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Democrats and Republicans in Congress: We are Ready for War with Iran

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Lifer
House of Representatives
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=hc110-362

Sponsor:
Rep. Gary Ackerman [D-NY]

Cosponsors [as of 2008-07-05]:
Rep. Rodney Alexander [R-LA]
Rep. Thomas Allen [D-ME]
Rep. Jason Altmire [D-PA]
Rep. Michael Arcuri [D-NY]
Rep. Joe Baca [D-CA]
Rep. James Barrett [R-SC]
Rep. John Barrow [D-GA]
Rep. Roscoe Bartlett [R-MD]
Rep. Shelley Berkley [D-NV]
Rep. Robert Berry [D-AR]
Rep. Brian Bilbray [R-CA]
Rep. Gus Bilirakis [R-FL]
Rep. Rob Bishop [R-UT]
Rep. Sanford Bishop [D-GA]
Rep. Timothy Bishop [D-NY]
Rep. Marsha Blackburn [R-TN]
Rep. Jo Bonner [R-AL]
Rep. John Boozman [R-AR]
Rep. Dan Boren [D-OK]
Rep. Allen Boyd [D-FL]
Rep. Robert Brady [D-PA]
Rep. Paul Broun [R-GA]
Rep. Corrine Brown [D-FL]
Rep. Virginia Brown-Waite [R-FL]
Rep. Michael Burgess [R-TX]
Rep. Dan Burton [R-IN]
Rep. David Camp [R-MI]
Rep. John Campbell [R-CA]
Rep. Christopher Cannon [R-UT]
Rep. Eric Cantor [R-VA]
Rep. Russ Carnahan [D-MO]
Rep. Christopher Carney [D-PA]
Rep. Kathy Castor [D-FL]
Rep. Donald Cazayoux [D-LA]
Rep. Steven Chabot [R-OH]
Rep. William Clay [D-MO]
Rep. Emanuel Cleaver [D-MO]
Rep. Howard Coble [R-NC]
Rep. Steve Cohen [D-TN]
Rep. Michael Conaway [R-TX]
Rep. Jim Cooper [D-TN]
Rep. Jim Costa [D-CA]
Rep. Jerry Costello [D-IL]
Rep. Joe Courtney [D-CT]
Rep. Joseph Crowley [D-NY]
Rep. Barbara Cubin [R-WY]
Rep. Henry Cuellar [D-TX]
Rep. John Culberson [R-TX]
Rep. Artur Davis [D-AL]
Rep. Danny Davis [D-IL]
Rep. David Davis [R-TN]
Rep. Lincoln Davis [D-TN]
Rep. Lincoln Diaz-Balart [R-FL]
Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart [R-FL]
Rep. Norman Dicks [D-WA]
Rep. Michael Doyle [D-PA]
Rep. Thelma Drake [R-VA]
Rep. David Dreier [R-CA]
Rep. Rahm Emanuel [D-IL]
Rep. Eliot Engel [D-NY]
Rep. Mary Fallin [R-OK]
Rep. Tom Feeney [R-FL]
Rep. Michael Ferguson [R-NJ]
Rep. Bob Filner [D-CA]
Rep. Jeffrey Fortenberry [R-NE]
Res.Com. Luis Fortuño [R-PR]
Rep. Vito Fossella [R-NY]
Rep. Virginia Foxx [R-NC]
Rep. Barney Frank [D-MA]
Rep. Trent Franks [R-AZ]
Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen [R-NJ]
Rep. Scott Garrett [R-NJ]
Rep. Jim Gerlach [R-PA]
Rep. Kirsten Gillibrand [D-NY]
Rep. John Gingrey [R-GA]
Rep. Louis Gohmert [R-TX]
Rep. Charles Gonzalez [D-TX]
Rep. Virgil Goode [R-VA]
Rep. Robert Goodlatte [R-VA]
Rep. Barton Gordon [D-TN]
Rep. Kay Granger [R-TX]
Rep. Samuel Graves [R-MO]
Rep. Al Green [D-TX]
Rep. Raymond Green [D-TX]
Rep. Ralph Hall [R-TX]
Rep. Phil Hare [D-IL]
Rep. Jane Harman [D-CA]
Rep. Alcee Hastings [D-FL]
Rep. Robin Hayes [R-NC]
Rep. Dean Heller [R-NV]
Rep. Jeb Hensarling [R-TX]
Rep. Brian Higgins [D-NY]
Rep. Paul Hodes [D-NH]
Rep. Peter Hoekstra [R-MI]
Rep. Tim Holden [D-PA]
Rep. Steny Hoyer [D-MD]
Rep. Bob Inglis [R-SC]
Rep. Darrell Issa [R-CA]
Rep. Jesse Jackson [D-IL]
Rep. Eddie Johnson [D-TX]
Rep. Henry Johnson [D-GA]
Rep. Samuel Johnson [R-TX]
Rep. Timothy Johnson [R-IL]
Rep. Stephanie Jones [D-OH]
Rep. Jim Jordan [R-OH]
