Despite Warnings, Washington Failed to Fund Levee Projects 9-4-05

dmcowen674

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This is what everyone here in New Orleans already knew.

There was a series of articles done just three weeks before the storm hit.

The money was sent to Iraq.

I'm sure the rabid folks on here still would've rather spent the money on the false war than here at home.

Will the sheeple learn from this and wake up??? Only time will tell.

9-4-2005 Despite Warnings, Washington Failed to Fund Levee Projects

In late May, the New Orleans district of the Army Corps of Engineers formally notified Washington that hurricane storm surges could knock out two of the big pumping stations that must operate night and day even under normal conditions to keep the city dry.

Also, the Corps said, several levees had settled and would soon need to be raised. And it reminded Washington that an ambitious flood-control study proposed four years before remained just that ? a written proposal never put into action for lack of funding.

In May, Al Naomi, the Corps' senior project manager for the New Orleans district, reminded political and business leaders and emergency management officials that a Category 4 or 5 hurricane was always possible. After that meeting, Walter Brooks, the regional planning commission director, came away shaking his head.

"We've learned that we're not as safe as we thought we were," he told the local newspaper, the Times-Picayune.

 

Deudalus

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Come on Dave, you live just outside of New Orleans.

How many million did the New Orleans School Board lose last year? Was it 8 million dollars lost, I mean stolen, while they have some of the worst schools in the country?

Bush milked this fund. Clinton milked this fund.

Mayor Nagin didn't pay attention to this problem because he had bigger problems to deal with in the city.

Governor Blanco was too busy giving her self a fat raise and trying to find money to pay the Louisiana school teachers rather than worry about this problem.

Marc Morial's the former mayor was investigated and raided by the FBI as was 90% of his family. His father was mayor before him and he was worse.

We just had a federal judge indicted for bribery and racketeering.

Our congressman's home, office, and D.C. home were all raided by the FBI on suspect of embezzlement.

You are from the area, I hope you aren't going to turn this into a political scandal as well.

They have known about this potential disaster since the mid 60's when Camille hit and NO ONE did anything about it and NOT ONE of our elected officials cared because they were too busy stealing tax payer's money to solve any problems.

Mayor Nagin has been the first mayor of New Orleans in a long time that hasn't been this way, but he was too little too late.
 

ntdz

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When the govt is running a $500 billion deficit, things get cut. Unfortunetly, this one came back to bite them.
 

totalcommand

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Originally posted by: ntdz
When the govt is running a $500 billion deficit, things get cut. Unfortunetly, this one came back to bite them.


this man speaks the truth.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Deudalus
Come on Dave, you live just outside of New Orleans.

How many million did the New Orleans School Board lose last year? Was it 8 million dollars lost, I mean stolen, while they have some of the worst schools in the country?

Bush milked this fund. Clinton milked this fund.

Mayor Nagin didn't pay attention to this problem because he had bigger problems to deal with in the city.

Governor Blanco was too busy giving her self a fat raise and trying to find money to pay the Louisiana school teachers rather than worry about this problem.

Marc Morial's the former mayor was investigated and raided by the FBI as was 90% of his family. His father was mayor before him and he was worse.

We just had a federal judge indicted for bribery and racketeering.

Our congressman's home, office, and D.C. home were all raided by the FBI on suspect of embezzlement.

You are from the area, I hope you aren't going to turn this into a political scandal as well.

They have known about this potential disaster since the mid 60's when Camille hit and NO ONE did anything about it and NOT ONE of our elected officials cared because they were too busy stealing tax payer's money to solve any problems.

Mayor Nagin has been the first mayor of New Orleans in a long time that hasn't been this way, but he was too little too late.

I'm not disputing the infamous local and State corruption.

The levees are everyone's responsibility and they blew it.
 

nergee

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Originally posted by: ntdz
When the govt is running a $500 billion deficit, things get cut. Unfortunetly, this one came back to bite them.

With that kind of deficit it doesn't seem like there is much cutting going on.........
but apparently there is.........
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
The money was sent to Iraq.

Stop right there. Where is your evidence to back up sh!t like that?

And just who do you blame for the lack of preparedness in LA? Oh, wait, I think I know the answer to that one already.
 

Deudalus

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I'm not disputing the infamous local and State corruption.

The levees are everyone's responsibility and they blew it.

So it isn't Bush's fault that they ignored a problem for almost 40 years as your original post suggests?

I'm just curious, because everyone else around here seems to think that it is.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: ntdz
When the govt is running a $500 billion deficit, things get cut. Unfortunetly, this one came back to bite them.

still plenty of pork to go around.
 

rustynails

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You're such a hack. Why dont you post the news story that shows how these funds have been denied far back into the Cigar smokin administration. At least this one gave you 40 mil. Go back home donkey lover. BTW dave, how many blacks did you pick-up on your way-out, you foney....

