Democrats To Mandate Food Labels ON FRONT Of Packaging

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ch33zw1z

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What you should be more concerned about is being such a fucking little Nancy that this would make you say something stupid like this is a Communist Nation. I'm sure any emigrant from that late Soviet Union or one of their former satellites would laugh in your face if you'd considered this similar to their plight. Get a clue!

Don't be so hard on the guy, it's only a matter of time..
 

lothar

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because marketers want busy parents who aren't paying attention to buy their kids Sugar Frosted Marshmallow O's.

I get the argument that this might be ineffective, but even if it is, I don't really see the downside to making nutritional information easier to read for those who do pay attention to it.

So with this new regulation, you believe parents will now start buying their kids Wheaties instead of Frosted Flakes or Honeynut Cheerios?

If the marketers of healthy products cared, why didn't they think about the idea of putting the nutrition label on the front of a Wheaties box instead of a picture of Tiger Woods?
Because that would have been more effective in selling the product, right?
 

nageov3t

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So with this new regulation, you believe parents will now start buying their kids Wheaties instead of Frosted Flakes or Honeynut Cheerios?

If the marketers of healthy products cared, why didn't they think about the idea of putting the nutrition label on the front of a Wheaties box instead of a picture of Tiger Woods?
Because that would have been more effective in selling the product, right?
it varies, but some do.

not necessarily full nutrition labels perse, but the bottle of milk I bought tonight had its calorie count printed in giant letters on the front.
 

ShawnD1

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The fact that it puts you Republicans in a tizzy means it is another awesome idea. :D :thumbsup:
You're officially the worst human being ever (not including hitler, don't worry). FIX YOUR COUNTRY. Don't do shit just because it makes people angry.

I think that's exactly what will happen. A lot of people live in ignorance. They are too apathetic to turn the box around and read the label. This way they'll be forced to read the label, assuming they can read. If 10% of them say "whoa, maybe I shouldn't give my kids this", then it's worth it.
People don't know what the information means and they don't care to know. I want you to ask your fattest coworker the following questions:
-what's the difference between fat, protein, and carbohydrate
-which one do I need the most of?
-why should I control my salt intake?
-what is the difference between trans unsaturated fat, cis unsaturated fat, and saturated fat?

The biggest problem is that you can't tell much about a product just by looking at the label. Nuts naturally contain a ridiculous amount of fat, so does that mean they're bad to eat? Potatoes and dohnuts are both very high in carbohydrates, so which one is worse and why? The label is just there to tell you important information that you might care about such as diabetics caring how much carbs are in something. The label is not there to help you lose weight.
 

Jaskalas

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What you should be more concerned about is being such a fucking little Nancy that this would make you say something stupid like this is a Communist Nation. I'm sure any emigrant from that late Soviet Union or one of their former satellites would laugh in your face if you'd considered this similar to their plight. Get a clue!

That the power exists in the first place is testament to my words. Today we're dictated a harmless whim. Perhaps tomorrow's whim is someone's head.

That you don't give a **** makes it all the more likely.
 

waggy

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I think that's exactly what will happen. A lot of people live in ignorance. They are too apathetic to turn the box around and read the label. This way they'll be forced to read the label, assuming they can read. If 10% of them say "whoa, maybe I shouldn't give my kids this", then it's worth it.

its a nice dream to have but that's all it is. a dream.

As i said those of us that care already look at whats in it. those that don't aren't going to read anything more then to see if they got regular oreos or double stuffed. the nutrition label being on the front is not going to change anything.

It sure in the hell is no going to force anyone to read anything more.

only thing it is going to do is force product manufacturers to spend more on redesigning the package wich will get passed on to consumers.
 

Siddhartha

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To be healthy don't buy processed foods, fresh, frozen, canned in that order. Then you can add your own choice of poison. When you get twenty ingredients listed on a label, you are not buying food, you are buying a chemistry set.

The nutrition label is a big advantage Processed, Canned and frozen food have over "Fresh" food is their nutrition labels. If you read the nutrition label you have a good idea what you are getting.
 

cubeless

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The nutrition label is a big advantage Processed, Canned and frozen food have over "Fresh" food is their nutrition labels. If you read the nutrition label you have a good idea what you are getting.

and next they'll have to print nutrition labels on each piece of fruit... omg, that orange is all sugar!!! we can't have that!!! we should have a rutabaga!!!
 
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1prophet

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Another feel good measure that fails to address the fundamental flaw that is the number one contributor to obesity and future medical problems. Being physically as well as mentally fit allows one better self control over their eating as well as other habits, no need for gimmickry such as which side the often deceptive nutritional label is placed.

The Importance Of Physical Education

By Mackie Shilstone

One of the academic trends that I find particularly disturbing today is the de-emphasis on physical education in the schools. I, and undoubtedly many others my age, remember when we were in school and Phys Ed was not a course option. It was an absolute requirement. As much a part of your educational curriculum as English, math and social studies. You took it for your entire four years of high school and every other year before that in elementary school and junior high. And, I strongly believe, we were all better off for having taken Phys Ed.