Rep. Steve Kagen [D-WI]
Rep. Patrick Kennedy [D-RI]
Rep. Ronald Kind [D-WI]
Rep. Peter King [R-NY]
Rep. Steve King [R-IA]
Rep. Mark Kirk [R-IL]
Rep. Ron Klein [D-FL]
Rep. John Kline [R-MN]
Rep. Joseph Knollenberg [R-MI]
Rep. John Kuhl [R-NY]
Rep. Doug Lamborn [R-CO]
Rep. Nicholas Lampson [D-TX]
Rep. James Langevin [D-RI]
Rep. Thomas Latham [R-IA]
Rep. Steven LaTourette [R-OH]
Rep. John Lewis [D-GA]
Rep. John Linder [R-GA]
Rep. Daniel Lipinski [D-IL]
Rep. Frank LoBiondo [R-NJ]
Rep. Nita Lowey [D-NY]
Rep. Frank Lucas [R-OK]
Rep. Tim Mahoney [D-FL]
Rep. Carolyn Maloney [D-NY]
Rep. Donald Manzullo [R-IL]
Rep. Kenny Marchant [R-TX]
Rep. James Marshall [D-GA]
Rep. Jim Matheson [D-UT]
Rep. Carolyn McCarthy [D-NY]
Rep. Michael McCaul [R-TX]
Rep. Thaddeus McCotter [R-MI]
Rep. Patrick Mchenry [R-NC]
Rep. John McHugh [R-NY]
Rep. Mike McIntyre [D-NC]
Rep. Michael McNulty [D-NY]
Rep. Kendrick Meek [D-FL]
Rep. Michael Michaud [D-ME]
Rep. Bradley Miller [D-NC]
Rep. Candice Miller [R-MI]
Rep. Gary Miller [R-CA]
Rep. Harry Mitchell [D-AZ]
Rep. Jerry Moran [R-KS]
Rep. Tim Murphy [R-PA]
Rep. Marilyn Musgrave [R-CO]
Rep. Devin Nunes [R-CA]
Rep. Frank Pallone [D-NJ]
Rep. Edward Pastor [D-AZ]
Rep. Mike Pence [R-IN]
Rep. Todd Platts [R-PA]
Rep. Ted Poe [R-TX]
Rep. Jon Porter [R-NV]
Rep. Tom Price [R-GA]
Rep. Adam Putnam [R-FL]
Rep. George Radanovich [R-CA]
Rep. James Ramstad [R-MN]
Rep. Dennis Rehberg [R-MT]
Rep. Dave Reichert [R-WA]
Rep. Rick Renzi [R-AZ]
Rep. Thomas Reynolds [R-NY]
Rep. Ciro Rodriguez [D-TX]
Rep. Michael Rogers [R-AL]
Rep. Michael Rogers [R-MI]
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher [R-CA]
Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen [R-FL]
Rep. Peter Roskam [R-IL]
Rep. Mike Ross [D-AR]
Rep. Steven Rothman [D-NJ]
Rep. Edward Royce [R-CA]
Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger [D-MD]
Rep. Timothy Ryan [D-OH]
Rep. Loretta Sanchez [D-CA]
Rep. John Sarbanes [D-MD]
Rep. James Saxton [R-NJ]
Rep. Steve Scalise [R-LA]
Rep. Janice Schakowsky [D-IL]
Rep. Adam Schiff [D-CA]
Rep. Jean Schmidt [R-OH]
Rep. Allyson Schwartz [D-PA]
Rep. David Scott [D-GA]
Rep. Peter Sessions [R-TX]
Rep. Joe Sestak [D-PA]
Rep. John Shadegg [R-AZ]
Rep. Christopher Shays [R-CT]
Rep. Brad Sherman [D-CA]
Rep. John Shimkus [R-IL]
Rep. Heath Shuler [D-NC]
Rep. William Shuster [R-PA]
Rep. Albio Sires [D-NJ]
Rep. Adam Smith [D-WA]
Rep. Adrian Smith [R-NE]
Rep. Christopher Smith [R-NJ]
Rep. Mark Souder [R-IN]
Rep. Zackary Space [D-OH]
Rep. Clifford Stearns [R-FL]
Rep. John Sullivan [R-OK]
Rep. Betty Sutton [D-OH]
Rep. Thomas Tancredo [R-CO]
Rep. Lee Terry [R-NE]
Rep. Bennie Thompson [D-MS]
Rep. Michael Thompson [D-CA]
Rep. Patrick Tiberi [R-OH]
Rep. Edolphus Towns [D-NY]
Rep. Mark Udall [D-CO]
Rep. Christopher Van Hollen [D-MD]
Rep. Peter Visclosky [D-IN]
Rep. Timothy Walberg [R-MI]
Rep. Zach Wamp [R-TN]
Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz [D-FL]
Rep. Henry Waxman [D-CA]
Rep. Anthony Weiner [D-NY]
Rep. Gerald Weller [R-IL]
Rep. Lynn Westmoreland [R-GA]
Rep. Robert Wexler [D-FL]
Rep. Charles Wilson [D-OH]
Rep. Addison Wilson [R-SC]
Rep. Rob Wittman [R-VA]

