Detroit Body Collector: $14 a human body, $9 an animal. "I wish for somebody to die. That?s how I feed my babies.?

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DETROIT ? With all the spectacular ways to die in this dying city, the fate of a man named Allan was almost pathetic. There he lay, in a weedy lot on the notorious East Side, next to a liquor bottle, his pockets turned out.

But as it goes with such things, one man?s misery is another man?s money. The body retrievalist for the county morgue had arrived on the scene. He was happy. He sang strange little ditties. Cracked odd little jokes. Said things like: ?We got plenty of room in this here van, yes sir.?

Do not judge him. A happy attitude is necessary in his profession. It keeps the mind from shattering, salts one?s sanity. Call the job dirty. Call it 14 bucks the hard way ? $14 a human body, $9 an animal. He said he made $14,000 last year. He made most of it at night.

His tax forms officially read ?body technician.? Unofficially, Mike Thomas calls himself body snatcher, grim reaper, night stalker, bag man. Whatever you call it, it is one man?s life.

For Mr. Thomas, the demise of Allan was a cheerful occasion because, you see, work had been dead. There had been an odd lull in homicides, suicides and even natural passings here in one of the most violent American cities. It was the height of summer and people were supposed to be outside and killing each other, dropping dead from sunstroke, etc. Mr. Thomas wondered how he was going to feed his children the next week.

?I ain?t making nothing on these bodies,? he said on his porch, the screen door half gone. ?I know that?s kind of weird to hear; I mean waiting around for somebody to die. Wishing for somebody to die. But that?s how it is. That?s how I feed my babies.?


He is happy to have the job, there are so few in Detroit. Unemployment hovers around 14 percent, more than twice the national average, according to the United States Bureau of Labor Statistics. The slow death of the car industry has led to the slow death of the blue-collar Motor City and now the State of Michigan in general. About 300,000 jobs have disappeared from the state since 2000 and another 65,000 factory jobs are expected to be gone by next year. Mostly car-related jobs.

One of the few people working long hours most weeks, it seems, is Mr. Thomas.

There used to be money in Detroit. Known in the 50?s as the Paris of the Midwest, it had a population of 1.8 million, 83 percent white. It now has fewer than 900,000 and is 83 percent black. It is the poorest big city in the nation, with a third of the population living below the poverty line.

Detroit is an annual competitor for the ignominious title of Murder Capital. Last year there were 359 homicides. Halfway through this year, there were 220. There are about 10,000 unsolved homicides dating back to 1960.

Mr. Thomas, 34, subscribes to a simple theory: Unemployment leads to drugs. Drugs lead to misplaced passion. Misplaced passion leads to death. And that?s where he comes in.

?There?s 360 ways to die, and I done seen them all,? he said, dressed in black, waiting on a hot evening to be summoned to the latest body. ?I seen an old lady standing dead at her stove, her purse hanging on her elbow. I done picked up the pieces of a man who stepped in front of a train. I done picked up people just around this corner, here, from my house.?


People he knew. People from his neighborhood, like Steve, who Mr. Thomas said should have known better than to rob a stripper. Like a prophet on the hill, Mr. Thomas explained the meaning not of life, but of death to guys from the neighborhood congregated on the porch, who robbed the beer truck in the afternoon and so came bearing gifts.

?You see,? he begins, ?80 percent of people die naked and 70 percent die in the toilet. That means most people die naked in the toilet. I can?t explain it. It?s like Elvis. But as far as the afterlife goes, I believe through what I seen that those who commit horror and sin are doomed to repeat life, which is hell.?


He is a macabre observer of the economic times. Mr. Thomas and some of his workmates say they notice some disturbing trends. By midyear, 8,559 people had died in Wayne County, which includes Detroit, and more and more, technicians see bodies remaining in the cooler longer because family members don?t come to pick them up. They attribute this to the breakdown of family values as well as the lack of financial resources of people to bury their loved ones.

