Would the world have ended if they hadn't made it optional?

They would have lost sales over it, now that the community made enough noise to get them to change it, they will get a lot of those sales back.

 

[Veliko]

Why is it hyperbole? In my opinion, it is utterly terrible, and I wouldn't even consider buying a game that had anything like that in it, and I'm not even close to the only one.

If you think it is 'utterly terrible' then you have a complete lack of perspective.

They would have lost sales over it, now that the community made enough noise to get them to change it, they will get a lot of those sales back.

The people making the noise would be a tiny but very vocal group of players, most of whom would end up buying the game on release day anyway.

 

[motsm]

If you think it is 'utterly terrible' then you have a complete lack of perspective.

Lack of perspective? Utterly terrible is a relative phrase. Do you honestly think someone has no perspective if they said "That's utterly terrible" in reaction to 9/11, and then some years later said "That's utterly terrible" when they bit into a piece of past date cheese? It's context, and I don't really believe your dumb enough not to understand it, so knock off the trolling.

 

[Veliko]

Lack of perspective? Utterly terrible is a relative phrase. Do you honestly think someone has no perspective if they said "That's utterly terrible" in reaction to 9/11, and then some years later said "That's utterly terrible" when they bit into a piece of past date cheese? It's context, and I don't really believe your dumb enough not to understand it, so knock off the trolling.

I can't see any reasonable context where saying that this highlighting issue is 'utterly terrible' is anything but hyperbole.

 

[Blitzvogel]

The presentation of the game looks wonderful (and I will admit, presentation is one of those things I will actually think console games for), but it's painfully obvious the game is aimed to be more streamlined than anything. I'm willing to admit to liking the streamlining, as I'm more into story than anything in these story driven titles, but I just want to feel like I'm an idiot who needs his hand held the entire time.

 

[motsm]

I can't see any reasonable context where saying that this highlighting issue is 'utterly terrible' is anything but hyperbole.

You just seem to have an unnatural problem with the adjective terrible, for whatever reason. Have you ever bothered looking up some of it's uses?

"extremely bad; horrible: terrible coffee; a terrible movie."

I suppose the dictionaries harsh words towards coffee and movies is all entirely unreasonable, and full of hyperbole.

 

[Veliko]

You just seem to have an unnatural problem with the adjective terrible, for whatever reason. Have you ever bothered looking up some of it's uses?

"extremely bad; horrible: terrible coffee; a terrible movie."

I suppose the dictionaries harsh words towards coffee and movies is all entirely unreasonable, and full of hyperbole.

No, because when people say 'terrible movie' or 'terrible coffee' they mean in relation to other movies they have seen or coffees they have tasted.

What I have a problem with is people constantly taking the "OMG THIS IS THE WORST THING EVER" stance about every single little detail.

 

[motsm]

No, because when people say 'terrible movie' or 'terrible coffee' they mean in relation to other movies they have seen or coffees they have tasted.

I can't see any reasonable context where saying that this highlighting issue is 'utterly terrible' is anything but hyperbole.

So a movie can be terrible in the context of other movies, but a game feature can't be terrible in the context of other game features, got it.

I confirm mass amounts of trolling in this contradiction, so I'm done with this conversation.

 

[Veliko]

So a movie can be terrible in the context of other movies, but a game feature can't be terrible in the context of other game features, got it.

I confirm mass amounts of trolling in this contradiction, so I'm done with this conversation.

So what game feature are you comparing 'highlighting certain interactive objects' to in order to describe it as 'utterly terrible'?

 

[Raduque]

You know, I really don't have a problem with the highlighting.

The character you play is enhanced with cybernetic implants. It's not unconceivable that he'd have an implant or piece of software that would analyze what he's seeing and project the highlighting over interactable objects.

 

[mindcycle]

Yeah, I for one am glad they included the option to turn off the highlighting. IMO, it looked utterly terrible from the video I saw..

But, in all seriousness, i'll probably wait to pick this one up until some player reviews start showing up. I enjoyed the first two Deus Ex games back in the day but have a feeling this one might be just an attempt to cash in on the name. I'm really hoping it doesn't turn out being just another half-backed Mass Effect clone. I guess we'll see..