Senate
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=sr110-580

Sponsor:
Sen. Evan Bayh [D-IN]

Cosponsors [as of 2008-07-06]
Sen. Maria Cantwell [D-WA]
Sen. Benjamin Cardin [D-MD]
Sen. Robert Casey [D-PA]
Sen. Saxby Chambliss [R-GA]
Sen. Norm Coleman [R-MN]
Sen. Susan Collins [R-ME]
Sen. Kent Conrad [D-ND]
Sen. Bob Corker [R-TN]
Sen. John Cornyn [R-TX]
Sen. Michael Crapo [R-ID]
Sen. Jim DeMint [R-SC]
Sen. Elizabeth Dole [R-NC]
Sen. Byron Dorgan [D-ND]
Sen. John Isakson [R-GA]
Sen. Tim Johnson [D-SD]
Sen. Amy Klobuchar [D-MN]
Sen. Mary Landrieu [D-LA]
Sen. Joseph Lieberman [I-CT]
Sen. Mel Martinez [R-FL]
Sen. Robert Menéndez [D-NJ]
Sen. Barbara Mikulski [D-MD]
Sen. Patty Murray [D-WA]
Sen. Bill Nelson [D-FL]
Sen. Pat Roberts [R-KS]
Sen. Jefferson Sessions [R-AL]
Sen. Gordon Smith [R-OR]
Sen. Olympia Snowe [R-ME]
Sen. John Sununu [R-NH]
Sen. John Thune [R-SD]
Sen. David Vitter [R-LA]
Sen. Roger Wicker [R-MS]
Sen. Ron Wyden [D-OR]


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This bill demands the President to place further sanctions on Iran, and calls for Iran to be isolated from the rest of the world, as well as a US Naval blockade of the country.

This bill is basically a declaration of war on Iran. I would expect such preposterous ideas from the Republicans, but as I have been saying, the Democrats are no shelter from the shit storm, and this is proof positive.

Rather than sticking your fingers in your ears, closing your eyes, and hiding the truth from yourselves, take some time and write your senators and congressmen.

And do it now! Today. If we wait too late, there is no turning back.
 
I think we had a thread on this bill a little while ago. If so, when I read it I thought it mostly chest pounding/posturing with no substance.

