Denmark Fines First Woman Under New Burka Ban

[Incorruptible]

Denmark has charged the first woman for wearing the burka. A woman who refused to take it off was fined 1000 Kroner.

Denmark did the right thing banning the burka, nobody should be able to hide their face in public. They need to keep charging anyone wearing a burka. These people are breaking the law and disrespecting the country. The fines definitely need to be increased and harsher penalties for this nonsense.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...rged-islamophobia-face-covering-a8477196.html

 

[UberNeuman]

Christian bakers should have to bake for gay couples as well. It's the law.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Hey indigestible, your islamophobia is showing

 

[zzyzxroad]

Speaking of Burka Bans what's Jason Spencer been up to?

 

[UglyCasanova]

I don’t care about the hiding their face part but I do think it entombes women behind there. Some say they want to wear it but how much of that is conditioning? It treats women as these lower class, less than human objects and no modern culture should be ok with that. I’m referring to the full faced ones not necessarily the hijab.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

It’s Denmark. I don’t care.

 

[UNCjigga]

Hey indigestible, your islamophobia is showing

Too bad he can't cover it with a burka.

 

[1prophet]

I don’t care about the hiding their face part but I do think it entombes women behind there. Some say they want to wear it but how much of that is conditioning? It treats women as these lower class, less than human objects and no modern culture should be ok with that. I’m referring to the full faced ones not necessarily the hijab.

It's medieval misogyny, nothing more nothing less, no different than publicly placed confederate statues are symbols of racism regardless of the faux culture angle used to defend both.

What is sad is how right wing extremist types are the ones pointing this out and our supposed equal rights liberal establishment defends it as some sort of cultural right and anyone that questions it is a bigot or racist.

 

[Blackjack200]

Woman was literally assaulted and she's the one that's gets fined. Nice look Denmark.

 

[zinfamous]

It's medieval misogyny, nothing more nothing less, no different than publicly placed confederate statues are symbols of racism regardless of the faux culture angle used to defend both.

What is sad is how right wing extremist types are the ones pointing this out and our supposed equal rights liberal establishment defends it as some sort of cultural right and anyone that questions it is a bigot or racist.

Occasionally I find myself agreeing with you. This is one of those times.

 

[theeedude]

Are they going to fine people wearing masks for Halloween too? Or motorcyclists wearing helmets?

 

[realibrad]

Are they going to fine people wearing masks for Halloween too? Or motorcyclists wearing helmets?

Actually, there are already laws for that type of thing. So yes.

 

[Viper1j]

Denmark did the right thing banning the burka, nobody should be able to hide their face in public. l

I bet your neighborhood is just a barrel of laughs, and you get zero invitations to Halloween parties.

 

[Commodus]

It's medieval misogyny, nothing more nothing less, no different than publicly placed confederate statues are symbols of racism regardless of the faux culture angle used to defend both.

What is sad is how right wing extremist types are the ones pointing this out and our supposed equal rights liberal establishment defends it as some sort of cultural right and anyone that questions it is a bigot or racist.

There is no hypocrisy here.

We would like if these women didn't feel obliged to wear burkhas. We just don't think governments should force women to give up burkhas. It's funny, conservatives whine about freedom of religion whenever a homophobic Christian won't bake a cake or sign off on a gay marriage, but it's suddenly completely off the table when Islam is involved. I wonder why that is?

 

[Vic]

There is no hypocrisy here.

We would like if these women didn't feel obliged to wear burkhas. We just don't think governments should force women to give up burkhas. It's funny, conservatives whine about freedom of religion whenever a homophobic Christian won't bake a cake or sign off on a gay marriage, but it's suddenly completely off the table when Islam is involved. I wonder why that is?

Because many people, like the OP, believe that it's perfectly right and proper to use the government to rob other people of their rights and freedoms (and also acceptable to make up any fearmongering lie they choose in order to justify doing so), but will then freak out whenever the same thing happens to them.
The names, labels, etc are all irrelevant. The primary motivators are identity and tribalism. "Others are always bad, we are always good."

 

[Vic]

It's medieval misogyny, nothing more nothing less, no different than publicly placed confederate statues are symbols of racism regardless of the faux culture angle used to defend both.

What is sad is how right wing extremist types are the ones pointing this out and our supposed equal rights liberal establishment defends it as some sort of cultural right and anyone that questions it is a bigot or racist.

Right wing extremists aren't pointing this out because they care about equal rights.
Quite the opposite, in fact, they're pointing it out to use as an excuse to deny other people of their equal rights.

