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Denon AVR-E400, Pioneer VSX-1123-K, Marantz NR1604 Slim Line 7.1.. Please Help

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ASecondChance

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I'm really new with this AVR stuff and I would like to know which one of this 3 you would recommend for me to buy.

Denon AVR-E400 7.1 Channel 4K and 3D Pass Through Networking Home Theater Receiver with AirPlay by Denon Link: http://amzn.com/B00B7X2OTY

Pioneer Channel AV Receiver, VSX-1123-K (Black) by Pioneer Link: http://amzn.com/B00BKXCKRC

Marantz NR1604 Slim Line 7.1 Network Receiver with AirPlay by Marantz Link: http://amzn.com/B00BLZDKZ0

Also would like some tips on speakers because is another thing I don't have a clue.

This is going to be used mainly for gaming and movies (BluRay):

- TV Samsung UN55ES7500
-PS4
-PS3
-PC (AsRock Z77 Extreme4 onboard audio dont plan to use dedicated audio card)

I would apreciate if you don't go over $1000 but if I need to I will consider it if you guys think is work it. I don;t mind starting with a good 5.1 system and adding later on the other speakers I need to get the most of my AVR.

Thanks in advance.
 
What stores are close by? The only way to choose speakers is to demo them.

But generally speaking, the bigger they are the better they will sound. There's simply no replacement for cone size. I hate satellites.
 
my bootimg disappeared from my desktop (going to try fixing it today) and i leave my laptop at work!
so sorry for the late reply

NutBucket said:
What stores are close by? The only way to choose speakers is to demo them.

But generally speaking, the bigger they are the better they will sound. There's simply no replacement for cone size. I hate satellites.
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forgot to mention that i will be importing this because there isn't good audio stores in my country so i cant demo them and trusting that you guys can give me a better advice than my gut feeling when it comes to audio lol



mshan said:
Andrew Jones designed Pioneer speakers are nice: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...G?tag=at055-20 (I like the floor standers for front left and right channels)

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=113182.0

Search Hot Deals forums for previous sale prices and check Newegg to see if they go on sale there.
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like i explained to NutBucket, im importing this and so i cant buy from places like newegg (they wont sell outside US/CA) .

btw those speakers looks nice, i was checking some Infinity that i found in my google searches and while they are really nice they are so expensive haha

just for reference point me to speakers that handle good action movies, clear speech audio and it as all good with me

oh yes, i see those speakers have an impedance of 6. will it cause any trouble with the AVRs i want to buy?

EDIT: why do people prefer those banana plugs?
 
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Andrew Jones said the 6 Ohm rating was just a more honest rating vs. the 8 Ohm nominal impedance ratings other manufacturers might use.

I would guess any reasonable (say $300 price point?) AVR should drive the speakers find, unless you require insanely loud spl.

Regarding banana plugs, I would guess (again, this is a guess) that it is just a matter of convenience.

Monitor Audio (e. g. Silver series) comes to mind as being described as crisp and well suited for movie sound tracks. Klipsch would come to mind on low end, and Hsu Research as similar to Klipsch (darker, fuller bodied sound), but more refined treble.

Ascend Acoustics is supposed to be quite synergistic with Harmon Kardon: http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages/products/elect/electintro.html
 
mshan said:
Andrew Jones said the 6 Ohm rating was just a more honest rating vs. the 8 Ohm nominal impedance ratings other manufacturers might use.

I would guess any reasonable (say $300 price point?) AVR should drive the speakers find, unless you require insanely loud spl.

Regarding banana plugs, I would guess (again, this is a guess) that it is just a matter of convenience.

Monitor Audio (e. g. Silver series) comes to mind as being described as crisp and well suited for movie sound tracks. Klipsch would come to mind on low end, and Hsu Research as similar to Klipsch (darker, fuller bodied sound), but more refined treble.

Ascend Acoustics is supposed to be quite synergistic with Harmon Kardon: http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages/products/elect/electintro.html
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just some last questions, should i buy wire instead of using the ones that comes with the speakers and what does gauge means like example some said i should get a 16 gauge wires .
 