IIRC, the bill doesn't actualy do anything in and of itself - it just calls for the President to run around and see if he can get other countries to jump aboard and increase sanctions. I.e., all bark and no bite.

If this just election year posturing to see which party looks toughest on national security?

I wouldn't worry too much if I were you; there's an 800 lbs gorilla who's gonna stop any US - Iran war. His name is *High Gas Prices* 😉

Fern
 
Yeah, because gas prices going even higher due to the war drums being beat are preventing, uhhh, the beating of the war drums?

As for the "nothing to fear here" attitude, should we wait until the war starts before opposing it? Like I said, if we wait, there's no turning back. We can't just leave Iraq today, can we? If these bills are nothing, why were they written, why were they introduced, and why are the cosponsors lining up?
 
Well, write a letter if it makes you happy.

But I think you read the bill it specifically says that it is NOT to be construed as authroization/request etc for war with Iran.

I really, really have problems thinking anybody in Congress wants an Iran attack in this period leading up to the general election. War is completely out of the question (there's no reason for that, the topic is just stopping the nuke program); and I don't see us even bombing Iran's nuke facilities.

If GWB did it unilaterally, I think you might be seeing an fashioned lynching on the steps of the Capital Bldg. The Repubs in Congress will be the first in line, particuarly those up for re-election.

Fern
 
Originally posted by: Fern
I think we had a thread on this bill a little while ago. If so, when I read it I thought it mostly chest pounding/posturing with no substance.

IIRC, the bill doesn't actualy do anything in and of itself - it just calls for the President to run around and see if he can get other countries to jump aboard and increase sanctions. I.e., all bark and no bite.

If this just election year posturing to see which party looks toughest on national security?

I wouldn't worry too much if I were you; there's an 800 lbs gorilla who's gonna stop any US - Iran war. His name is *High Gas Prices* 😉

Fern
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If you recall there was never a congressional declaration of war with Iraq either, just a bunch of posturing and look where we are now.
 
Some of the reps from Michigan cosponsored but they have R's next to their names. Non of the D's did. Probably just chest thumping and will go nowhere.
 
^^ He's against as I am.

Fern, if this bill does nothing as you say, then there's no need for a bill then is it? Obviously it DOES SOMETHING.

People need to wake up. "The Democrats are going to save us!", "The Republicans will protect us!". Ignorant are we? Sanctions are a PRELUDE to war. Weaken them economically first, pester then to death with constant searches, poke and prod them to get a response so you (America) can have a reason to attack. It blows my mind people don't see this, fucking blind cows heading to the slaughter. I do not want to hear your weeping/complaining when gas prices are through the roof or you can't afford a loaf of bread because of all the money we are throwing toward wars. *IF* you live long enough for your grandchildren to be adults, explain to them how you sat on your ass and that THEY have to pay for YOUR laziness. GRRR! :|
 
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Fern
I think we had a thread on this bill a little while ago. If so, when I read it I thought it mostly chest pounding/posturing with no substance.

IIRC, the bill doesn't actualy do anything in and of itself - it just calls for the President to run around and see if he can get other countries to jump aboard and increase sanctions. I.e., all bark and no bite.

If this just election year posturing to see which party looks toughest on national security?

I wouldn't worry too much if I were you; there's an 800 lbs gorilla who's gonna stop any US - Iran war. His name is *High Gas Prices* 😉

Fern
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If you recall there was never a congressional declaration of war with Iraq either, just a bunch of posturing and look where we are now.
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Nope. That's not my recollection.

IMO, that's a bunch of revisionist history.

Use of force WAS authorized by Congress back in '03 (or whenever).

Even the SCOTUS feels the same way. They've ruled that bill WAS a declaration of war.

I'm pretty damn sure this new bill the OP brings up SPECIFICALLY mentions NO authorization of force because of that (earlier bill).

Fern
 
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Fern
I think we had a thread on this bill a little while ago. If so, when I read it I thought it mostly chest pounding/posturing with no substance.

IIRC, the bill doesn't actualy do anything in and of itself - it just calls for the President to run around and see if he can get other countries to jump aboard and increase sanctions. I.e., all bark and no bite.

