Democrats Invade Doctors Office - Plan To Mandate Reporting Of Medical Records

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Patranus

Patranus

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A bill introduced this month in Congress would put the federal and state governments in the business of tracking how fat, or skinny, American children are.

States receiving federal grants provided for in the bill would be required to annually track the Body Mass Index of all children ages 2 through 18. The grant-receiving states would be required to mandate that all health care providers in the state determine the Body Mass Index of all their patients in the 2-to-18 age bracket and then report that information to the state government. The state government, in turn, would be required to report the information to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services for analysis.
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http://cnsnews.com/news/article/65781

Fat police here we come.

Huh, I always though that health records were very private. No so says the Democrats.
 
Perknose

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Why do you hate our armed forces so?

WHY are you willing to compromise the combat readiness of the men and women who defend us?

Are you a terrorist sympathizer! An Al Qaeda plant?

The Pentagon has spoken on this internal threat. Get on board, commie!
 
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Infohawk

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Do they have to report names along with BMIs? Or are they just tracking BMIs anonymously?
 
Sinsear

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Perknose said:
Why do you hate our armed forces so?

WHY are you willing to compromise the combat readiness of the men and women who defend us?

Are you a terrorist sympathizer! An Al Qaeda plant?

The Pentagon has spoken on this internal threat. Get on board, commie!
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Apples and oranges. Nice try fool.
 
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Infohawk

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bob4432 said:
i am sure what they tell you or us and what they actually collect will be 2 different things.
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I don't have enough faith in government to be able to cover-up something like that, do you? I have serious doubts there's going to be a fatty registry.

Real question is: should medical providers have to do research for the government? I don't think they should. If you're gonna' do it, do it in PE classes.
 
xj0hnx

xj0hnx

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Perknose said:
Why do you hate our armed forces so?

WHY are you willing to compromise the combat readiness of the men and women who defend us?

Are you a terrorist sympathizer! An Al Qaeda plant?

The Pentagon has spoken on this internal threat. Get on board, commie!
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This has nothing to do with the military, why are you deflecting?
 
bob4432

bob4432

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Infohawk said:
I don't have enough faith in government to be able to cover-up something like that, do you? I have serious doubts there's going to be a fatty registry.

Real question is: should medical providers have to do research for the government? I don't think they should. If you're gonna' do it, do it in PE classes.
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imho things can get done when it is in their interest only. they will mess w/ the numbers and have a registry of the fat asses because they will consider it a national economic emergency because it directly effects the healthcare costs. so, now you have to worry about getting on a non-listed terrorist watch list and also a non-listed "fatty" list. good luck even finding out which one you are on.
 
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DaveSimmons

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As long as they don't take away the fishing poles and table salt from the fatties.

Fatties need salty fish too!

Of course this is going to be collected anonymously and reported as just numbers. Sigh.
 
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ShawnD1

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Wait, so you're saying the government doesn't actually know obesity rates right now? Why the fuck do they keep saying things like "30% of American children are overweight" if they have no data!?!?
 
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jackschmittusa

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Patranus

You're just being an ass again. The gov already collects many stats and you benefit from it.

I am beginning to think you are feeble-minded. They track that too.
 
bob4432

bob4432

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ShawnD1 said:
Wait, so you're saying the government doesn't actually know obesity rates right now? Why the fuck do they keep saying things like "30% of American children are overweight" if they have no data!?!?
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makes for a good sound bit, or possibly it was a "poll" in which 132 people participated in....:thumbsdown:
 
Throckmorton

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The only problem here is the bogus "body mass index". Dividing weight by height to calculate "obesity" means you classify pro athletes as obese.
 
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WHAMPOM

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Infohawk said:
I don't have enough faith in government to be able to cover-up something like that, do you? I have serious doubts there's going to be a fatty registry.