Whether you were athletically inclined or not, your overall health benefited from the physical exercise you got in gym class. Those who were athletically inclined often translated their love of physical activity into a lifelong commitment to keeping fit and healthy. Many of them went on to teach Phys Ed to others.

Most of us who are in our 40s and up remember those calisthenics we were required to perform as a warmup for our gym activity of the day. We remember those laps we ran around the track and the various individual sports we played during our 45 or 50 minutes of gym class. We remember “suiting up” and getting our workouts and feeling sweaty but exhilarated afterward. For some of us, Phys Ed ranks high among the most memorable experiences of our youth.

Today, unfortunately, fewer and fewer students are experiencing that feeling. Many states have drastically reduced or, in some cases, even dropped Phys Ed requirements for high school students. And, in some of those states where Phys Ed has been de-emphasized, fitness test results show an alarming rate of failure. In a recent year in California, for instance, 77% of fifth, seventh and ninth grade students failed fitness tests. Phys Ed, according to a newspaper column I read recently, is becoming “Fizz Ed.” Many schools nationwide have allowed soft drink companies to place dispensing machines in the hallways and students are consuming those sugar-laden beverages at fearfully high rates. This, the columnist noted, could well be a contributing factor to the explosive growth of diabetes and obesity in today’s children. “The unfit are left alone in fizz ed . . . schools with plenty of soda and no exercise,” he astutely observed.

In years gone by, if a kid wanted to hone his baseball skills he joined the Little League or got together with his friends down at the schoolyard or in the sandlot. Kids honed their skills with teams at the local gym or playground. Basketball courts were commonplace; nearly every schoolyard had one. Today, according to one of the experts quoted by the columnist, “kids don’t go to the playground anymore.”

Phys Ed and playground and gym sports taught kids the importance of working together as a team toward a common goal – namely winning the game. But it also learning “good sportsmanship” and “teamwork.” It was a group effort that entailed sharing possession of the ball. In some cases, such as volleyball, it encouraged parity and gender respect between the sexes. Kids just aren’t getting that experience very much anymore and it’s sad and tragic.

What is the answer? Obviously that lies in the hands of the schools and the boards and administrators who run them. I hope that someday soon – the sooner the better – this unhealthy and unfortunate trend can be reversed. Otherwise our young people, the future of our nation, are at risk of getting “soft” and increasingly un-physically fit. This, obviously, is not a situation in which the world’s most powerful and stable nation wants to find itself, especially as more and more countries begin looking to us for leadership, appreciation and guidance. We need to be setting the example and, to do so, we need to restore Phys Ed to its former place of importance in our schools.

http://www.justaskourdoctors.com/healthcare-detail.asp?id=23
 

nageov3t

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and next they'll have to print nutrition labels on each piece of fruit... omg, that orange is all sugar!!! we can't have that!!! we should have a rutabaga!!!
it would be kinda cool if they had like a simple nutrition breakdown near the bin label... I was surprised to learn that bananas were like 100+ calories.
 

Kirby

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How the hell could you even put the label on the front of a can of Vienna sausages?
 

nageov3t

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How the hell could you even put the label on the front of a can of Vienna sausages?
I'd guess that there will be exceptions for certain containers and smaller items (which exists today, there are several candy bars with no nutritional information on them)
 

Modelworks

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How the hell could you even put the label on the front of a can of Vienna sausages?

People that eat vienna sausages already know what they contain so they have special allowances for them .
Ingredients: SALT, everything else we couldn't sell as hot dogs.
 

Modelworks

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Another feel good measure that fails to address the fundamental flaw that is the number one contributor to obesity and future medical problems. Being physically as well as mentally fit allows one better self control over their eating as well as other habits, no need for gimmickry such as which side the often deceptive nutritional label is placed.


That is one of the biggest contributors. My generation, came home played outside, there was really nothing to do inside so that was part of it. Also if you stayed inside too long my mom would find something for you to do . Current generation, come home sit on couch either watching tv or playing games.

Yesterday I was really surprised . I was outside and heard something I hadn't heard in a very long time. Children in the backyard of the house across the street were outside riding bikes, and playing football. TV must have been broken.
 

Modelworks

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People don't know what the information means and they don't care to know.

Exactly. You can tell them not to eat something all day but if they don't care then they don't care. Nothing you do will make them eat healthy it has to be a choice they choose.

One guideline that is easy to follow, if the ingredients are made up of things you can't pronounce or you cannot already buy off the grocery store shelf, you might want to avoid it.
 

tk149

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All this label placement stuff is stupid. Our Big Brother should simply mandate that we all purchase and eat approved foods in approved quantities. This would be a completely idiot-proof method to combat obesity.

I'm sure that would make many posters here quite happy.

What's that? "Freedom of choice?" WTF does that mean?