DeSantis is now into human trafficking

[PlanetJosh]

Canada border fence would also become a thing for Repugs.

Yes and countries like Russia would be happy to send private contractors to Canada to work out ways to breach holes in the fence, to scale it or otherwise physically damage it. Same with a completed southern fence. I prefer to see things brought to the brink of international war. If not from a border crisis then from some other controversial issue.

 

[pcgeek11]

Can you tell us why you feel you need to lie?

Show me where I lied specifically.

 

[pcgeek11]

So you have no answers, typical.

Shutting down the legal ports of entry and making it very difficult to cross the border at those points and present their case is what drives human trafficking. You know the policies the Trump administration put into place.

So what is driving it now since the democrats have opened the border with no restraints?

 

[ivwshane]

Show me where I lied specifically.

You said the National guard was used to move these immigrants, they were not and I already showed you. I didn’t claim you said they were deported, that was a straw man by you.

 

[Sunburn74]

So what is driving it now since the democrats have opened the border with no restraints?

This is news to me. No restraints? I haven't noticed the imminent collapse of society so either you're lying or what you're worried about was imaginary.

 

[pcgeek11]

You said the National guard was used to move these immigrants, they were not and I already showed you. I didn’t claim you said they were deported, that was a straw man by you.

Emilie Ikeda

@EmilieIkedaNBC

HAPPENING NOW: Migrants, flown into Martha’s Vineyard by Fl’s governor, are boarding buses. They’ll be heading to Joint Base Cape Cod, according to officials. 125 Mass National Guard members are being activated to assist.
@NBCNews

NBC News reported the National Guard were assisting. That is why I asked the question why the National Guard was needed at all for a mere 50 cooperative individuals. I guess I could have worded it differently for those of you that have issues understanding English.

Why did they need the National Guard to move 50 cooperative migrants?

That wasn't or never was a lie.

I guess I could have said:

Why did they need to call up the National Guard so that the Islanders could move 50 cooperative migrants off the island.

 

[pcgeek11]

You said the National guard was used to move these immigrants, they were not and I already showed you. I didn’t claim you said they were deported, that was a straw man by you.

It was in the Politifact Article you linked. So yes you did bring deported into the thread.

 

[pcgeek11]

This is news to me. No restraints? I haven't noticed the imminent collapse of society so either you're lying or what you're worried about was imaginary.

No one said anything about imminent collapse of society. So you can reclaim your lying comment.

If you think there are restraints for entry at the border you are delusional. Just look at the numbers coming in. The Drugs, the gotaways and human smuggling.

 

[fskimospy]

No one said anything about imminent collapse of society. So you can reclaim your lying comment.

If you think there are restraints for entry at the border you are delusional. Just look at the numbers coming in. The Drugs, the gotaways and human smuggling.

What’s funny is you routinely cite all the figures of the border patrol arresting people and now claim there are no restraints. Stop being ridiculous.

There are huge restraints in place. If you want more, talk to republicans who keep voting against them. Don’t just pretend they don’t exist though.

 

[ivwshane]

Lol your citation is a Twitter post?!! What a fucking clown you are.

If you actually read the the reports/articles the Governor claimed he was going to enlist the help of the National guard. However, as I showed you, they weren’t used to move the asylum seekers as you claimed and continue to dishonestly claim.

This kind of shit is why people think you are a piece of Shit, because when presented with facts you back peddle, move the goal posts or outright lie.

I thought there was hope for you but it’s pretty clear you are deeply indoctrinated into right wing propaganda (your reliance on them as your sources only helps to prove that point).

 

[MrSquished]

There are no restraints on the border? So no checkpoints? No border crossing waits? No border patrol?

HOLY SHIT GUYS THIS IS CRAZY!

It's amazing how much these people continue to spout this propaganda nonsense. It's beyond dangerous at this point. They are all our enemy. At best they are early stage Nazis but most of them are mid-stage Nazis. I mean anybody who would consider voting for Trump again is definitely mid-stage Nazi. That's tens and tens of millions of Americans are basically on their way to becoming full Nazis.

 

[iRONic]

There are no restraints on the border? So no checkpoints? No border crossing waits? No border patrol?

HOLY SHIT GUYS THIS IS CRAZY!