If this just election year posturing to see which party looks toughest on national security?

I wouldn't worry too much if I were you; there's an 800 lbs gorilla who's gonna stop any US - Iran war. His name is *High Gas Prices* 😉

Fern
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If you recall there was never a congressional declaration of war with Iraq either, just a bunch of posturing and look where we are now.
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Nope. That's not my recollection.

IMO, that's a bunch of revisionist history.

Use of force WAS authorized by Congress back in '03 (or whenever).

Even the SCOTUS feels the same way. They've ruled that bill WAS a declaration of war.

I'm pretty damn sure this new bill the OP brings up SPECIFICALLY mentions NO authorization of force because of that (earlier bill).

Fern
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+1 you beat me to it.
 
This nations mindset these days is as if we are always right and they (whoever the flavor of the week) is wrong. A nation of people who look to judge others before judging themselves. To understand this Bill correctly, ask yourself how YOU would react to sanctions like these to your SOVEREIGN country.

Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That Congress--

(1) declares that preventing Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapons capability, through all appropriate economic, political, and diplomatic means, is vital to the national security interests of the United States and must be dealt with urgently;

(2) urges the President, in the strongest of terms, to immediately use his existing authority to impose sanctions on--

(A) the Central Bank of Iran and any other Iranian bank engaged in proliferation activities or the support of terrorist groups;

(B) international banks which continue to conduct financial transactions with proscribed Iranian banks;

(C) energy companies that have invested $20,000,000 or more in the Iranian petroleum or natural gas sector in any given year since the enactment of the Iran Sanctions Act of 1996; and

(D) all companies which continue to do business with Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps;

(3) demands that the President initiate an international effort to immediately and dramatically increase the economic, political, and diplomatic pressure on Iran to verifiably suspend its nuclear enrichment activities by, inter alia, prohibiting the export to Iran of all refined petroleum products; imposing stringent inspection requirements on all persons, vehicles, ships, planes, trains, and cargo entering or departing Iran; and prohibiting the international movement of all Iranian officials not involved in negotiating the suspension of Iran's nuclear program; and

(4) urges the President to lead a sustained, serious, and forceful effort at regional diplomacy to support the legitimate governments in the region against Iranian efforts to destabilize them, to reassure our friends and allies that the United States supports them in their resistance to Iranian efforts at hegemony, and to make clear to the Government of Iran that the United States will protect America's vital national security interests in the Middle East.
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Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Fern
I think we had a thread on this bill a little while ago. If so, when I read it I thought it mostly chest pounding/posturing with no substance.

IIRC, the bill doesn't actualy do anything in and of itself - it just calls for the President to run around and see if he can get other countries to jump aboard and increase sanctions. I.e., all bark and no bite.

If this just election year posturing to see which party looks toughest on national security?

I wouldn't worry too much if I were you; there's an 800 lbs gorilla who's gonna stop any US - Iran war. His name is *High Gas Prices* 😉

Fern
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If you recall there was never a congressional declaration of war with Iraq either, just a bunch of posturing and look where we are now.
Click to expand...

Nope. That's not my recollection.

IMO, that's a bunch of revisionist history.

Use of force WAS authorized by Congress back in '03 (or whenever).

Even the SCOTUS feels the same way. They've ruled that bill WAS a declaration of war.

I'm pretty damn sure this new bill the OP brings up SPECIFICALLY mentions NO authorization of force because of that (earlier bill).

Fern
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If another nation, or group of nations, did this to the USA, would you consider it an act of war?
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_blockade

A blockade is any effort to prevent supplies, troops, information or aid from reaching an opposing force. Blockades are the cornerstone to nearly all military campaigns and the tool of choice for economic warfare on an opposing nation. The International Criminal Court plans to include blockades against coasts and ports in its list of acts of war in 2009.
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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Fern
I think we had a thread on this bill a little while ago. If so, when I read it I thought it mostly chest pounding/posturing with no substance.

IIRC, the bill doesn't actualy do anything in and of itself - it just calls for the President to run around and see if he can get other countries to jump aboard and increase sanctions. I.e., all bark and no bite.

If this just election year posturing to see which party looks toughest on national security?

