Democrats' Blame Game Keeps Backfiring

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As I was sitting down this evening, trying to make up my mind if I should have my Maker's Mark straight up or with a little spring water, I started glancing through commentary which might cut through the inevitable chaff. So much name calling and so little constructive debate makes for dull reading. Why, I might as well be reading the Congressional Record!

I had my TV on in the background watching that cutie Rachel Maddow wink at her viewing audience. Isn't she the cutest little thing? I wonder what she will be like when she grows up? Think she will look anything like her granny, Keith Olbermann?

But, I don't want to digress, now that I finally got around to putting a few drams of water in my glass, just to bring out the character, you know?

Happening as if through providential intervention, up pops a commentary by Ms. Dana Perino, the cute as a button former Press Secretary in the prior Administration. (Why are all of those Fox female commentators so smart and attractive? And so unlike their counterparts on MSNBC. Maybe, just maybe, that is why the ratings go to FOX time after time!)

And sure enough, she gets to wrapping up with a bow on top what is wrong with the Democrat approach to getting important things done right - don't they seem to consistently ignore the legitimate questions of the vast majority of the population, prefer to duck the tough questions and instead do their darndest to make others the bad guy.

Now, is that any way to have a fruitful debate? (with apologies to Rachel, who is just the cutest thing!)

Democrats' Blame Game Keeps Backfiring

Democrats' Blame Game Keeps Backfiring

Dana Perino
FOXNews.com
August 03, 2009

Dana Marie Perino served as the White House Press Secretary for President George W. Bush from September 14, 2007 to January 20, 2009. She was the second female White House Press Secretary.

No one expects the Democrats to have a crystal ball but they do expect them to have some basic answers.

A leading House Democrat has been following me around for days. OK, not literally - but his words have stuck in my head and I can't shake them loose.

Last week, just before leaving on a month-long recess, Rep. Van Hollen (D-MD) declared, with much indignation and more than a twinge of bitterness, that they would not let the health care reform debate be "swiftboated."

That makes for a nice sound bite that appeals to the party's left wing but irritates most of America. And therein lies the Democrats' problem with getting more people to back their health care effort. When questioned on the merits of their proposal, they fall back on what makes them most comfortable-- appealing to the far left of their party. But this comes at the expense of everyone else -- they have consistently ignored the legitimate questions of the vast majority of the population, preferring to duck the tough questions and instead to make others the bad guy.

Now that they control every office in Washington, the burden is theirs to inspire and lead on major reforms they want to pass. And yet they seem to get so offended when someone wants to know how the legislation will affect them and their families.

There are some basic questions they need to answer if they're to get support: People want to know how the bill will change their own health care coverage, how much it is really going to cost, and what the benefits will be for them.

No one expects the Democrats to have a crystal ball, but they do expect them to have some basic answers. With something as big as changing a system that makes up 18 percent of our economy, it's hard to be precise-- because no one really knows exactly how it will unfold.

The most concrete answers, unfortunately for the Democrats, have come from the Congressional Budget Office. The CBO warns that the House bill will cost over $1 trillion dollars for the first ten years, that it will only cover a fraction of the uninsured, and that taxes are likely to be raised across the board.

Those bombshells sounded an alarm across the country. Instead of being comforted, Americans became uneasy. They started showing up in droves at town hall meetings, calling their Congressman, paying more attention to the debate, and raising more questions.

Instead of trying to answer the questions on the merits, many Democrats lashed out at anyone who dared suggest the proposal wasn't ready for prime time. They started blaming others for their predicament.

At first they blamed the Republicans as a party for being against reform, but the facts don't support their arguments. Especially because it was many concerned Democrats who were raising a ruckus, too. They had to find a new villain.

They pointed fingers at conservative talk radio show hosts and said they were scaring people, but the Democrats can't convincingly answer any of the questions they raise. That's not the hosts fault -- they aren't the ones charged with providing the answers.

Incredibly this past week, the Democrats found a new entity to blame -- the mainstream media. They said that it was journalists that created a "false deadline" of passing a bill by August. But the tapes of themselves pushing for August results embarrassed them and so that went nowhere either.

Now it seems they've settled on targeting the insurance companies-- probably not a bad idea politically, but it will be interesting to see if the insurance companies continue to let themselves be vilified. I'd love to be a fly on the wall the next time Pelosi and Reid place fundraising calls to the insurance company executives. I'll bet the companies won't stand up for themselves very much thinking that this is the price they have to pay to stay in business on Capitol Hill.

After a month of incessant finger pointing, there is one thing everyone agrees on. This topic will dominate in the districts during August. Tons of money will be spent-- ironically, it could help stimulate the economy more so than any not-so-shovel ready transportation projects or the cash for clunkers bill.