I would say just use the gauge of stranded copper wire recommended by speaker company. And I would start with the speaker wire included in kit, live with it for a month or two, and change it if you feel like something is missing, but speakers are probably voiced with those speaker wires and entry level / midrange avrs. Better speaker wires may just sound different, but in a funny and odd way where the system just doesn't sound right (e. g. you start to "hear" / sense the plastic enclosure speaker is built from, much more so than with the generic speaker wire manufacturer originally intended speakers to be used with).

If very extended length, they will probably recommend slightly larger gauge (e. g. 14 gauge instead of 16 gauge)

Monoprice.com, if they ship internationally, has some decent stuff (http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10239)

Belkin Pure AV line of speaker wire uses higher purity copper and is also nice option if you can find it at good price on eBay (I believe Belkin has discontinued line): http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=442454




Don't know where you are located, but stickies in this forum have retailers that ship (more computer related stuff, but may have speaker wire, etc.) to Canada, Britain, EU, etc: http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=5&sid=e891329d5501677bd03f5f31b3b0d283
 
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Get the Denon receiver due to Audysse. It makes a big difference.

My suggestion would be to get a cheaper receiver. Check your local bestbuy for clearance. I just picked up a $600 Yamaha for $200. You can check clearance and open box online. If you can cut your receiver cost to $300 you can spend a lot more on speakers and that's where you sound quality is coming from.

Speakers is a different animal with a lot of personal preference. I am a big fan of the Polk Monitor series. They go on sale at newegg quite often along with the Klipsch sub.

Wait for a sale and you can get a pair for 65T's for $280, 25C center for $150 or less, and 45B surrounds for $150. Add the Klipsch sub for $300 and you have a really solid system. Total with reciever is a little above your budget but you can always piece it together as budget allows. Do 3.0 now, then add a sub for 3.1 and then add the surrounds. It's better to add as you can than to spend less and be disappointed with what you have.
 
boomhower said:
Get the Denon receiver due to Audysse. It makes a big difference.
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The Marantz also has the same level of Audyssey as the Denon (MultiEQ). BTW, if you're going to go with room correction software, I recommend at least this level of Audyssey as it will EQ your sub. Otherwise you have to do that manually. I have a Denon 2112CI and love the Audyssey feature. It really does make a big difference.

Another of boomhower's suggestions is well worth considering depending on the size of your room: start with fewer (but better) speakers. If you're trying to fill a larger room with sound, a $1,000 budget isn't going to be enough for a 5.1 setup. The sub alone could eat well into that figure. If you have a smaller/mid sized room, I would start with a 3.0 system like boomhower says and see how lacking in bass the system is and get an appropriate sub. Surrounds are the last purchase.
 
funboy6942 said:
May I add in what I got.

http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-NR809...onkyo+tx+nr809

More inputs then you can shake a stick at. 4K and 3D ready, and separate dedicated inputs should you decide to use a dedicated sound card, and has separate outputs as well should you think 135 watts isnt enough for you. Oh yes its also THX rated and has Audyssey.
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Lot of features for the money with Onkyo, it's just the HDMI boards crapping out with regular frequency that keeps from seriously considering them.
 
sorry for the late reply, i didnt think i was gonna get more help on this

@boomhower interesting the idea of getting 3.0 with better quality speakers and then just keep adding later. I think Im gonna do just that.

@queequeg99: is a mid-size room cant remember the exact measurements (its currently under construction almost finished though give it a month for details and stuff just enough time because I cant order this on air delivery it would cost me probably twice the price of the stuff im buying)

@funboy6942: that thing is a beast and honestly I was set on a Onkyo NR612 but I read a lot of how this best bang for your buck AVRs came with some faults for example I think this ones overheated so as much I like what the Onkyo offers since I have to import all this purchases it is more of a hassle to ship out than to ship in stuff. But thanks for the suggestion.

I think I'm gonna go for the Marantz taking in consideration that Audyssey stuff and I like it more astheticaclly speaking since they have almost the same feature and I/O wise.


now does it really make a difference having the Polk 65T over the 55T besides the extra 138$? because it is 477$ vs 615$ (without shipping and includes the 25C)

EDIT: all things considered i think i will need another UPS for TV,PS4,PS3,AVR... damn
 
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