I bought this reciever and it will be delivered Wednesday and I was wondering what you guys think about it.Now I noticet it says 70 full-bandwidth-rated watts x 5 channels does this mean 350 watts total?Let me know what you think
Denon DTS Reciever
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yes i believe thats what it means
all i know, from what i hear from my friends, is that denon receivers are awesome
all i know, from what i hear from my friends, is that denon receivers are awesome
It sounded really sweet in the store which is HUGE!!The system has these towers these sattelites this center speaker this subwoofer and this DVD player all for $900.I think I got a pretty good deal cann't wait to get it running Christmas Eve
Denon recievers are normally rated pretty well, but I haven't heard much about the 1403. Most of the well reviewed Denon receivers are the x80x series, i.e., the 1800, 2800, 3800, 4800 and 5800 series. Current models end with the "3" designation, which is to say 1803, 3803, and 5803. I don't think there's a 2803 and 4803 yet.
Denon usually rates its power at 6ohms, so its refreshingly nice to see it rated at 8ohms for a change. Full bandwidth ratings simply mean that the power is available across the entire audible bandwidth, i.e. 20-20KHz. So, if Denon isn't lying, you can pretty much except REAL 5x70Wpc RMS. However, as good as Denon is, you probably won't get that much. Its just a rating, and actual power output of cheap receivers generally fall short of their ratings.
As for "350W total", nobody in the audio industry adds up the individual channel power ratings and give it as a total power output rating, you simply don't calculate it like that. Only in the computer/multimedia market do I see such advertised ratings. It borders on fraud, and is just plain wrong.
Anyway, if you have a small room and/or the rest of your system isn't really good stuff, then the 1403 should do a good job. Its a step up from the multitude of HTiBs out there, and is actually quite feature rich. What are you actually connecting it to?
Denon usually rates its power at 6ohms, so its refreshingly nice to see it rated at 8ohms for a change. Full bandwidth ratings simply mean that the power is available across the entire audible bandwidth, i.e. 20-20KHz. So, if Denon isn't lying, you can pretty much except REAL 5x70Wpc RMS. However, as good as Denon is, you probably won't get that much. Its just a rating, and actual power output of cheap receivers generally fall short of their ratings.
As for "350W total", nobody in the audio industry adds up the individual channel power ratings and give it as a total power output rating, you simply don't calculate it like that. Only in the computer/multimedia market do I see such advertised ratings. It borders on fraud, and is just plain wrong.
Anyway, if you have a small room and/or the rest of your system isn't really good stuff, then the 1403 should do a good job. Its a step up from the multitude of HTiBs out there, and is actually quite feature rich. What are you actually connecting it to?
I already bought them.This was (in my humble opinion) the best setup the wife and I could afford right now.We are giving this to the two of us and our two boys for Christmas.
The Sauce
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I switched to Denon a few years ago and I will never switch back. Just warm, smooth, pure amplification. I don't know about that receiver in particular but Denon rocks. I believe that they use discrete amplifiers for each channel...but the rears might be combined, not sure. That's pretty cheap for a pretty damn good looking receiver. I wonder if Denon started making consumer-level, low-end stuff now.
I cann't wait for Xmas Eve so I can set it up and see what it sounds like in our living room!!!!
The 1403 is pretty much the lowest end, most consumer level receiver that Denon has right now. The higher end stuff are their flagship Denon AVR-5803, which has received rave reviews, claiming that it rivals separates. That's an exaggeration though, but it still is pretty much one of the best dang receivers you can buy in the market now. Denon also has the even more exotic "S" class equipment, but AFAIK its not available in North America.
As for the low end, Denon does make HTiBs and mini component systems, some of which are paired with Mission speakers.
As for the low end, Denon does make HTiBs and mini component systems, some of which are paired with Mission speakers.
Yep, this seems to be the way Denon sounds. I bought a Yamaha RV600 (RX?) and the sound was too bright for my tastes and the Denon 3802 sounded just right.
Linux23
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i just bought the 3803, switching from a Sony ES receiver a week ago, and let me tell you this receiver truly rocks in how smooth yet dynamic it sounds. when i get a bigger room, then i'll just add external amps and go with the internal processing this unit provides. you can't beat 192/24 Burr Brown DACS!
wow.
A denon receiver with DTS for 299, isn't that a good deal?
900 for the package seems excellent. The polk speakers seemed pretty good too. The subwoofer seemed to be the only thing a bit skimpy, with 50 watts. will it be going in a large or small room? Everything seems great except that, but who knows try it out and see for yourself. if it isn't giving you the bass you want, you can always buy the same sub again and have two subs.
God man, i remember when i spent a 1000 dollars on my system i thought it was the bomb. this is probably better and cheaper. of course my system was purchased 5 years ago so a lot has changed.
I can say with almost certainty though that Denon will be my next AV receiver. Yeah, separates sound better, but i don't want the hassle. Denon Receiver + paradigm speakers + mitsu HDTV = Awesome value HT setup.
A denon receiver with DTS for 299, isn't that a good deal?
900 for the package seems excellent. The polk speakers seemed pretty good too. The subwoofer seemed to be the only thing a bit skimpy, with 50 watts. will it be going in a large or small room? Everything seems great except that, but who knows try it out and see for yourself. if it isn't giving you the bass you want, you can always buy the same sub again and have two subs.
God man, i remember when i spent a 1000 dollars on my system i thought it was the bomb. this is probably better and cheaper. of course my system was purchased 5 years ago so a lot has changed.
I can say with almost certainty though that Denon will be my next AV receiver. Yeah, separates sound better, but i don't want the hassle. Denon Receiver + paradigm speakers + mitsu HDTV = Awesome value HT setup.
The Sauce
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Heh...that's funny. I had the Yamaha 670 and when I got the Denon I set the two receivers up side by side with the same speakers and that was the exact same impression that I got. I could not even listen to the Yamaha after hearing the Denon....it was way to bright and brassy. Almost painful to the ears. And I had been using it for 5 years prior.
Yamahas have always been too bright IMHO.
Clean power, but bright. I guess you can try to correct that though.
Clean power, but bright. I guess you can try to correct that though.
Linux23
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SherEPunjab:
i too have Paradigm speakers. this last upgrade cost me $1500. about $850 for the Denon and about 700 for the surround (4) speakers and the monster speaker cable. i know i don't have high end equipment, but this current setup totally blows my local cineplex out the waters. the clarity, the bass, the dynamic range really puts the theathers to shame. SW EP2 really shows what a 7.1 channels system can do.
i too have Paradigm speakers. this last upgrade cost me $1500. about $850 for the Denon and about 700 for the surround (4) speakers and the monster speaker cable. i know i don't have high end equipment, but this current setup totally blows my local cineplex out the waters. the clarity, the bass, the dynamic range really puts the theathers to shame. SW EP2 really shows what a 7.1 channels system can do.
Linux:
i currently do not own Paradigms. I have Polk. However, my next HT will be Paradigms, i have decided on that. They are not high end, but most audiophiles will agree they sound almost as good, for a fraction of the price. Can't go wrong IMHO, esp. if your main function will be for movies.
I'm actually surprised by how low the number of connections there are on the back of that Denon.
This is the back of my Pioneer
Does not seem to be much room to grow with that receiver.
For speakers I just got this setup last week and I'm pretty happy with it.
This is the back of my Pioneer
Does not seem to be much room to grow with that receiver.
For speakers I just got this setup last week and I'm pretty happy with it.
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