Dems Join Effort to Block Global Warming Rules

[Fenixgoon]

The ones that require approval of the town or city you build the plant in? Let people build plants anywhere they want as long as they buy the land. Too many protesters and environmental wackos block this shit.

Also, make the approval process from the federal govenrment, I think its the NRC automatic. Approve it if its a design that other countries use, let them start building, THEN inspect/check whats up after they break ground.

guess who designs those reactors? we do!

GE and Westinghouse are two of the biggest players in the nuclear reactor industry, IIRC. China has purchased a number of 1+ GW reactors from Westinghouse and is in the process of building new nuclear plants.

 

[JockoJohnson]

You can't make this stuff up.

"Great tits cope well with warming"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7390109.stm

So will global warming give my wife a pair of great tits?

 

[PingSpike]

Of course! Get rid of regulations on nuclear power, what a brilliant idea! Which regulations should we start with?

Loans are worthless. You could pay for the whole god damn thing, but you still have to get through the state and town red tape and walls of NIMBY and anti-everything tards. I don't know how it is where you are, but here minority whiner groups that aren't even based in our state have the power to permanently derail basic road projects. And you think nuclear plants are going to get built anywhere?

 

[werepossum]

I am not an expert in mining but I have a hard time believing that producing and using solar panels is "far more polluting" than mining and burning coal as it is done today. I am also curious of the "ratio" of materials needed. I deal with solar after the panels have been made and delivered. Even if what you say is absolutely true, we can either make them here with much less pollution (and jobs, economic benefits, etc...) or we can buy them from China. One way or the other we are gonna buy them just like any other source of power.

I still have a very hard time believing that pollutants released into the environment are even remotely close. A solar panel will produce power for decades with no pollution beyond the manufacturing and raw materials. On the production side, I have been told the pollutants are very manageable and rarely make it into the environment.

To be clear, I am also a fan of traditional power sources but the reality is we aren't going to be allowed to build much of it until the shit really hits the fan. By then it will be too late but it seems Mexico will be glad to take our money just like all the people who sell us oil. Again, I am a fan of drilling for our own oil but it won't happen in any meaningful way either. The lawyers own the damned country and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

At least investing in solar provides us with a real tangible asset that will continue to have value for decades to come while helping alleviate our growing power issues AND we can actually do it right now, today.

This. Solar panels currently require mining a lot of scarce elements, but compared to coal in comparatively small amounts. Coal mining is in most places extremely environmentally devastating, and burning coal produces a huge amount of semi-toxic by-product as well. I suspect megawatt-hour to megawatt-hour, solar cells are at least a couple orders of magnitude cleaner, just more expensive. Plus, although I'm by no means sold on catastrophic anthropogenic global warming, I can see a big advantage to producing less CO2. I wouldn't claim solar panels are THE answer, but I think they can really help our energy crunch.

 

[Patranus]

Don't worry. Dictator Obama will just issue an executive order to the EPA and subvert congress and the constitution.

 

[cheesehead]

I wouldn't claim solar panels are THE answer, but I think they can really help our energy crunch.

Solar panels are ridiculously expensive, and have a nasty tendency to degrade over time. Large-scale steam powered plants might technically be less efficient at converting sunlight to electricity, but they're much cheaper to build and, last I checked, neither the gargantuan reflectors nor steam turbines used wear out very quickly.

guess who designs those reactors? we do!

GE and Westinghouse are two of the biggest players in the nuclear reactor industry, IIRC. China has purchased a number of 1+ GW reactors from Westinghouse and is in the process of building new nuclear plants.

I think that Mitsubishi is the biggest player, but that might have changed. I do know that a lot of French nuclear plants (and they sure have a lot) have "Made in Japan" stamped on the bottom.

 

[her209]

Neither government should have the right to approve the location. If the company buys the land and can provide adequate security/etc then it should be able to build the plant on the piece of land it buys. It is not giving more power to the federal government. It is taking power away from state AND federal government and giving it back to the people.

Do residents have a say?