Describe to how Obama is a Marxist/Socialist

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Lifer
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I keep hearing this tossed around, so for the conservative members of the board would you describe this - and how it's bad for our country.
 

nageov3t

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if he were half the socialist republicans claim, we'd be better off.

it seems like the only ideology that Obama holds himself to is the advancement of Obama... he's been in the public spotlight for 4+ years now and I still couldn't tell you what he *wouldn't* sacrifice to score a political victory.
 
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PieIsAwesome

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I will gladly explain to you how Obama is a Marxist/Socialist, just as soon as I finish grabbing this last straw I am grasping at.
 

yllus

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Socialism is hardly the curse word American "conservatives" try to make it out to be. Marxism on the other hand is something to be avoided and rejected at all costs.
 

Daedalus685

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Sure he is.. just let me ask some of the conservative MPs in Canada that would sit farther to the left of Mr Obama....

It is all about perspective.. he is certainly farther left wing than many US politicians.... but beyond the social issues (doesn't care about the sex lives or abortions of he population) he would fall rather right of what most countries describe as socialist. Seems like many politicians in this world are the same BS wrapped in a different "vote for me I hate/don't hate group B" cloth...

If he were a socialist you guys would have single payer health care :p
 

Danube

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Obama thinks people should serve government and not the other way around. He lamented that the Constitution didn't give gov power to redistribute wealth and enact "economic justice".

Of course those ideas are at the core of Marxism along with some others.

The Constitution purposely limited government to maximize freedom from gov. Obama resents this and that was a good enough reason not to vote for him.

One of the dumbest elections in world history never mind US history.
 

mizzou

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"The People" of the majority vote in commodant Obama. Then this person is said to represent "the common man's interest"

This is all a play against the ruling elite, the educated and wealthy landowners
 

Zebo

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Describe how he isn't... ;)

That aint no problem.

Back room deals with his insurance buddies to make people buy insurance no public option.
Back room deals with his pharma buddies to never negotiate drug prices which even the smallest HMO does.
Back room revolving door appointments like Salazer who doesnt even make BP do environmental assessment reports of deepest well ever, just drill baby drill.
Three bank bailout packages from poor tax payers to rich crookster bankers.
Credit card bill with no teeth just for consumer consumption.
Illegal immigration at behest of Chamber of Commerce who wants you to have zero labor rights thus lets increase supply of labor to infinity.
and so on.

Everything he does hurts the little guy and helps the powerful. Hardly a socialist let alone Marxist.
 
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colonel

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they dont even know what is socialist/Marxism/socialism/anarchist/fascism, they want to trash the President.
 

CallMeJoe

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Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck all say he's a Marxist/Socialist/Communist, so it must be true...
 

Jhhnn

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Obama thinks people should serve government and not the other way around. He lamented that the Constitution didn't give gov power to redistribute wealth and enact "economic justice".

Of course those ideas are at the core of Marxism along with some others.

The Constitution purposely limited government to maximize freedom from gov. Obama resents this and that was a good enough reason not to vote for him.

One of the dumbest elections in world history never mind US history.

Link up a quote for us, OK? Not from WND or similar, please....
 

bamacre

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Jul 1, 2004
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He's not a socialist nor a Marxist. He's a corporatist. And the reason the Republicans aren't calling him that is because they are the same. Most Americans really don't understand any of those words anyway.

It is sad though, because the Obama administration can easily defend itself from socialism and Marxism, and they don't even have to defend the corporatist claim.
 

MovingTarget

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Obama is not a socialist/marxist. If you want to find out why, your first source should be the actual socialist/communist parties that do exist here in the USA. Of course, those who scream commie all the time won't click on them 'red links'. Ugh...troll thread trolls well...
 

ProfJohn

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Obama is a European socialist.

I think he would be very happy if the US become a bit more like Europe.

Single payer healthcare ala Europe.
Large activist government that is involved in multiple aspects of your life.
etc etc
 

Infohawk

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Obama is a European socialist.

I think he would be very happy if the US become a bit more like Europe.

Single payer healthcare ala Europe.
Large activist government that is involved in multiple aspects of your life.
etc etc

Even in Europe, many of the right-wing parties support public healthcare. He would not be a socialist in Euope.