I wouldn't worry too much if I were you; there's an 800 lbs gorilla who's gonna stop any US - Iran war. His name is *High Gas Prices* 😉

Fern
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If you recall there was never a congressional declaration of war with Iraq either, just a bunch of posturing and look where we are now.
Click to expand...

Nope. That's not my recollection.

IMO, that's a bunch of revisionist history.

Use of force WAS authorized by Congress back in '03 (or whenever).

Even the SCOTUS feels the same way. They've ruled that bill WAS a declaration of war.

I'm pretty damn sure this new bill the OP brings up SPECIFICALLY mentions NO authorization of force because of that (earlier bill).

Fern
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If another nation, or group of nations, did this to the USA, would you consider it an act of war?
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What exactly do you mean by "this" and "it"?
 
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Duwelon
What exactly do you mean by "this" and "it"?
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A naval blockade and economic sanctions.
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What part of it do you want to discuss, A) what the USA would do if a country created a blockade in International waters (i assume this is what you mean) or imposed sanctions on us? B) the morality question about the USA imposing sanctions or creating a blockade in international waters?
 
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Duwelon
What exactly do you mean by "this" and "it"?
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A naval blockade and economic sanctions.
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What part of it do you want to discuss, A) what the USA would do if a country created a blockade in International waters (i assume this is what you mean) or imposed sanctions on us? B) the morality question about the USA imposing sanctions or creating a blockade in international waters?
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My question was pretty simple.
 
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Duwelon
What exactly do you mean by "this" and "it"?
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A naval blockade and economic sanctions.
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What part of it do you want to discuss, A) what the USA would do if a country created a blockade in International waters (i assume this is what you mean) or imposed sanctions on us? B) the morality question about the USA imposing sanctions or creating a blockade in international waters?
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My question was pretty simple.
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To answer your question then, imo, maybe.
 
A war with Iran will be a war that will go way beyond Iran, trust me, this isn't what anyone who has any amount of sanity in his head would want.

It would have the same result as Russia going to war with Israel.

 
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
A war with Iran will be a war that will go way beyond Iran, trust me, this isn't what anyone who has any amount of sanity in his head would want.

It would have the same result as Russia going to war with Israel.
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Don't worry old chap; if we go you'll be right there with us 😛
 
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
A war with Iran will be a war that will go way beyond Iran, trust me, this isn't what anyone who has any amount of sanity in his head would want.

It would have the same result as Russia going to war with Israel.
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That's why Bush has given Israel the "amber" light for an attack on Iran. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
A war with Iran will be a war that will go way beyond Iran, trust me, this isn't what anyone who has any amount of sanity in his head would want.

It would have the same result as Russia going to war with Israel.
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Russia and Iran are becoming serious butt buddies in terms of energy deals.

Here's how I see this going down given what I know so far if sanctions don't start working within the next year or less.

Israel is going to feel backed into a corner enough that they'll strike at Iran. It won't be a simple plan to take out Bushaer and Natanz though, it will be the destruction of multiple targets that will greatly hinder Iran's ability to bring it's nuclear plants online like it wanted. Possibly, they'll stop all of Iran's enrichment capabilities completely. At the exact same time, they will hit Iran's energy markets: Oil and Natural gas. If all goes well for Israel after the strike, Iran's economy will be all but completely shut down and their nuclear ambitions will be in crumbles. The people might revolt, but they won't be successful.

Russia will be pissed off, as will China and whoever else gets energy imports from Iran or has energy deals with Iran.

Hizbollah will strike, Hamas will go crazy, Iran will fire some missles, some will hit, some will be shot down.

The real question is how until Israel strikes. The longer they wait, the more entwined into Iran's economy Russia gets and the more they risk bringing moscow into a conflict with Israel if and when Israel does strike at Iran.

This will cause more of a shakeup in the world's economy and will lead to higher gas prices and we may all be driving moped's next summer.
 
The bill says nothing of particular substance (as it's still in committee) and does nothing close to the first steps toward war with Iran. That's an asinine interpretation, as the only way this country will go to war with Iran is if they duplicate 9/11 on U.S. soil (knock on wood). Sorry, isn't going to happen.
 
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