It's amazing how much these people continue to spout this propaganda nonsense. It's beyond dangerous at this point. They are all our enemy. At best they are early stage Nazis but most of them are mid-stage Nazis. I mean anybody who would consider voting for Trump again is definitely mid-stage Nazi. That's tens and tens of millions of Americans are basically on their way to becoming full Nazis.

Fake news?
Federal authorities are on pace to make more than 2.3 million arrests during the 2022 fiscal year, which ends Sept. 30. That will far exceed last year’s record of more than 1.7 million arrests.

 

[Lanyap]

You mean like the Texas National Guard that closed and locked a border gate and the Federal Authorities overrode them and opened the gate?

Video shows border agents calmly unlocking gates to let in migrants

Drone video footage obtained by Fox News initially showed more than a dozen unsure-looking immigrants standing behind a locked gate on the Texas border.

nypost.com

Border Patrol accused of violating protocol by allowing migrants in through fence on private land

The Border Patrol's unlocking of a fence gate on the Texas-Mexico border to let a group of illegal immigrants on private land was a violation of protocol,

www.washingtonexaminer.com

The BP officers were just doing their job. The migrants had crossed the river and were on US soil without authorization. BP was taking them into custody to be processed. NYP, WE and Fox are making a big deal out of nothing.

Brandon Judd, president of the National Border Patrol Council, maintained that agents did nothing wrong by unlocking the gate because “once someone enters illegally whether on private property or not, we must take them into custody.”

Here, you can watch Fox & Friends get all excited about this.

 

[Lanyap]

Ladies and gentlemen, we now have Flightgate.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/flightgate-continues-prosecutors-alleged-fraud-211919399.html

 

[ivwshane]

Fake news?
Federal authorities are on pace to make more than 2.3 million arrests during the 2022 fiscal year, which ends Sept. 30. That will far exceed last year’s record of more than 1.7 million arrests.

It was a similar case under Obama as well. At this point it’s just right wing propaganda designed to rile up the base. It’s much easier to keep them “loyal” if they have an “other” to fear and be angry about. Immigrants are this centuries Jews for republicans.

 

[woolfe9998]

Don't want to start another DeSantis thread, so I'll just drop this shit here.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2022/09/24/desantis-american-revolution-slavery-sot-van-jones-reax-cnt-vpx.cnn

DeSantis claims that there was no abolition movement until the War of Independence because the DOI had said "all men are created equal." That and becoming a democracy is, according to him, what got us first thinking about ending slavery. In the video I linked, Van Jones points out that the slaves themselves had always questioned it, which is correct, but incomplete. Also the Quakers opposed it from the moment they arrived here. And there was a small abolition movement outside the Quakers going back to at least 1750.

And of course, the practice ended in Europe long before it ended here. It had to have been questioned in Europe or they wouldn't have ended it. Which is odd, given DeSantis statement, since these were still monarchies when they ended the practice. We became a democracy in 1776, and took another 89 years to end it. Because racism was deeply ingrained in white culture here, more than in Europe. That explains why a democracy takes 89 years to end slavery, while totalitarian monachies across the Atlantic ended it centuries before.

This is what happens when partisan assholes who know nothing about history decide to comment on history.

 

[Viper1j]

Don't want to start another DeSantis thread, so I'll just drop this shit here.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2022/09/24/desantis-american-revolution-slavery-sot-van-jones-reax-cnt-vpx.cnn

DeSantis claims that there was no abolition movement until the War of Independence because the DOI had said "all men are created equal." That and becoming a democracy is, according to him, what got us first thinking about ending slavery. In the video I linked, Van Jones points out that the slaves themselves had always questioned it, which is correct, but incomplete. Also the Quakers opposed it from the moment they arrived here. And there was a small abolition movement outside the Quakers going back to at least 1750.

And of course, the practice ended in Europe long before it ended here. It had to have been questioned in Europe or they wouldn't have ended it. Which is odd, given DeSantis statement, since these were still monarchies when they ended the practice. We became a democracy in 1776, and took another 89 years to end it. Because racism was deeply ingrained in white culture here, more than in Europe. That explains why a democracy takes 89 years to end slavery, while totalitarian monachies across the Atlantic ended it centuries before.

This is what happens when partisan assholes who know nothing about history decide to comment on history.