 

[Homerboy]

Denmark has charged the first woman for wearing the burka. A woman who refused to take it off was fined 1000 Kroner.

Denmark did the right thing banning the burka, nobody should be able to hide their face in public. They need to keep charging anyone wearing a burka. These people are breaking the law and disrespecting the country. The fines definitely need to be increased and harsher penalties for this nonsense.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...rged-islamophobia-face-covering-a8477196.html

I wonder how many people wear ski masks in Denmark in the winter.

 

[Viper1j]

Winter? Summer in Denmark is no day at the beach either..

 

[UglyCasanova]

There is no hypocrisy here.

We would like if these women didn't feel obliged to wear burkhas. We just don't think governments should force women to give up burkhas. It's funny, conservatives whine about freedom of religion whenever a homophobic Christian won't bake a cake or sign off on a gay marriage, but it's suddenly completely off the table when Islam is involved. I wonder why that is?

In an ideal world yes I agree, government should stay out of peoples business. And I agree with respect to the burka ban too, I don’t like the idea of the government interjecting itself like this. I do see the burkas as essentially slavery though. The women may say the "want" to wear them but that want is coming from a position of years of conditioning and a fear of punishment if they say the wrong thing. If you asked a black slave if he wanted to be free and some said no I love my master but knowing they’d get their asses whipped if they said otherwise puts a different dynamic on it.

I disagree this is like the gay wedding cake. There are other options for a gay couple and I wouldn’t want them to hire a Muslim caterer and be able to force them to cook pork for instance either. No one is forced into a dehumanized slavery over a wedding cake which isn’t the same with a burka. I disagree with the idea of a government encroaching into religion but I can understand why they did so.

 

[Starbuck1975]

There is no hypocrisy here.

We would like if these women didn't feel obliged to wear burkhas. We just don't think governments should force women to give up burkhas. It's funny, conservatives whine about freedom of religion whenever a homophobic Christian won't bake a cake or sign off on a gay marriage, but it's suddenly completely off the table when Islam is involved. I wonder why that is?

There is a lot of hypocrisy here. This is one of those issues where political polarity slams into a paradox of opposing narratives. The way you framed the discussion is proof of that.

 

[Vic]

There is a lot of hypocrisy here. This is one of those issues where political polarity slams into a paradox of opposing narratives. The way you framed the discussion is proof of that.

Bullshit. The only motive right wing extremists have for pointing out the potential abuses of womens rights here is their goal of stripping Muslims of their religious freedom rights. Period.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Bullshit. The only motive right wing extremists have for pointing out the potential abuses of womens rights here is their goal to strip Muslims of their religious freedom rights. Period.

Bullshit. The only motive social justice warriors have for dismissing or rationalizing the patriarchal oppression inherent to the burqa is because it fits their often misguided and inconsistent narrative when it comes to religious freedom.

I fail to understand how not baking a cake for a gay couple is oppression but covering a woman head to toe in a sheet is “religious freedom”.

I believe we as a society should not tolerate the discrimination or oppression of anyone. The burqa is a symbol of oppression, not freedom. Period!

We are not talking about hijab, a form of religious and cultural expression that Muslim women reclaimed as a symbol of empowerment and fashion.

Fail.

 

[Vic]

Bullshit. The only motive social justice warriors have for dismissing or rationalizing the patriarchal oppression inherent to the burqa is because it fits their often misguided and inconsistent narrative when it comes to religious freedom.

I fail to understand how not baking a cake for a gay couple is oppression but covering a woman head to toe in a sheet is “religious freedom”.

I believe we as a society should not tolerate the discrimination or oppression of anyone. The burqa is a symbol of oppression, not freedom. Period!

We are not talking about hijab, a form of religious and cultural expression that Muslim women reclaimed as a symbol of empowerment and fashion.

Fail.

And taking away the burqa, from those who want to wear it, is somehow not discrimination and oppression?

 

[OutHouse]

Bullshit. The only motive right wing extremists have for pointing out the potential abuses of womens rights here is their goal of stripping Muslims of their religious freedom rights. Period.

the is NO potential abuse about it the abuse and oppression that the burka represents is real, but it appears you are all for oppression and abusing women as long as its hiding behind a religion. good to know.

 

[Starbuck1975]

And taking away the burqa, from those who want to wear it, is somehow not discrimination and oppression?

Your rationalization of patriarchal oppression justified by the alleged will of a mystical being in the sky is duly noted.

The verses of the Quran that Muslims use to rationalize the burqa are as relevant to a progressive society as the Old Testament verses that Christians use to oppose gay marriage.