Democrats fear another Trump trouncing Leaderless and lacking a strategy, top party officials worry

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"The party loses its standard-bearer once President Barack Obama leaves office, and the Democratic National Committee won’t get a permanent chairman and staff until March, two months into the presidency. That Democratic power vacuum has raised concerns about the party's ability to provide a united message — or even to stand up a centralized rapid response operation — for the president's first 100 days in office."

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/democrats-donald-trump-232491

Brings up an excellent point, who's leading the Democrats and what's their strategy?
 

GagHalfrunt

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Given the Democratic leaderships last united message and candidate they chose to deliver that message having nobody in charge isn't a bad thing. Let whoever shows up to clean the restrooms make the decisions, it could only be an improvement.
 

Jaskalas

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I suggest they stop middling around with ancient fossils and look to the future.
A future where they can help the American people face globalization and automation.
Where prosperity is shared, and they vow to see it through.

Adopt the Progressive platform, drop the Neocon platform. It's not flattering to out-Bush Bush.
 
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"The party loses its standard-bearer once President Barack Obama leaves office, and the Democratic National Committee won’t get a permanent chairman and staff until March, two months into the presidency. That Democratic power vacuum has raised concerns about the party's ability to provide a united message — or even to stand up a centralized rapid response operation — for the president's first 100 days in office."

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/democrats-donald-trump-232491

Brings up an excellent point, who's leading the Democrats and what's their strategy?

I am not going to lie. This election went 180 from what I expected. The Democrat party is in complete disarray right now. Where they go will be interesting. I hope it isn't down the Bernie Sanders rabbit hole.
 

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"The party loses its standard-bearer once President Barack Obama leaves office, and the Democratic National Committee won’t get a permanent chairman and staff until March, two months into the presidency. That Democratic power vacuum has raised concerns about the party's ability to provide a united message — or even to stand up a centralized rapid response operation — for the president's first 100 days in office."

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/democrats-donald-trump-232491

Brings up an excellent point, who's leading the Democrats and what's their strategy?

So concerned in your trolling!
 
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dank69

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"The party loses its standard-bearer once President Barack Obama leaves office, and the Democratic National Committee won’t get a permanent chairman and staff until March, two months into the presidency. That Democratic power vacuum has raised concerns about the party's ability to provide a united message — or even to stand up a centralized rapid response operation — for the president's first 100 days in office."

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/democrats-donald-trump-232491

Brings up an excellent point, who's leading the Democrats and what's their strategy?
Our strategy should be to get the fuck out of the way and let the GOP buttfuck you and everyone else.
 

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"The party loses its standard-bearer once President Barack Obama leaves office, and the Democratic National Committee won’t get a permanent chairman and staff until March, two months into the presidency. That Democratic power vacuum has raised concerns about the party's ability to provide a united message — or even to stand up a centralized rapid response operation — for the president's first 100 days in office."

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/democrats-donald-trump-232491

Brings up an excellent point, who's leading the Democrats and what's their strategy?

Looking at the map, Republicans should pick up 8-10 seats in 2018 and add to the lead in the house. I don't see more than 3-5 governorship's flipping and with the way districts are, barring a Trump disaster, Republicans should hang to power for the next decade plus. It will be nice to see what the results of gutting Medicare/Medicaid/SS will be 20 years down the line.
 
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It's been very apparent that the Democrats were caught flat footed by the Trump win and they had no contingency plans ready to alleviate the damage. They're scrambling now trying to find something, anything, that might derail the Trump train and they continue to fail miserably. A unified Democrat response isn't going to happen until 2017, if then.
 

HamburgerBoy

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tbh I don't think it will be that hard to unify. All they have to do is repeat "Anybody but Trump!" for the next four years. If the economy abruptly tanks or a major scandal hits, they're probably back in power.
 

theeedude

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Do we not hear this shit every election?
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American politics can change a lot and very fast, if the party in power doesn't deliver, and more trickle down from the GOP won't deliver anything but more pain for the people who put them in charge.
Democrats need to work on a progressive New Deal 2.0 agenda for when Republicans inevitably disappoint, and start selling it now, so when they are swept back into power, they have an overwhelming mandate to pass it.
 
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It's amazing how fast it all changes. Wasn't it the Democrats who were floating just last year that the Republicans were finished? That they were out if touch with the changing America. Then Trump says he's going to run for POTUS and there was even more gloating.

Then the election. Well that ain't gloating any longer. It's time to get to work. I'm sure they will be able to get back on track. It's just going to take some time.
 

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Looking at the map, Republicans should pick up 8-10 seats in 2018 and add to the lead in the house. I don't see more than 3-5 governorship's flipping and with the way districts are, barring a Trump disaster, Republicans should hang to power for the next decade plus. It will be nice to see what the results of gutting Medicare/Medicaid/SS will be 20 years down the line.
I think you underestimate the consequences when a country with a liberal tradition elects a goon like Donald Trump. There are going to be knives waiting for that bastard everywhere he goes. It won't be long before DT is what people call the paper we wipe our asses with.

You never want to take a liberal for a ride down insanity lane.
 

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It's been very apparent that the Democrats were caught flat footed by the Trump win and they had no contingency plans ready to alleviate the damage. They're scrambling now trying to find something, anything, that might derail the Trump train and they continue to fail miserably. A unified Democrat response isn't going to happen until 2017, if then.

A bit premature?
 
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Jaskalas

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It's amazing how fast it all changes. Wasn't it the Democrats who were floating just last year that the Republicans were finished? That they were out if touch with the changing America. Then Trump says he's going to run for POTUS and there was even more gloating.

Then the election. Well that ain't gloating any longer. It's time to get to work. I'm sure they will be able to get back on track. It's just going to take some time.

