Desktop socket 479 boards

[Liver]

With Yonah out do you know / think there will be any more choices for desktop socket 479 motherboards?

Or do you think using a socket 479 chip would now almost require using the CT-479 adapter?

Also, do you know of the source on how to mod the adapter? Apparently there is a modification out there, but I am unable to find it. A modded one was posted in the for sale / trade forum, but the seller did not / would not give me any information to mod my own.

Thanks

 

[Wentelteefje]

Well, AOpen already sells one... So maybe there are more to come... After all, these chips perform very good... Imagine DFI or EPoX making such a board... :Q

There are some restrictions about using the adapter, but all in all, it's actually a pretty good way to make a Pentium M fit into your Asus mobo...

BTW, I only know of ASRock having S478 mobo's with PCIe, so that could be a disadvantage...

What modding are you talking about?

 

[Liver]

Yea, the chips are awesome. Low heat and high performance, great starting specs. The mod I am talking about is done to the adapter to help in overclocking. Other than that I do not know. I have searched for CT-479 mods, but no luck. Found good stuff on an "extreme - something" website.

 

[boshuter]

The mods you are talking about are the "Hipro" mods. You can find them on XtremeSystems.org forums in the modding section.

 

[Liver]

Originally posted by: boshuter
The mods you are talking about are the "Hipro" mods. You can find them on XtremeSystems.org forums in the modding section.

you the man, exactly what I wanted to research.:thumbsup:

 

[Peter]

Thing is, spending this much money for the expensive Pentium-M platform is highly pointless - if you look at the real power numbers.

Dothan CPU: 27W, i915 northbridge 15W - both "max" figures.

Half as much money buys you a system with a plain normal Athlon-64 "Venice" core (real world maximum power consumption 30W for a 3500+), with those 30W already including the RAM controller, and unlike Intel's desktop offerings, actual power-saving technology Cool&Quiet. You also have an actual choice on mainboards and other components, totally unlike on socket-479

 

[Liver]

Originally posted by: Peter
Thing is, spending this much money for the expensive Pentium-M platform is highly pointless - if you look at the real power numbers.

Dothan CPU: 27W, i915 northbridge 15W - both "max" figures.

Half as much money buys you a system with a plain normal Athlon-64 "Venice" core (real world maximum power consumption 30W for a 3500+), with those 30W already including the RAM controller, and unlike Intel's desktop offerings, actual power-saving technology Cool&Quiet. You also have an actual choice on mainboards and other components, totally unlike on socket-479

Wow. I need to look into this more. Recommendations on good place to get the real power consumptions for a variety of processors?

 

[tcsenter]

Wow. I need to look into this more. Recommendations on good place to get the real power consumptions for a variety of processors?

AMD and Intel both publicly release datasheets for their processors which include all the electrical and thermal data you could ever want.

AMD > Support > Tech Docs > Processor Datasheets

Intel > Support > Tech Docs > Processor Datasheets

 

[Peter]

Wherein AMD's power figures are thermal design ceilings for an entire series of processors. This number is what AMD want you to consider when you design a cooling concept that is to cover _any_ CPU that might ever appear for this platform. When you limit yourself to a certain processor, you can aim much lower.

Pay e.g. Lost Circuits a visit to see their _measured_ results of how little power the AMD processors _actually_ draw, and what a huge headroom there is to said thermal design values.

http://www.lostcircuits.com/cpu/amd_venice/

Even the worst case in single cores, 2.4 GHz Clawhammer 4000+, couldn't be made to draw more than 72 watts, where a Venice of the same clock speed (3800+) hardly ever hits 30W.
The thermal design power you'll find in the datasheets is 89W for both.