According to state statistics, the vast majority of homicides occur in the predominately black city, and the preponderance of suicides occur in the mostly white suburbs.

?My theory?? Mr. Thomas offered. ?White people kill themselves. Black people kill each other. Chinese people don?t die.?


?True, true,? shouted one young pilgrim, though no sighting of a white or Chinese man could be made within a 20-block radius of the porch.

Michael Thomas was born in rural Alabama in 1972 and moved with his family to Detroit a year later when Coleman A. Young was the city?s first black mayor. Like most people in the city ? black, white or Arab ? the Thomas family came for the factory jobs and achieved the middle-class life. Mr. Thomas grew up on the East Side, raised through his teenage years by a white stepfather, for whom he was always having to go to fists with the other black kids in the neighborhood. He is short and broad-shouldered.

After graduating from high school, Mr. Thomas was sent to prison at the age of 17 for carjacking. He served four years, kept to himself, got out safely and worked a string of hamburger jobs until his uncle connected him with the job at the morgue five years ago. He supports three children and has a fledgling rap career on the side. The autobiographical song ?Transporters? is a neat little trick that can be found on the Web (www.myspace.com/gangstaclyde).

?One thing my stepfather taught me was the value of work,? Mr. Thomas said on his way to another scene. ?A man who don?t have work don?t feel much like a man. A man without work, well, he takes the only way he can and that?s usually no good.?

A call came from the southwest side of town, with its Tudor style homes with brick and aluminum siding. A man had killed himself. He was white. Early 50?s. He had lost his job at the boat yard earlier that day, a detective said. He came home, drank himself into a depression and put a bullet in his head ? the second white man to kill himself this day.

It was a sad, quiet scene on the street. The man?s family standing there silently stunned. Cans of cheap beer in their hands.

Mr. Thomas was sanguine. ?We got plenty of room.?
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MichaelD

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That was a darn cool story. Sadly, it's the same story in many American cities these days.

The part where his friends robbed the beer truck then came to hang out...to them, this is the normal way of life. Stealing is normal. Fighting is normal. Drugs are normal. Getting shot is normal.

The problem w/America these days is that we have to stop the media from portraying that this is normal. When ShooBeeDee BigMoneyYo rapper releases his latest "song" sanctifying this type of behavior, it should be panned and decried by the media, not praised.

It's all because of gangsta rap music. Period. Eminem is from Detroit. Nuff said. :p
 

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Originally posted by: 0
There used to be money in Detroit. Known in the 50?s as the Paris of the Midwest, it had a population of 1.8 million, 83 percent white. It now has fewer than 900,000 and is 83 percent black. It is the poorest big city in the nation, with a third of the population living below the poverty line.

Not that we're proud of it, but doesn't Cleveland have that title? I can't wait to become the grim reaper here!
 

Goosemaster

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to bum: "hey man....how I buy you a half a dozen shots of motor oil so that I can go home early and still make a profit tonight?"
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: ScottSwingleComputers
My god....Detroit really is a 3rd world country, isn't it?

Yep. Everyone with money moved out 40 years ago. Bloomfield Hills is in the top 5 richest communities outside of California or Florida, and it's a 5-6 mile drive from the outskirts of Detroit.
 

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Sometimes I consider starting a thread about whether to leave Michigan or not. I'll get my pharmacy degree in 2008, and the gf will graduate from optometry school in 2010. I don't think I want to be around when GM and Ford go bankrupt. Pharmacies in Flint saw double digit percentage drops in scripts when GM went to mandatory mail-order.

edit: figured I could spell graduate and school :)
 

Kaido

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Well, I for one am glad there are jobs for people like that...
 

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There is are some nice areas around Detroit such as the Science Center, around Hart Plaza and Belle Isle are nice. But in the last few years they have closed the aquarium (was the oldest in the county) and the zoo which were both on Belle Isle. The Great Lakes Museum is really nice but again facing closure. Webcam of Detroit River and Windsor Comerica and Fox Theatre area are nice but even around GreekTown its becoming a dump.