That being said, dust control on arkansa highways if far more important, after all we all know who lingers there.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: Pabster

What a surprise...

We're not talking about the cost of the Iraq war here.

I'd like to see concrete evidence that funding for levy repair in New Orleans was diverted to Iraq for the war, as so many of you have suggested.


Regardless, I would have rather the money have been wasted here than WASTED in Iraq! :)

My tax dollars at work! :)
 

mc6809e

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I'm not disputing the infamous local and State corruption. The levees are everyone's responsibility and they blew it.

No they aren't everyone's responsibility. They are New Orleans and Louisiana's responsibility.

If they can afford over $300 million for a new convention center expansion, they can put some money up for the levees.

A week or two before all this, Governor Blanco was actually negotiating a deal to combine the expansion of the convention center with a new stadium!

Apparently they don't mind paying millions for circuses, but fund the levees? Oh, that's the federal governments job, apparently.

It's a bunch of bullcrap. They wanted to pass the job off of paying to keep the levees up to the rest of the united states so they could pay for more entertainment.

Is it any wonder they screwed up the evacuation too? They're a bunch of idiots.

 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: Pabster

What a surprise...

We're not talking about the cost of the Iraq war here.

I'd like to see concrete evidence that funding for levy repair in New Orleans was diverted to Iraq for the war, as so many of you have suggested.


Tell us why we are running such a HUGE deficit? Where does it all go?

War is not free --
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Pabster

What a surprise...

We're not talking about the cost of the Iraq war here.

I'd like to see concrete evidence that funding for levy repair in New Orleans was diverted to Iraq for the war, as so many of you have suggested.


Tell us why we are running such a HUGE deficit? Where does it all go?

War is not free --


The Iraq war is a small portion of the current yearly deficit. We currently have a bunch of spending whores in DC that love to cut taxes AND increase spending. Bush also has not VETOed a single spending bill including the pork in the highway bill and energy bill. Spending is out of control, but deficits don't matter (as coined by Reagan and repeated by Cheney).
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: nergee
The score on spending bill veto's....Reagan 22....Bush Jr......ZERO.......

Let's analyze why.

Reagan had a Democratic congress his entire term, while Bush has had an Republican congress nearly his entire term. What do you expect?
 

Hacp

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What about the Highway bill? Couldn't they have canceled those projects to nowhere to help New Orleans? :(

Hindsight is always easy.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: nergee
The score on spending bill veto's....Reagan 22....Bush Jr......ZERO.......

Let's analyze why.

Reagan had a Democratic congress his entire term, while Bush has had an Republican congress nearly his entire term. What do you expect?

Bush to run the largest "monetary" budgets in the US history (not adjusted for inflation), including pork programs such as Medicare Prescription Drugs Bill, Energy bill laden with tax cuts for BIG OIL (which are already rolling in billions profits), special projects galore, and ohhhhh yes, money for wars.

Also look that discressionary domestic spending has increased over 28% under Bush while revenue is just now starting to catch up, due to the billions given in tax breaks.

Of course, that's what I expected coming from a "conservative" president. Didn't you?
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: Hacp
What about the Highway bill? Couldn't they have canceled those projects to nowhere to help New Orleans? :(

Hindsight is always easy.

Highway bill funded by gasoline taxes designated originally for highway projects. War money for Iraq never budgeted. No end in sight on that one.

 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: nergee
The score on spending bill veto's....Reagan 22....Bush Jr......ZERO.......

Let's analyze why.

Reagan had a Democratic congress his entire term, while Bush has had an Republican congress nearly his entire term. What do you expect?
Fiscal conservatism . . . oops nevermind . . . that requires a President that can count.

For people that question the federal role in NO levees, can you explain the $229M bridge to nowhere in Alaska?

 

TRUMPHENT

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Originally posted by: Hacp
What about the Highway bill? Couldn't they have canceled those projects to nowhere to help New Orleans? :(

Hindsight is always easy.

Correct me if I'm wrong. A bill passes and it becomes law? It will take another bill to change the previous. The pork is already in the fryin' pan.

 

slyedog

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these warning started comming in around 1984. and everyone in Louisiana knew this long before that. fifty years ago i heard the tale abt everybody was supposed to keep an axe in the attic. the bowl thing is nothing new. but it finally happened. but of course dave has been in Louisiana abt a year and he knows everything abt La. and how it is Bush who
drowned all the people in New Orleans. but i am glad he survived the storm. i think his area was hit pretty hard.
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc

For people that question the federal role in NO levees, can you explain the $229M bridge to nowhere in Alaska?

But those 50 people are in such desperate need! I mean, they have to ferry over currently! :roll:

It sure would be nice if Bush would start using his veto on these bills.