Denny's to impose 5% Obamacare surcharge

[soulcougher73]

So you really do not see how Obamacare increases Denny's costs?

Nope just seems to eat away at profits.

 

[soulcougher73]

The business of business is to make money. When you raise their operating costs, they are going to raise their prices. It's as simple as that.

Is it to make money or to make as much money at all costs? There is a difference.

 

[nehalem256]

Nope just seems to eat away at profits.

And if costs stay the same why would profits decrease?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Except it isn't. Just more bitter Republicans

It's your favored party's solution. Don't cry because costs are being passed along. It's no one's obligation to pay for your foolishness. Republicans? This is your bastard child. Embrace it.

I think that businesses should get together and cover all their employees, and tack the explicit costs onto a customers bill. You shouldn't object because it's more affordable. Love your bastard, it's yours and yours alone.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

While I haven't read the entire thread why is a 5% increase to give all employees a bad deal? So my two breakfasts that cost $15 now effectively cost $15.75?
Outrageous fck those lazy Denny's workers. How dare they need health care.

 

[nehalem256]

While I haven't read the entire thread why is a 5% increase to give all employees a bad deal? So my two breakfasts that cost $15 now effectively cost $15.75?

Its bad, because Democrats don't want you to know Obamacare increased you bfest costs.

 

[Ausm]

Its bad, because Democrats don't want you to know Obamacare increased you bfest costs.

WTF is a bfest?

 

[spidey07]

Where was the liberal outrage when San Francisco did this?

 

[DrPizza]

Note to self: stop eating at Denny's. I'll eat some place that has slightly higher prices because they built that 5% into the menu. If you want your restaurant to make political statements, that's fine. I want my restaurant to make good food and otherwise, stfu while serving it to me. I don't want politics thrown into my face while dining.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

WTF is a bfest?

I'd say breakfast.

The more I think about this the more I think that full disclosure ought to be made like with utility charges. It will show a zero charge or perhaps a credit since Obamacare saves money.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Only someone who is an idiot would think insurance is free but a 5% increase to insure people is a crappy deal?
What about the emergency rooms that get freed up because these folks now have insurance come on that is really a small charge to treat someone with a pretty basic requirement. 5% come on.

 

[spidey07]

Only someone who is an idiot would think insurance is free but a 5% increase to insure people is a crappy deal?
What about the emergency rooms that get freed up because these folks now have insurance come on that is really a small charge to treat someone with a pretty basic requirement. 5% come on.

Nothing is preventing anybody from getting healthcare or health care insurance. An employers job isn't to provide healthcrae or healtcare insurance, it is to make money.

 

[Matt1970]

Obamacare is all fun and games till we start getting the bills in.

 

[jackstar7]

Nothing is preventing anybody from getting healthcare or health care insurance. An employers job isn't to provide healthcrae or healtcare insurance, it is to make money.

And again, maintaining your labor at optimal performance is better than a workforce constantly dropping shifts for illnesses. And at a pretty minimal cost it would seem like a damn good investment.

 

[BudAshes]

Denny's still exist?

 

[charrison]

And again, maintaining your labor at optimal performance is better than a workforce constantly dropping shifts for illnesses. And at a pretty minimal cost it would seem like a damn good investment.

It might have been minimal at one point, but it no longer is.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Obamacare is all fun and games till we start getting the bills in.

As well as a 35% increase in premiums in two years (Jan 2012 17% increase, Jan 2013 18% increase).

 

[soulcougher73]

And if costs stay the same why would profits decrease?

Is he still turning a profit or not?

 

[jackstar7]

It might have been minimal at one point, but it no longer is.

5% additional charge to food for all workers to be covered and better productive overall? Pretty minimal.

If you're talking about something else, then say what it is.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Nothing is preventing anybody from getting healthcare or health care insurance. An employers job isn't to provide healthcrae or healtcare insurance, it is to make money.

there is plenty preventing people from private insurance that is why so many have been unisured or how about the diabetic, try getting health insurance on your own pre Obamacare. I stand by a 5% cost increase in low margin businesses is a great trade off to provide insurance to everyone.
Look at Foxcon in China, is that really a responsible way to run a business? They're guaranteed to make a profit. Do you really want our society to go that way?
Keep in mind traditionally we have been paying the most per capita on health care and our overall effectiveness is similar to some 3rd world countries. We can do better & its time to try something different. If Obamacare doesn't work we can redirect our efforts to something else.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Note to self: stop eating at Denny's. I'll eat some place that has slightly higher prices because they built that 5% into the menu. If you want your restaurant to make political statements, that's fine. I want my restaurant to make good food and otherwise, stfu while serving it to me. I don't want politics thrown into my face while dining.

It's affordable, remember that.

The irksome things seem to be that people are annoyed that true costs associated with mandates is being explicitly stated and that businesses aren't being good little soldiers and taking a bullet for team dem. Sorry, but this was a cluster from day one and I think credit should be given for good or ill, and obvious unintended consequences of political solutions for real healthcare problems should be in the limelight. There were better ways, but those were shouted down.

 

[shira]

So you really do not see how Obamacare increases Denny's costs?

I would think that you, of all people, would really, really LOVE what Obamacare does. You continually complain about people who burden society (for example, unwed mothers who can't afford to care for their children).

Under Obamacare, companies would be required to provide health insurance to their employees (or to pay a penalty). Thus, many more people (the estimate is more than 30 million) will be insured when all provisions of Obamacare are in place. The health care costs of those 30+ million newly insured people will be paid by insurance companies. Currently, the health care costs of these people are paid for by everyone else, via higher health insurance premiums and higher fees for health care services (because the losses suffered by providers for care given to the uninsured must be covered through greater profits on "insured" services).

And under Obamacare, YOU can decide whether you wish to patronize Deny's and pay their higher food costs. Restaurants that already insure their employees presumably won't have to raise their prices (or perhaps they'll be able to LOWER their prices because, with a much broader insurance pool, the average premium should decrease).

So why do you want to continue with a system that forces the rest of us to pay for the uninsured?

 

[charrison]

5% additional charge to food for all workers to be covered and better productive overall? Pretty minimal.

If you're talking about something else, then say what it is.

The 5% covers fine for not providing insurance from what I gather.

Barebones HSA family coverage will cost around 6k/year. IF the govt requires "better" coverage than that, it will cost even more.

 

[VirtualLarry]

You're going to see more and more of this. Business said what would happen if we didn't repeal obamacare, and what was predicted is coming true. Reduce people's hours to below 30, drop insurance all together, increased prices, layoffs, etc.

Did the liberal whine about it when san francisco did this years ago, even showing it on the receipt? My guess is no.

My fear is that this entire nation is going to end up like California, politically, economically, etc. What a scary world.

 

[jackstar7]

I think credit should be given for good...

Can you elaborate on what you see as the good?