I recall years around the Ohio river in Florence KY was freakin dump with old buildings, cars and empty garbage lots but now is a great place to go. A huge aquarium, lots of shopping and restaurants. But Detroit has been a really been a dump for decades. The city council is corrupt and never has the citys best interest at hand. Coleman Young was mayor for years and set the city back 20 years and they have never recovered.

EDIT: Detroit has just begun large bulk item trash pickup again. You can't drive by an empty lot without seeing (sp?) couchs, fridges, scrap metal and all kinds of crap that people dump there.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: tyler811
There is are some nice areas around Detroit such as the Science Center, around Hart Plaza and Belle Isle are nice. But in the last few years they have closed the aquarium (was the oldest in the county) and the zoo which were both on Belle Isle. The Great Lakes Museum is really nice but again facing closure. Webcam of Detroit River and Windsor Comerica and Fox Theatre area are nice but even around GreekTown its becoming a dump.

I recall years around the Ohio river in Florence KY was freakin dump with old buildings, cars and empty garbage lots but now is a great place to go. A huge aquarium, lots of shopping and restaurants. But Detroit has been a really been a dump for decades. The city council is corrupt and never has the citys best interest at hand. Coleman Young was mayor for years and set the city back 20 years and they have never recovered.

Kwame is doing his part to hurt Detroit now. But the people of Detroit know white people hate him, so they re-elect him. They'll show whitey! :roll:
 

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: tyler811
There is are some nice areas around Detroit such as the Science Center, around Hart Plaza and Belle Isle are nice. But in the last few years they have closed the aquarium (was the oldest in the county) and the zoo which were both on Belle Isle. The Great Lakes Museum is really nice but again facing closure. Webcam of Detroit River and Windsor Comerica and Fox Theatre area are nice but even around GreekTown its becoming a dump.

I recall years around the Ohio river in Florence KY was freakin dump with old buildings, cars and empty garbage lots but now is a great place to go. A huge aquarium, lots of shopping and restaurants. But Detroit has been a really been a dump for decades. The city council is corrupt and never has the citys best interest at hand. Coleman Young was mayor for years and set the city back 20 years and they have never recovered.

Kwame is doing his part to hurt Detroit now. But the people of Detroit know white people hate him, so they re-elect him. They'll show whitey! :roll:

Your right about Kwame Wiz, he is almost as bad as Coleman. Dennis Archer was a decent mayor but decided not to run again because of the corrupt city council. Every time he wanted to do something to head in the right direction, they fought him tooth and nail.
Its almost like they want the city to fail.
 

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Originally posted by: getbush
Sometimes I consider starting a thread about whether to leave Michigan or not. I'll get my pharmacy degree in 2008, and the gf will graduat from optometry scholl in 2010. I don't think I want to be around when GM and Ford go bankrupt. Pharmacies in Flint saw double digit percentage drops in scripts when GM went to mandatory mail-order.

Walgreens in Milwaukee was offering $40,000 sign on bonus (3 or 4 year commit...can't remember). Take your lumps, and your $40,000 and then GTFO.

As for the story...it's pretty crazy the price difference this guy gets paid over the crime scene cleanup guy. That guy charged over $100 an hour.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: getbush
Sometimes I consider starting a thread about whether to leave Michigan or not. I'll get my pharmacy degree in 2008, and the gf will graduat from optometry scholl in 2010. I don't think I want to be around when GM and Ford go bankrupt. Pharmacies in Flint saw double digit percentage drops in scripts when GM went to mandatory mail-order.

Walgreens in Milwaukee was offering $40,000 sign on bonus (3 or 4 year commit...can't remember). Take your lumps, and your $40,000 and then GTFO.

As for the story...it's pretty crazy the price difference this guy gets paid over the crime scene cleanup guy. That guy charged over $100 an hour.

Crime scene cleanup companies only hire moonlighting nurses and EMTs. I looked into it.
 

