BRITISH and American coalition forces are using depleted uranium (DU) shells in the war against Iraq and deliberately flouting a United Nations resolution which classifies the munitions as illegal weapons of mass destruction.
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BRITISH and American coalition forces are using depleted uranium (DU) shells in the war against Iraq and deliberately flouting a United Nations resolution which classifies the munitions as illegal weapons of mass destruction.
I fail to see how you can class a heavy metal penetrator as a WMD. In all my reading I have never seen DU ammo referred to as such. I'm calling shenanigans until someone else provides several links to non-hippie websitesOriginally posted by: Ferocious
clickBRITISH and American coalition forces are using depleted uranium (DU) shells in the war against Iraq and deliberately flouting a United Nations resolution which classifies the munitions as illegal weapons of mass destruction.
Lets dissect the acronym. Weapons....of Mass... Destruction. I'm sure it does just that. So considering the meaning..I think it fits the bill.Yes, please provide a link to a resolution stating that THOSE particular weapons are WMD?
well, they don't give specifics on the images. DU was used in Kosovo, Kuwait, Iraq, Bosnia. And I could care less if the page is anti-american. That isn't why I viewed it. It has images of war.Originally posted by: mastertech01
With all of the bio/chemical weapons SH has used against his own people how can you even imply that those birth defects were caused by DU? Just because that webpage which is obviously anti american says so?
DU contaminates land, causes ill-health and cancers among the soldiers using the weapons, the armies they target and civilians, leading to birth defects in children. DU dust does this, not because its radioactive, but because the human body doesn't respond well to heavy metals
It causes mass destruction? So firing one DU round can take out a couple of hundred tanks and tens of thousands of soldiers? So minor mass destruction then? Well then whats a grenade? A weapon of really ultra minor mass destruction?Originally posted by: Phuz
Lets dissect the acronym. Weapons....of Mass... Destruction. I'm sure it does just that. So considering the meaning..I think it fits the bill.Yes, please provide a link to a resolution stating that THOSE particular weapons are WMD?
Should there be another category made for Depleted Uranium? WMMD - Weapons of Minor Mass Destruction?![]()
Originally posted by: rickn
well, they don't give specifics on the images. DU was used in Kosovo, Kuwait, Iraq, Bosnia. And I could care less if the page is anti-american. That isn't why I viewed it. It has images of war.Originally posted by: mastertech01
With all of the bio/chemical weapons SH has used against his own people how can you even imply that those birth defects were caused by DU? Just because that webpage which is obviously anti american says so?
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DU contaminates land, causes ill-health and cancers among the soldiers using the weapons, the armies they target and civilians, leading to birth defects in children. DU dust does this, not because its radioactive, but because the human body doesn't respond well to heavy metals
thanks mookow, you said it yourself.
Considering the part in bold, I would have to say that the effects of it after it is dispersed by wind, water, etc, are neglible. So, since the only people that could really be effected are the guys within 50 meters of impact, and considering that the armor on a T-72 (the best tank the Iraqis have in quantity) is almost always going to be ineffective against US fired DU rounds, the only people at risk are the guys outside the tanks, but within 50 meters, NOT "soldiers using the weapons... and civilians, leading to birth defects in children". The targets that get hit by DU usually dont have to worry about the long term effects of DU. Only the guys around the targets."DoD conducted over 34 experiments designed to measure the amount of DU that may be inhaled. This includes DU munitions hitting a variety of armored vehicles as well as fires involving depleted uranium munitions. What we have consistently found is that levels may exceed peacetime safety standards only if you are in, on or near - less than 50 meters - a vehicle at the time it is hit by a DU munition.
"Almost as soon as the round hits and the dust has settled, the standards on the outside of the vehicle will rapidly fall to levels that are a lot lower than the safety standards," he said.
Link #4Second, some of the opposition is the result of a successful Iraqi disinformation campaign claiming that exposure to DU had caused thousands of cancers and birth defects to innocent civilians. When the WHO offered to investigate the claims, Iraqi officials flatly refused the offer
A 2001 WHO study found that DU's hazards are "likely to be very small." A RAND Corporation study in 1999 and another 2001 project funded by the European Parliament concurred.
The truth. If you're an Iraqi, and in a tank that gets hit by DU, you don't have to worry about pretty much anything.Originally posted by: Mookow
The targets that get hit by DU usually dont have to worry about the long term effects of DU.