The fundamentals did not change. The Presidential election is based on the failures of the candidates. Though both deeply flawed, one carried a particular economic tune to key voters in key states. One note that few others would care so much about. Even then it very easily could have swung the other way. People were too busy calling him the devil to stop and counter the msg.

As for Congress, sure... it may be tough to see the upside there, but when there's no uplifting msg or reason to get out the vote...
And when people are getting clobbered by unaffordable "affordable" care, that's going to cost seats. Middle ground doesn't work in a failing system. Bailing out the titanic with buckets is pitiful, depressing, and angers those who need real solutions. I predict Trump is another iceberg, now is not the time for more buckets. It's time for water pumps. No more middling ground to cost people time, money, or lives.

Go out there and inspire a new generation, lead them to the voting booth.
 

theeedude

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The Democrats' job now is to make sure that Trump supporters eat every last bite of the dish they ordered. They shouldn't vote for any of it, but with exception of SCOTUS nominations, if the GOP can scrub up the votes to pass it, the Dems should not filibuster. The best thing that will happen to Democrats is if the country gets the full taste of the Republican agenda. Let GOP ideologues take their Kansas "achievements" nationwide.
 
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Given the Democratic leaderships last united message and candidate they chose to deliver that message having nobody in charge isn't a bad thing. Let whoever shows up to clean the restrooms make the decisions, it could only be an improvement.

It seems like the message the Democrats were delivering was:

We love people of all ethnicities and colors except for white people.
We love Wall Street
We love the current political establishment
We love mass immigration
We love foreign outsourcing and NAFTA and the TPP.
Americans second, foreigners first

If that's their message then perhaps it's better to have no message at all. The spectacle of watching them try to blame Russia and Whitelash for Trump's victory would be laughable if it weren't so sad. The Democrats seem to be in a state of complete denial and it doesn't appear that they've learned anything from Clinton's and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz's buttraping loss.

Someone should unload a big truck full of manure on Debbie's front lawn, force her to wear a bag over her head for the duration of the Trump presidency, and point at her when they see her in public and chant "Shame, Shame!"
 
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Our strategy should be to get the fuck out of the way and let the GOP buttfuck you and everyone else.

Realistically, this is probably what's going to happen. However, I think the Democrats will get pushed out of the way rather than actively get themselves out of the way.
 

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"The party loses its standard-bearer once President Barack Obama leaves office, and the Democratic National Committee won’t get a permanent chairman and staff until March, two months into the presidency. That Democratic power vacuum has raised concerns about the party's ability to provide a united message — or even to stand up a centralized rapid response operation — for the president's first 100 days in office."

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/democrats-donald-trump-232491

Brings up an excellent point, who's leading the Democrats and what's their strategy?

It's like 2012 never happened and all was well with the Republicans 4 years ago, right?

The sad thing, here, is that many of you see this as the Republicans recovering. lol. The internal hatred seething between the party faithful, the upstart teabaggers, and the new, unwanted and universally despised Trump republicans will be glorious to watch. The only problem is all of us will suffer under these children and their bedroom disagreements.
 

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It's like 2012 never happened and all was well with the Republicans 4 years ago, right?

The sad thing, here, is that many of you see this as the Republicans recovering. lol. The internal hatred seething between the party faithful, the upstart teabaggers, and the new, unwanted and universally despised Trump republicans will be glorious to watch. The only problem is all of us will suffer under these children and their bedroom disagreements.

The Rebublican's navel gazing was nothing like what I'm seeing now.
 

dank69

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It seems like the message the Democrats were delivering was:

We love people of all ethnicities and colors except for white people.
We love Wall Street
We love the current political establishment
We love mass immigration
We love foreign outsourcing and NAFTA and the TPP.
Americans second, foreigners first

If that's their message then perhaps it's better to have no message at all. The spectacle of watching them try to blame Russia and Whitelash for Trump's victory would be laughable if it weren't so sad. The Democrats seem to be in a state of complete denial and it doesn't appear that they've learned anything from Clinton's and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz's buttraping loss.

Someone should unload a big truck full of manure on Debbie's front lawn, force her to wear a bag over her head for the duration of the Trump presidency, and point at her when they see her in public and chant "Shame, Shame!"
I assume you're a fucking Bernie-bro with that list of shit. I shouldn't have to clean the cobwebs out of "liberals'" ears like this, it's less time I can spend making fun of conservatives for believing that bullshit. I bet you even think DWS left because of the content of the emails, don't you?
 

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"The party loses its standard-bearer once President Barack Obama leaves office, and the Democratic National Committee won’t get a permanent chairman and staff until March, two months into the presidency. That Democratic power vacuum has raised concerns about the party's ability to provide a united message — or even to stand up a centralized rapid response operation — for the president's first 100 days in office."

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/democrats-donald-trump-232491

Brings up an excellent point, who's leading the Democrats and what's their strategy?
Thanks for your concern. We'll do just fine.
 
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I assume you're a fucking Bernie-bro with that list of shit. I shouldn't have to clean the cobwebs out of "liberals'" ears like this, it's less time I can spend making fun of conservatives for believing that bullshit. I bet you even think DWS left because of the content of the emails, don't you?
The Democrats that supported Sen. Sanders had more honor and integrity then the pitiful rejects that backed Hillary.
 

Sonikku

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I think the best Democrat strategy right now is to basically do nothing. Deep Social Security cuts? Fine. Corporate special interests running key positions of government? Ok. Obamacare repealed? Alrighty. You guys voted for this so I'm curious to see what you have to offer us.
 
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Our strategy should be to get the fuck out of the way and let the GOP buttfuck you and everyone else.

Dank, you' really the first one to work through the stages

Denial
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance <-----