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iGas

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What is the different between japanese and brazilian cherry?

Color and janka hardness.

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MrMatt

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Originally posted by: iGas

What is the different between japanese and brazilian cherry?

Color and janka hardness.

Thanks


:confused: did you just answer your own question?
 

Drako

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Originally posted by: MrMatt
Originally posted by: iGas

What is the different between japanese and brazilian cherry?

Color and janka hardness.

Thanks


:confused: did you just answer your own question?

Yes he did, color and hardness are the differences :).

 

Barfo

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Originally posted by: Drako
Originally posted by: MrMatt
Originally posted by: iGas

What is the different between japanese and brazilian cherry?

Color and janka hardness.

Thanks


:confused: did you just answer your own question?

Yes he did, color and hardness are the differences :).

That's what she said
 

Vette73

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What do you really want to know? Your question is way to general. Also the way the wood is cut can change things like if it was flat sawn or quartersawn. Also a lot of japanese cherry is from burma. So the name does not mean it came from that country.
 

iGas

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I like to know the different between the 2 naming scheme.

To my limited knowlegde,

Brazilian cherry == Jatoba == 2350 Janka == deep red colour != cherry plant

Japanese cherry == shades of red, Janka unknown, unknown cherry plant or not

American cherry == shades of yellow == 950 Janka
 

iGas

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
What do you really want to know? Your question is way to general. Also the way the wood is cut can change things like if it was flat sawn or quartersawn. Also a lot of japanese cherry is from burma. So the name does not mean it came from that country.
Flooring, sawn unknown.

What kind wood is Japanese/Burmese cherry?

 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: iGas
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
What do you really want to know? Your question is way to general. Also the way the wood is cut can change things like if it was flat sawn or quartersawn. Also a lot of japanese cherry is from burma. So the name does not mean it came from that country.
Flooring, sawn unknown.

What kind wood is Japanese/Burmese cherry?

Well to make it easy in the US we know of 2 oaks here. 1 is white and the other Red. But really there are many different oaks they just get pushed into either white or red mostly based on their structure. Red has a more open structure and white being more closed. They could be the same color or even the white could be more red then a red piece.

Japanese cherry seems to describe many different type of Asian woods. If you look at a Japanese cherry tree you would see it is very small and just about impossible to make good solid flooring with. Now a lot of Japanese cherry is engineered wood and that is just a very small shave of wood on top of a type of plywood. So that could be real J.Cherry. The solid Japenses Cherry in my house that I installed said it came from Burma. What kind of wood it is I don?t know. It is an open grain wood and not real hard is about all I can tell you. The natural color is red.


So more marketing then anything. Think about it, would you pay a premium for Burma red Oak or Japanese Cherry?
 

SphinxnihpS

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I have never heard of Janpanese Cherry. It frankly sounds like a quasi-marketing name of some brown wood.

You are right about "Brazilian Cherry". It is also the prettiest flooring I have seen save a guy who did an entire room, floors, ceilings, and walls in Koa.

If you use BC for flooring, you will need to predrill every nail hole. If you try and use a flooring nailer, you will have quite a mess.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
I have never heard of Janpanese Cherry. It frankly sounds like a quasi-marketing name of some brown wood.

You are right about "Brazilian Cherry". It is also the prettiest flooring I have seen save a guy who did an entire room, floors, ceilings, and walls in Koa.

If you use BC for flooring, you will need to predrill every nail hole. If you try and use a flooring nailer, you will have quite a mess.

You have never heard of a Japanese Cherry tree, like the ones in DC that bloom every year and many people come to see?

And Brazilian cherry will install just fine with a floor nailer if you know what you are doing. No pre drilling needed. Not sure where you came up with that.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
I have never heard of Janpanese Cherry. It frankly sounds like a quasi-marketing name of some brown wood.

You are right about "Brazilian Cherry". It is also the prettiest flooring I have seen save a guy who did an entire room, floors, ceilings, and walls in Koa.

If you use BC for flooring, you will need to predrill every nail hole. If you try and use a flooring nailer, you will have quite a mess.

I assumed Japanese Cherry comes from the Japanese cherry tree, which is rather ubiquitous in the US.

Ever been to DC?
 

SphinxnihpS

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
I have never heard of Janpanese Cherry. It frankly sounds like a quasi-marketing name of some brown wood.

You are right about "Brazilian Cherry". It is also the prettiest flooring I have seen save a guy who did an entire room, floors, ceilings, and walls in Koa.

If you use BC for flooring, you will need to predrill every nail hole. If you try and use a flooring nailer, you will have quite a mess.

You have never heard of a Japanese Cherry tree, like the ones in DC that bloom every year and many people come to see?

And Brazilian cherry will install just fine with a floor nailer if you know what you are doing. No pre drilling needed. Not sure where you came up with that.

Marlin you alluded to this fact yourself. Wood can be quite confusing because of all the regional, hobbiest, and marketing names for it. Species is really required for accuracy.

I have never heard the term Japanese Cherry. Japanese maple, yep, cherry no. Is it really cherry? I have no clue. Philippine Mahogany is not Mahogany at all. Most of the shit they call cherry in the furniture store is poplar. Most of the teak furniture sold is not teak at all. Do you ever come accross paduk? How about Vermillion?

If you nailed "Brazillian Cherry" you weren't using solid Jatoba, period.
 

vi edit

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As a home owner of brazillian cherry floors - be aware that it's a photosensitive wood. It actually *darkens* with light hitting it. If you put a rug or furniture down, the area under the rug or furniture will be light, everything else will be darker. Just be careful when having throw rugs out in the middle of very bright rooms.

It's an incredibly beautiful wood though and very durable. It's not impervious to damage though. My dog is still able to scratch it with her nails.
 

vi edit

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And yes, I can attest that you have to pre-drill brazillian cherry before doing any trim work. It bent even hardened trim nails in half without barely making a dent in the quarter round.

The installer used some sort of specialized nailer when putting the floors down.
 

iGas

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Thanks everyone.

Curupay (Anadenanthera macrocarpa) won the day @ 3840 janka.

 

richardycc

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check out santos mahogany, its hard 2000+ janka hardness, not photosensitive, nicer than cherry imho. I did my whole living and dinning room with it.