Real question is: should medical providers have to do research for the government? I don't think they should. If you're gonna' do it, do it in PE classes.
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Crawl out of your cave, schools no longer have PE.
 
xj0hnx

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Throckmorton said:
The only problem here is the bogus "body mass index". Dividing weight by height to calculate "obesity" means you classify pro athletes as obese.
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It is very bogus. I saw a lot of guys in the Army fail BMI because their neck wasn't think enough, or they were in too good of shape. I had to stop going to the gym and run more to get down to 184lbs at 6'2" to pass.

blanghorst said:
LOL. The irony is delicious!
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Needs a little salt though.
 
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cubby1223

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You all know where this is leading

It's like the school in Texas which recently gave a student detention from lunch & recess for a week and had to write an essay on how wrong her actions were...

for being in possession of a single Jolly Rancher candy! Oh the horror!

Well, it's because Texas state law now allows for fining a school $2,500 if a student is seen in possession of food of little nutritional value.



I can easily see school funding soon being based on the criteria of reducing fatties.
 
her209

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Ok, so Section 101 of the Healthy Choices Act modifies section 2125 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 300aa-25) to read:

Code: 
    (a) General rule
      Each health care provider who administers a vaccine set forth in
    the Vaccine Injury Table to any person shall record, or ensure that
    there is recorded, in such person's permanent medical record (or in
    a permanent office log or file to which a legal representative
    shall have access upon request) with respect to each such vaccine -
        (1) the date of administration of the vaccine,
        (2) the vaccine manufacturer and lot number of the vaccine,
        (3) the name and address and, if appropriate, the title of the
      health care provider administering the vaccine
        (4) any other identifying information on the vaccine required
      pursuant to regulations promulgated by the Secretary, and
        (5) the age, gender, height, and weight of each person
      vaccinated to calculate the body mass index of such person.

    (b) Reporting
      (1) Each health care provider and vaccine manufacturer shall
    report to the Secretary -
        (A) the occurrence of any event set forth in the Vaccine Injury
      Table, including the events set forth in section 300aa-14(b) of
      this title which occur within 7 days of the administration of any
      vaccine set forth in the Table or within such longer period as is
      specified in the Table or section,
        (B) the occurrence of any contraindicating reaction to a
      vaccine which is specified in the manufacturer's package insert,
        (C) the information recorded under subsection (a)(5), and
        (D) such other matters as the Secretary may by regulation
      require.
    Reports of the matters referred to in subparagraphs (A) and (B)
    shall be made beginning 90 days after December 22, 1987. The
    Secretary shall publish in the Federal Register as soon as
    practicable after such date a notice of the reporting requirement.
      (2) A report under paragraph (1) respecting a vaccine shall
    include the time periods after the administration of such vaccine
    within which vaccine-related illnesses, disabilities, injuries, or
    conditions, the symptoms and manifestations of such illnesses,
    disabilities, injuries, or conditions, or deaths occur, and the
    manufacturer and lot number of the vaccine.
      (3) The Secretary shall issue the regulations referred to in
    paragraph (1)(C) within 180 days of December 22, 1987.
      (4) Each health provider shall also report to the relevant 
    department of the State in which such health care provider practices 
    the data collected under subsection (a)(5).

    (c) Release of information
      (1) Information which is in the possession of the Federal
    Government and State and local governments under this section and
    which may identify an individual shall not be made available under
    section 552 of title 5, or otherwise, to any person except -
        (A) the person who received the vaccine, or
        (B) the legal representative of such person.
      (2) For purposes of paragraph (1), the term ''information which
    may identify an individual'' shall be limited to the name, street
    address, and telephone number of the person who received the
    vaccine and of that person's legal representative and the medical
    records of such person relating to the administration of the
    vaccine, and shall not include the locality and State of vaccine
    administration, the name of the health care provider who
    administered the vaccine, the date of the vaccination, or
    information concerning any reported illness, disability, injury, or
    condition resulting from the administration of the vaccine, any
    symptom or manifestation of such illness, disability, injury, or
    condition, or death resulting from the administration of the
    vaccine.
      (3) Except as provided in paragraph (1), all information reported
    under this section shall be available to the public.

Oh and pay particular attention to subsection (c).
 
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