MichaelD

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: getbush
Sometimes I consider starting a thread about whether to leave Michigan or not. I'll get my pharmacy degree in 2008, and the gf will graduat from optometry scholl in 2010. I don't think I want to be around when GM and Ford go bankrupt. Pharmacies in Flint saw double digit percentage drops in scripts when GM went to mandatory mail-order.

Walgreens in Milwaukee was offering $40,000 sign on bonus (3 or 4 year commit...can't remember). Take your lumps, and your $40,000 and then GTFO.

As for the story...it's pretty crazy the price difference this guy gets paid over the crime scene cleanup guy. That guy charged over $100 an hour.

Crime scene cleanup companies only hire moonlighting nurses and EMTs. I looked into it.

Seriously? :confused: Why would you want to do that? I mean...I'm sure the $$$ is good, but ewwwww!
 

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Originally posted by: getbush
Sometimes I consider starting a thread about whether to leave Michigan or not. I'll get my pharmacy degree in 2008, and the gf will graduat from optometry scholl in 2010. I don't think I want to be around when GM and Ford go bankrupt. Pharmacies in Flint saw double digit percentage drops in scripts when GM went to mandatory mail-order.

If your up in Flint, runaway fast lol. Flint has a crime rate worse then Detroit and looks twice as bad. But south of Flint (I live between the two) is actually quite nice. If you can find jobs in Genesee county I would live there. Low taxes and some good school districts can found most anywhere. We stayed in northern Oakland county because the school system is one of the better ones in the state but the taxes are a killer. For what we bought our house for 2 years ago, we could have bought the same size house with 3-4 acres (we have 3/4 acre). But we live on a lake and love the area.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: tyler811
Originally posted by: getbush
Sometimes I consider starting a thread about whether to leave Michigan or not. I'll get my pharmacy degree in 2008, and the gf will graduat from optometry scholl in 2010. I don't think I want to be around when GM and Ford go bankrupt. Pharmacies in Flint saw double digit percentage drops in scripts when GM went to mandatory mail-order.

If your up in Flint, runaway fast lol. Flint has a crime rate worse then Detroit and looks twice as bad. But south of Flint (I live between the two) acualy quite nice. If you can find jobs in Genesee county I would live there. Low taxes and some good school districts can found most anywhere. We stayed in northern Oakland county because the school system is one of the better ones in the state but the taxes are a killer. For what we bought our house for 2 years ago, we could have bought the same size house with 3-4 acres (we have 3/4 acre). But we live on a lake and love the area.

What lake? You will definately pay out the nose for lake life, especially with almost an acre.

 

getbush

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I'm not in FLint, just an example. The 3 schools are Wayne State, Ferris State and U of M. I'm at one fo those (not Wayne State :) )
 

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?White people kill themselves. Black people kill each other. Chinese people don?t die.?

freaking sig worthy! bwhahhaa
 

tyler811

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: tyler811
Originally posted by: getbush
Sometimes I consider starting a thread about whether to leave Michigan or not. I'll get my pharmacy degree in 2008, and the gf will graduat from optometry scholl in 2010. I don't think I want to be around when GM and Ford go bankrupt. Pharmacies in Flint saw double digit percentage drops in scripts when GM went to mandatory mail-order.

If your up in Flint, runaway fast lol. Flint has a crime rate worse then Detroit and looks twice as bad. But south of Flint (I live between the two) acualy quite nice. If you can find jobs in Genesee county I would live there. Low taxes and some good school districts can found most anywhere. We stayed in northern Oakland county because the school system is one of the better ones in the state but the taxes are a killer. For what we bought our house for 2 years ago, we could have bought the same size house with 3-4 acres (we have 3/4 acre). But we live on a lake and love the area.

What lake? You will definately pay out the nose for lake life, especially with almost an acre.



Private lake

No public access means low boater use and nooo fishing pressure :thumbsup:

We are catching some huge bass and pike

The only access is fenced and locked. I am both Zuul and Vinz Clortho :laugh: