Dennis Leary on Autism...

[NFS4]

** Pops open a can of beer **

On autism:

"There is a huge boom in autism right now because inattentive mothers and competitive dads want an explanation for why their dumb-ass kids can't compete academically, so they throw money into the happy laps of shrinks . . . to get back diagnoses that help explain away the deficiencies of their junior morons. I don't give a [bleep] what these crackerjack whack jobs tell you - yer kid is NOT autistic. He's just stupid. Or lazy. Or both."

On Dr. Phil:

"[He says] such thick and exasperating things as, 'Everybody has their own personal Ground Zero.' Oh, really? Does that mean someday two large speeding planes will crash into the side of your insipid hairless head? Let's hope so."

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10...e_autistics_133648.htm

 

[edro]

Autism Awareness!

 

[CPA]

Michael Savage said something similar about a month ago, and got killed in the media for it. Luckily, Savage stands by his opinions and isn't PC....oh, and it helps that he's right.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: CPA
Michael Savage said something similar about a month ago, and got killed in the media for it. Luckily, Savage stands by his opinions and isn't PC....oh, and it helps that he's right.

Yup. I posted that here.

 

[DanTMWTMP]

hehe, same can be said for stupid ADD/ADHD diagnosis. I certainly have ADD symptoms, but I don't blame ADD, I will blame myself if I ever have any shortcomings and change if necessary.

 

[FP]

Originally posted by: CPA
Michael Savage said something similar about a month ago, and got killed in the media for it. Luckily, Savage stands by his opinions and isn't PC....oh, and it helps that he's right.

So you don't think there is a true increase in Autism?

 

[Demon-Xanth]

While I strongly believe that autism is a real disease, as is ADHD/ADD and numerous others, I do also strongly believe that much of the diagnoses comes from poor raising of the child or not accepting that they are indeed children. Children require work and don't sit still on their own. I didn't when I was a kid, and I don't expect kids today to. It's the parent's job to guide them. Who all of these false diagnoses hurts most is the people with the real illness that need real treatment. Not only do they get lumped in with the people taking the easy route out, they also have to wait in the queue of those people.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: CPA
Michael Savage said something similar about a month ago, and got killed in the media for it. Luckily, Savage stands by his opinions and isn't PC....oh, and it helps that he's right.

There's a slight difference between a political commentator and a professional comedian. Not much, but some.

Denis Leary has never been one for being PC, so this doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

 

[jonks]

yeah, let's hold comedians literally to their acts...

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: binister

Originally posted by: CPA
Michael Savage said something similar about a month ago, and got killed in the media for it. Luckily, Savage stands by his opinions and isn't PC....oh, and it helps that he's right.

So you don't think there is a true increase in Autism?

certainly not at the rate in which doctor's would like us to believe.

My sister's two year old was just "diagnosed" with autism. Funny thing is he acts/behaves exactly like my 11-year old did then. My 11 year has had issues, but it's not autism and we don't handicap him by coddling to his fits.

 

[Tiamat]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
While I strongly believe that autism is a real disease, as is ADHD/ADD and numerous others, I do also strongly believe that much of the diagnoses comes from poor raising of the child or not accepting that they are indeed children. Children require work and don't sit still on their own. I didn't when I was a kid, and I don't expect kids today to. It's the parent's job to guide them. Who all of these false diagnoses hurts most is the people with the real illness that need real treatment. Not only do they get lumped in with the people taking the easy route out, they also have to wait in the queue of those people.

Same. Parents these days just don't parent as much as they used to. (perhaps due to laziness, but more probably due to both parents working)

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: CPA
Michael Savage said something similar about a month ago, and got killed in the media for it. Luckily, Savage stands by his opinions and isn't PC....oh, and it helps that he's right.

There's a slight difference between a political commentator and a professional comedian. Not much, but some.

Hm. There's a punchline here somewhere.

 

[rchiu]

Heh, who give a sh!t what those people say anymore. They are bunch of whores who will say anything for money and attention. If you take them seriously, you are the idiotic ones.

 

[dbk]

It's all about discipline. Like Russell Peters says, "Parents, please beat your kids."

 

[Anubis]

what do you expect hes an asshole

 

[Vehemence]

Leary for president.

 

[hiromizu]

Originally posted by: dbk
It's all about discipline. Like Russell Peters says, "Parents, please beat your kids."

Exactly. No matter how stupid you are, you'll stop and listen if someone is beating the crap out of you. If you don't, then you're genuinely retarded or really into the sadomasochistic arts.

 

[moshquerade]

Autism has replaced ADHD as the new buzz diagnosis.

 

[Vehemence]

Originally posted by: hiromizu

Originally posted by: dbk
It's all about discipline. Like Russell Peters says, "Parents, please beat your kids."

Exactly. No matter how stupid you are, you'll stop and listen if someone is beating the crap out of you. If you don't, then you're genuinely retarded or really into the sadomasochistic arts.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Autism has replaced ADHD as the new buzz diagnosis.

For the love of all that is good, please don't say that. I guess you get it.

ADHD is 99% a misdiagnosis. Autism is a life-crushing genetic disease with no real cure.

"ADHD"....yeah, right. Gen Y has used their Ritalin-fueled youth as an excuse for their failures for 15 years now.

When I was growing up "hyperactive kids" got Dad's BOOT up their ASS. Numerous times, if that's what it took to get across the message that you were messing something up, something. Know what? It worked. Funny, that, eh?

No Ritalin. No pet-me-on-the-head-because-I-have-a-learning-disability bullshit. ADHD is the biggest bullshit diagnosis ever. It's a PARENTING FAILURE. Your kid needs an ass-kicking. Give it to him/her.

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Autism has replaced ADHD as the new buzz diagnosis.

As a mental health professional, I can agree that the autism diagnosis can be abused to excuse what is essentially poor parenting. But I'd actually say that rapid-cycling bi-polar is the new buzz diagnosis, because it can look almost identical to a spoiled brat throwing tantrums to get what he wants. It also looks exactly like hypoglycemia. You'd be amazed how many cases of "bi-polar disorder" can be fixed by calling the cops or giving the kid some protein every two hours.

That said, autism is a very real thing, and for the kids that are affected by it, no amount of conventional behavior modification will help them. It is also important to realize that it is a spectrum disorder, meaning not everyone who has a form of it is completely non-functional. There are plenty of people who live more or less normal lives but will always be seen as "weird" by others. And there are kids for whom the inability to process stimulation overloads and results in panicked "wild animal" blow-outs that cannot be controlled by any amount of consequences, time-outs (as in 30 days in an isolation tank and STILL freaking out!), or even physical threats.

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: hiromizu

Originally posted by: dbk
It's all about discipline. Like Russell Peters says, "Parents, please beat your kids."

Exactly. No matter how stupid you are, you'll stop and listen if someone is beating the crap out of you. If you don't, then you're genuinely retarded or really into the sadomasochistic arts.

See, that's just not true for autistic kids. There are plenty of kids who just need a good spanking once in a while. But for autistic kids, it will not help at all.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: hiromizu

Originally posted by: dbk
It's all about discipline. Like Russell Peters says, "Parents, please beat your kids."

Exactly. No matter how stupid you are, you'll stop and listen if someone is beating the crap out of you. If you don't, then you're genuinely retarded or really into the sadomasochistic arts.

See, that's just not true for autistic kids. There are plenty of kids who just need a good spanking once in a while. But for autistic kids, it will not help at all.

*raises hand* Doctor, could we just kill them and get their genes out of the gene pool? It would be like "autism chlorine!"

 

[torpid]

That second quote about ground zero is awesome.

 

[middlehead]

Originally posted by: dbk
It's all about discipline. Like Russell Peters says, "Parents, please beat your kids."

Leary's done bits on the same vein - beat them and then make them do yard work.

"The Leary kid must be in trouble again, their yard looks fantastic!"