Democrats turn their back on soldiers

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Defense Spending Delayed in Congress
By ALAN FRAM, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - A $6.5 billion measure financing the military's immediate health care, energy and other costs won't move through Congress until at least next month after it became entangled in the Senate battle over broadening the rights of patients.

Senate Minority Leader Trent Lott, R-Miss., accused Democrats of rushing to finish the patients' rights bill to ``help trial lawyers, while holding our nation's security and our armed forces hostage.''

But Anita Dunn, spokeswoman for Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D., said it was Republicans who have held hostage ``every American family who believes that doctors and not big insurance companies should make medical decisions.''

Daschle was holding back the defense legislation until the patients' rights bill was completed or Republicans agreed to limit amendments to the health measure. His goal was to increase pressure on Republicans to finish the patients legislation, which is a top Democratic priority.

But as the more than two-week-long debate on the patients' bill continued into Thursday evening, the GOP-controlled House completed its legislative business and most representatives left town for lawmakers' week-long July 4 recess.

That means it will be impossible for Congress to send a final defense spending bill to President Bush (news - web sites) at least until the House and Senate return to work the second week in July.

The House passed the spending measure on June 20, while the Senate's version has only been approved by the chamber's Appropriations Committee. The two would have to work out a compromise bill that would be sent to Bush.

The House's departure also seemed to undermine the Republican argument that Democrats alone were to blame for delaying the spending legislation.

Some Republicans complained that the delayed legislation would mean the Pentagon (news - web sites) would have to begin limiting training, repairs and other activities.

Democrats discounted that, arguing that the military could move money around within its budget until the spending measure is completed.

While most of the spending bill would be for the Pentagon, it also contained funds for cooling and heating aid for the poor, for the Treasury Department (news - web sites) to process and mail tax-rebate checks, and other programs.



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Red Dawn

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Sounds like Political back biting by both sides to me. The Pot calling the Kettle black and the Kettle calling the Pot black. The title of your thread is also extremely misleading and reactionary.
 

OrByte

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Don't you just love how are politicans like to incite the masses into action. We read the article's and then we all get upset over it.

It's the way our system works folks, learn to live with it.

Or do something to make it better :)
 

OrByte

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Red- I think his title is in response to the republicans turning thier back on teachers thread.


A little "tit for tat" kinda thing.......
 

Red Dawn

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<< Red- I think his title is in response to the republicans turning thier back on teachers thread >>

Kind oif like &quot;Would you die for your Country/your PC type of situation&quot;. OK, if it floats his boat then so be it.
 

XMan

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Kind oif like &quot;Would you die for your Country/your PC type of situation&quot;. OK, if it floats his boat then so be it.

Sheesh, Red, where's your sense of humor? ;)
 

XMan

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Seriously, though, I am at a loss as to why the Senate is ignoring such a pressing issue in favor of the patient's bill of rights. Tim Stevens from Alaska called Daschle to task on it, but Daschle didn't give him much more than a snide response.
 

Red Dawn

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<< Sheesh, Red, where's your sense of humor? >>

I didn't say it so it can't be funny:)Hey with so much material you could be using to lambast the Democrats I was slightly dissapointed in this effort!
 

charrison

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Bickering in congress is a good thing. When they are bickering, they are not spending our money....
 

Red Dawn

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<< I am at a loss as to why the Senate is ignoring such a pressing issue in favor of the patient's bill of rights >>

Is it really that pressing of an issue? I mean we are only talking about a matter of 3 weeks aren't we? From what I heard that's like overnight for the Military.
 

XMan

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Bickering in congress is a good thing. When they are bickering, they are not spending our money....

Great point, LOL.

I am rapidly becoming disgusted by the entire American political process . . . I'm going to save my money and buy an island in the south Pacific. ;)

Is it really that pressing of an issue? I mean we are only talking about a matter of 3 weeks aren't we? From what I heard that's like overnight for the Military.

In my opinion, our Armed Forces have been a redheaded stepchild for far too long. One of my best friends is a sergeant in the 101st Airborne, has 10 years of tenure, and he makes under half what I do. His wife is an assistant manager at Chili's, and she makes more than he does.

That's pathetic. These people are putting their lives on the line for us at the drop of a hat; we should at least pay them well enough that they're not in the poorhourse.
 

Red Dawn

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<< That's pathetic. These people are putting their lives on the line for us at the drop of a hat; we should at least pay them well enough that they're not in the poorhourse >>

I agree 100%. I was a little perturbed that they would use this as a bargaining chip for the Patients Bill of Rights. Politics as usual which means Chickensh!t politics. Both parties are guilty of it
 

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Heck, this entire argument is pretty pitiful-(not directed at you all, i mean the politicians), considering the &quot;patients bill of rights&quot; should have been thrown out the window in the first place.

If this &quot;PBR&quot; passes as/is your employer simply stops offering medical insurance and the entire &quot;PBR&quot; loses it's power. So what happens after your employer stop offering health/medical insurance?

You guessed it! Here comes &quot;Hilary care&quot;...


If anyone here thinks HMO's are bad, wait till gov't workers are your doctors. You think the DMV lines are long... lol.......

 

Red Dawn

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<< If anyone here thinks HMO's are bad, wait till gov't workers are your doctors >>

So we are doomed to horrible medical care.
 

Moonbeam

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I wonder with the army pay being so bad are the best soldiers going into private armies?
 

BoberFett

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Moonie

I'm taking applications right now. I've got nearly a full platoon living in my basement that I want to round out with a couple of machine gunners. Just send me your resume and references.
 

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and to think that the framers of the constitution thought that political bickering would keep the feds from doing much and interfering with people. guess they were wrong about that.