Detained for speaking Spanish, lawsuit ensues

[ch33zw1z]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna971716

I find this article to be especially poignant. It epitomizes racial stereotyping that happens regularly in our country.

I hope the U.S. citizens who committed the offense of speaking Spanish win the lawsuit.

 

[feralkid]

Jesus wept.

What a maroon.

Or garden variety Trumpcake.

 

[interchange]

We're only given one side of the story, but I personally can't imagine the detainment as presented here to be constitutional. Speaking Spanish can't be reasonable suspicion of being an undocumented immigrant.

 

[ch33zw1z]

We're only given one side of the story, but I personally can't imagine the detainment as presented here to be constitutional. Speaking Spanish can't be reasonable suspicion of being an undocumented immigrant.

Watch the video. He actually says he detained them for speaking Spanish, verbatim.

 

[ecogen]

Watch the video. He actually says he detained them for speaking Spanish, verbatim.

Yeah, but what did he mean?

 

[cytg111]

@SlowSpyder Some more *data* to feed to your fact negating aparatus.

 

[zinfamous]

@SlowSpyder Some more *data* to feed to your fact negating aparatus.

well, I hate to defend Slow, but let's be fair here: that sketchy Spanish-speaker was almost certainly smuggling in some American-killing cigarettes.

 

[K1052]

CBP authority should start and stop right at the border, not extend 100 miles into the interior.

 

[DarthKyrie]

I'm a pasty white guy who can speak broken Spanish, are they going to detain me now?

 

[BurnItDwn]

I wish I was fluent in Spanish as I would speak Spanish all the time just to mess with people.

 

[dawp]

we should try an experiment,

3 sets of people, have them speak 3 tongues, spanish, french or german and mandarin in the presence of border patrol agents and see who get stopped and questioned.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Well, we don't have a declared national language, so it's rather hard to detain someone based on language.

But god damn, someone speaking Spanish in Montana? Sheeeeet - that's gotta be hard to find Hell, it's hard to find people in general in Montana haha.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Based on the video, looks like he asked for valid identification - Is that out of the ordinary?

I'm mainly asking because whenever I've driven from Texas to Arizona (long ass road trip along I10) I have a few times come across immigration based stops where they ask for identification and ask where I'm going, etc... How is this much different?

 

[DarthKyrie]

Well, we don't have a declared national language, so it's rather hard to detain someone based on language.

But god damn, someone speaking Spanish in Montana? Sheeeeet - that's gotta be hard to find Hell, it's hard to find people in general in Montana haha.

You do know that Montana was part of Mexico up until we stole that land from them right? The name Montana comes from the Spanish word Montaña, which in turn comes from the Latin word Montanea, meaning "mountain", or more broadly, "mountainous country". I can't imagine why there would be Spanish speakers in a place that has spoken Spanish for over 300 years.

I think someone needs to study up on the history of this damn country. Throughout the Mississippi and Missouri River valleys, you are going to find people that speak French, French Creole, and Spanish as well. You will hear German spoken in certain parts of this country, mostly the upper Midwest and parts of Pennsylvania. In Minnesota, you will hear people speaking Nordic languages.

Anywhere west of the western boundary of Louisiana Purchase territory was all Spanish Territory before the Mexican-American War that was triggered by white settlers in the Mexican state of Tejas declaring themselves a Republic and then they begged the US government for help when they were losing the war they started.

 

[feralkid]

You do know that Montana was part of Mexico up until we stole that land from them right? The name Montana comes from the Spanish word Montaña, which in turn comes from the Latin word Montanea, meaning "mountain", or more broadly, "mountainous country". I can't imagine why there would be Spanish speakers in a place that has spoken Spanish for over 300 years.

I think someone needs to study up on the history of this damn country. Throughout the Mississippi and Missouri River valleys, you are going to find people that speak French, French Creole, and Spanish as well. You will hear German spoken in certain parts of this country, mostly the upper Midwest and parts of Pennsylvania. In Minnesota, you will hear people speaking Nordic languages.

Anywhere west of the western boundary of Louisiana Purchase territory was all Spanish Territory before the Mexican-American War that was triggered by white settlers in the Mexican state of Tejas declaring themselves a Republic and then they begged the US government for help when they were losing the war they started.

Amen, Brother.

 

[feralkid]

Based on the video, looks like he asked for valid identification - Is that out of the ordinary?

I'm mainly asking because whenever I've driven from Texas to Arizona (long ass road trip along I10) I have a few times come across immigration based stops where they ask for identification and ask where I'm going, etc... How is this much different?

Because it's a check-point, where they stop everyone.

That's a bit different , Constitutionally, than singling out individuals, capisce?

 

[Meghan54]

Based on the video, looks like he asked for valid identification - Is that out of the ordinary?

I'm mainly asking because whenever I've driven from Texas to Arizona (long ass road trip along I10) I have a few times come across immigration based stops where they ask for identification and ask where I'm going, etc... How is this much different?

I dunno. I suppose going through checkpoints like you did is exactly the same as being accosted for speaking Spanish while shopping in a convenience store. Yep, exactly the same.