The responsibility lies with the Democrats to use this time to make their case from health care reform on the merits. I suspect they won't be able to do that-- and I wonder who'll be their next villain. They're running out of targets and ultimately will have no one to blame but themselves when the bill fails.
 

PJABBER

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Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
GET A BLOG

OK, OK. I promise to start a blog in that so precious little free time that I have, if you spot me about $10K to make it worth my while.

Or, I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today!

(See, I'm easy!)
 

umbrella39

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It's always entertaining to watch someone aspiring to be so much more than they really are fail at it miserably and become what they hate...
 

her209

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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
It's unpatriotic to ask questions.
All I see are people yelling at these meetings and not giving a chance for people who want to ask questions to ask them.
 

heyheybooboo

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Faux News dot com opinion piece by Dana Perino that is based upon the false premises and informal fallacies of multiple straw man arguments.

Of course, these nuggets of wisdom come from the former Bush spokeswoman who (being so patriotic) had no clue as to the Cuban Missile Crisis.

And the Noise Machine pats themselves on the back like good Tea Baggers Against Obama proclaiming their right to speak while inflicting shout-downs on others.

Let's start and end with the simple fact that the insurance lobby over the past 20 years has donated to republicans over democrats by nearly a 2 to 1 margin.


Originally posted by: PJABBER

OK, OK. I promise to start a blog in that so precious little free time that I have, if you spot me about $10K to make it worth my while.

Sez the OP who has posted 8% of the of the new topics in P&N over the last 4 days.


 

PJABBER

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Sez the OP who has posted 8% of the of the new topics in P&N over the last 4 days.

I thought I heard the President promise us FIVE days to review and to comment!

Now I am feeling a bit... let down.
 

UberNeuman

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Originally posted by: PJABBER
Sez the OP who has posted 8% of the of the new topics in P&N over the last 4 days.

I thought I heard the President promise us FIVE days to review and to comment!

Now I am feeling a bit... let down.

What do you want to debate?
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: PJABBER
Now, is that any way to have a fruitful debate?

What debate are you seeking?

Care to answer, or are you spent...

You two could debate who is responsible for running this country in to the ground, the choices are the leftist congress or this socialist president.

 

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: PJABBER

Now, is that any way to have a fruitful debate?

I'd love to see Rachel Maddow and Dana Perino debate healthcare. My money's on Maddow.

What a nice lady

I'd put my money on Barry, he has a way with words.

Either I struck a nerve with my video or you want Obama to debate... Perino I'd assume??

Why would he do that?? Why?? There is no reason for him to do that whatsoever?????????

Or have you already had your six-pack for the night? If so buzz off because I hate obnoxious drunks.

Edit: Better yet, i'll buzz off for the night.
 

UberNeuman

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: PJABBER
Now, is that any way to have a fruitful debate?

What debate are you seeking?

Care to answer, or are you spent...

You two could debate who is responsible for running this country in to the ground, the choices are the leftist congress or this socialist president.

Thank you, Bud, you've offered me the chuckles I needed.... :D
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: PJABBER

Now, is that any way to have a fruitful debate?

I'd love to see Rachel Maddow and Dana Perino debate healthcare. My money's on Maddow.

What a nice lady

I'd put my money on Barry, he has a way with words.

Either I struck a nerve with my video or you want Obama to debate... Perino I'd assume??

Why would he do that?? Why?? There is no reason for him to do that whatsoever?????????

Or have you already had your six-pack for the night? If so buzz off because I hate obnoxious drunks.

You are correct, he wouldn't, he doesn't engage in specifics unless he is lying.





 

PJABBER

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Now, is that any way to have a fruitful debate? (with apologies to Rachel, who is just the cutest thing!)

I am really wasting my best material on you guys! And if I have to EXPLAIN what I write, word by word, well, someone just... doesn't... get... it.

Now, where is that info on getting a blog set up??? (I HOPE, I HOPE, I HOPE I can make real money doing a blog! That would CHANGE everything!)
 

UberNeuman

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At this point, I have to take it that PJABBER has nothing to offer than bloated, cowardly commentary.....

/but not the balls to go further into his commentary...
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: PJABBER
Now, is that any way to have a fruitful debate?

What debate are you seeking?

Care to answer, or are you spent...

You two could debate who is responsible for running this country in to the ground, the choices are the leftist congress or this socialist president.

Thank you, Bud, you've offered me the chuckles I needed.... :D

My job here is done.

 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: PJABBER
Now, is that any way to have a fruitful debate?

What debate are you seeking?

Care to answer, or are you spent...

You two could debate who is responsible for running this country in to the ground, the choices are the leftist congress or this socialist president.

The choices are the past neocon president or the yes men congress that agreed with his every move for 6 years straight years and vise versa. See how that works. Bush ballhugging musn't be paying as much as it used to. The quality of your posts lately would indicate you can only afford the cheap beer now :roll: ...