I'm sure the enslaved would like a word with Ronny.

 

[eelw]

It’s estimated of all arrests at the southern border, 30% are repeat offenders.

 

[Pens1566]

No one said anything about imminent collapse of society. So you can reclaim your lying comment.

If you think there are restraints for entry at the border you are delusional. Just look at the numbers coming in. The Drugs, the gotaways and human smuggling.

We really need a clown shoes emoji ...

 

[ivwshane]

We really need a clown shoes emoji ...

Well he live on the border so he’s seen it personally. He’s certainly not saying this stuff because his information bubble is dominated by right wing sources that lie to him and have even said as much either publicly or in court.

 

[fskimospy]

We really need a clown shoes emoji ...

The best part is he’s like ‘there are no restraints on the border’ and when you ask him to support it he references all the people we are arresting and all the drugs being seized. I bet those people feel restrained!

 

[Pens1566]

The best part is he’s like ‘there are no restraints on the border’ and when you ask him to support it he references all the people we are arresting and all the drugs being seized. I bet those people feel restrained!

What's even funnier is that my daily professional life involves millions of examples directly refuting his statement. And it has for the last ~4yrs ...

 

[cytg111]

It was a similar case under Obama as well. At this point it’s just right wing propaganda designed to rile up the base. It’s much easier to keep them “loyal” if they have an “other” to fear and be angry about. Immigrants are this centuries Jews for republicans.

True this

 

[cytg111]

Don't want to start another DeSantis thread, so I'll just drop this shit here.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2022/09/24/desantis-american-revolution-slavery-sot-van-jones-reax-cnt-vpx.cnn

DeSantis claims that there was no abolition movement until the War of Independence because the DOI had said "all men are created equal." That and becoming a democracy is, according to him, what got us first thinking about ending slavery. In the video I linked, Van Jones points out that the slaves themselves had always questioned it, which is correct, but incomplete. Also the Quakers opposed it from the moment they arrived here. And there was a small abolition movement outside the Quakers going back to at least 1750.

And of course, the practice ended in Europe long before it ended here. It had to have been questioned in Europe or they wouldn't have ended it. Which is odd, given DeSantis statement, since these were still monarchies when they ended the practice. We became a democracy in 1776, and took another 89 years to end it. Because racism was deeply ingrained in white culture here, more than in Europe. That explains why a democracy takes 89 years to end slavery, while totalitarian monachies across the Atlantic ended it centuries before.

This is what happens when partisan assholes who know nothing about history decide to comment on history.

Don't want to start another DeSantis thread, so I'll just drop this shit here.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2022/09/24/desantis-american-revolution-slavery-sot-van-jones-reax-cnt-vpx.cnn

DeSantis claims that there was no abolition movement until the War of Independence because the DOI had said "all men are created equal." That and becoming a democracy is, according to him, what got us first thinking about ending slavery. In the video I linked, Van Jones points out that the slaves themselves had always questioned it, which is correct, but incomplete. Also the Quakers opposed it from the moment they arrived here. And there was a small abolition movement outside the Quakers going back to at least 1750.

And of course, the practice ended in Europe long before it ended here. It had to have been questioned in Europe or they wouldn't have ended it. Which is odd, given DeSantis statement, since these were still monarchies when they ended the practice. We became a democracy in 1776, and took another 89 years to end it. Because racism was deeply ingrained in white culture here, more than in Europe. That explains why a democracy takes 89 years to end slavery, while totalitarian monachies across the Atlantic ended it centuries before.

This is what happens when partisan assholes who know nothing about history decide to comment on history.

DeSantis probably knows this, he is testing the waters as to what kind if alternative facts he can feed into the base and get away with. He is Trumpifying himself.

 

[hal2kilo]

There are no restraints on the border? So no checkpoints? No border crossing waits? No border patrol?

HOLY SHIT GUYS THIS IS CRAZY!

It's amazing how much these people continue to spout this propaganda nonsense. It's beyond dangerous at this point. They are all our enemy. At best they are early stage Nazis but most of them are mid-stage Nazis. I mean anybody who would consider voting for Trump again is definitely mid-stage Nazi. That's tens and tens of millions of Americans are basically on their way to becoming full Nazis.

They continue to believe that the Democrats believe in "open borders". Show me the policy.