Democratic Primary Poll (Formerly Warren or Gabbard)

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Warren or Gabbard


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herm0016

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i'm kinda hoping Hickenlooper enters the fray. keeps hinting at it.
 
Oct 18, 2005
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Its going to be a crazy 6 months as everyone lines up. We'll have to see who wins the money primary between now and the end of the year.
 

herm0016

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You mean the guy who is being investigated for ethics violations?
Lulz.. some dipshit state house person filed the complaint and claimed that going to a free conference in Italy was an ethics violation even though Hickenlooper paid for the trip himself.


Hickenlooper is not extreme enough to survive the D primary process but I think he could be a good general candidate. social progressive and moderate on economic issues that the middle of the country cares about. some chops on gun control with universal background and 30 rd mag bans in CO. strong on social issues.

i, as an undecided / unaffiliated and living in CO would vote for him. I would not vote for warren as president. it will be difficult for her to win the general.
 
Oct 18, 2013
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Lulz.. some dipshit state house person filed the complaint and claimed that going to a free conference in Italy was an ethics violation even though Hickenlooper paid for the trip himself.


Hickenlooper is not extreme enough to survive the D primary process but I think he could be a good general candidate. social progressive and moderate on economic issues that the middle of the country cares about. some chops on gun control with universal background and 30 rd mag bans in CO. strong on social issues.
If thats true, it still taints him. I wanted to verify it was him before I went too far into research. Fairly unique name, so I figured it was the right person.
 

herm0016

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If thats true, it still taints him. I wanted to verify it was him before I went too far into research. Fairly unique name, so I figured it was the right person.
get out of the weeds and see the forest.
a single off the wall ethics violation investigation and its throw him out with the bath water, double down and do a DNA test that proves you are not what you say you are and triple down after that? Lets nominate her!

if that is how its going to play, Biden is out too, his campaign paid a bunch of fines for campaign finance stuff.
 
Oct 18, 2013
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get out of the weeds and see the forest.
a single off the wall ethics violation investigation and its throw him out with the bath water, double down and do a DNA test that proves you are not what you say you are and triple down after that? Lets nominate her!

if that is how its going to play, Biden is out too, his campaign paid a bunch of fines for campaign finance stuff.
Hillary emails remember?. His might not be prohibitive, but, it taints him. If that's all it's pretty good.
 
Oct 6, 2009
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***A NEW CHALLENGER HAS ARRIVED***

Gillibrand officially threw in her announcement last night.
Younger than Warren.
Less black than Harris.

She just strikes me as a less frigid Hillary.

This is going to be a weird 16 months.
Added her to the poll.
 

Indus

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May 11, 2002
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I think she's gonna be out after New Hampshire.
 
May 28, 2007
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get out of the weeds and see the forest.
a single off the wall ethics violation investigation and its throw him out with the bath water, double down and do a DNA test that proves you are not what you say you are and triple down after that? Lets nominate her!

if that is how its going to play, Biden is out too, his campaign paid a bunch of fines for campaign finance stuff.
Biden's got a skeleton full of closets. His candidacy will dissolve like an Alka-Seltzer.

I think every candidate besides Bernie is fatally flawed. Warren is probably the closest, but to your point her DNA test is a huge issue.
 
May 15, 2000
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Biden's got a skeleton full of closets. His candidacy will dissolve like an Alka-Seltzer.

I think every candidate besides Bernie is fatally flawed. Warren is probably the closest, but to your point her DNA test is a huge issue.
You think the career politician with zero legislative accomplishments and who's policies don't add up, math wise, isn't flawed?
 
May 28, 2007
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You think the career politician with zero legislative accomplishments and who's policies don't add up, math wise, isn't flawed?
I think he's flawed. I just don't think he's fatally flawed. To use Joe Biden as a counterexample, Biden voted for the Iraq war and was an architect of mass incarceration. Those are fatal flaws in 2020.
 
Oct 10, 1999
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I like Warren, I am ok with Gabbard, would prefer to see Sanders. Alternative to Sanders that I like is Ojeda, but I know he is fringe candidate.
 
Oct 18, 2013
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Biden's got a skeleton full of closets. His candidacy will dissolve like an Alka-Seltzer.

I think every candidate besides Bernie is fatally flawed. Warren is probably the closest, but to your point her DNA test is a huge issue.
I know the A. Hill thing. I remember his guns thing. What else is there?
 
Oct 18, 2013
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Like Kamala Harris, he's unacceptable to progressives because of his record on criminal justice.
Do you have some examples? I like Biden, but, I'm still looking into everyone that is announcing.
 

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While Harris is probably the most qualified, intelligent, cuthroat and politically savvy of all the female candidates(and well, the men who have announced at this point)...she's not the answer the Dems need. Good luck with PA, MI, IA, and WI with her. Ohio and Florida are definitely out with her. She can't win the electoral.
 
May 15, 2000
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While Harris is probably the most qualified, intelligent, cuthroat and politically savvy of all the female candidates(and well, the men who have announced at this point)...she's not the answer the Dems need. Good luck with PA, MI, IA, and WI with her. Ohio and Florida are definitely out with her. She can't win the electoral.
Any single democrat should be able to win against trump easily. If America can't collectively empty out the trash that's in the white house now, then we deserve everything and anything we've got coming to us.

2020, like 2016, will be a binary election, period, full stop.
 

vi edit

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Any single democrat should be able to win against trump easily. If America can't collectively empty out the trash that's in the white house now, then we deserve everything and anything we've got coming to us.

2020, like 2016, will be a binary election, period, full stop.
Should yes. But we are beyond reason and logic in political decisions. Fuck *your* feelings. Mine are more important.
 
Oct 18, 2013
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Feb 15, 2002
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Should yes. But we are beyond reason and logic in political decisions. Fuck *your* feelings. Mine are more important.
Add in the rampant voter suppression by the repubs and you have a Trump second term.
 
May 28, 2007
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Interesting. The damage from that I would bet comes from the Left. The Right is going to see him as tough on crime. If he does run, then he will need to find a way to mitigate the Left while not going so far as to make the Right think he is weak on crime.

If it does play out, he will have do some work.
I don't agree with that. I think mass incarceration, private prison abuse, and other CJ overreaching from the '90s are now widely seen as a huge mistake and a grave injustice. Trump's base is maybe the only group that still likes that stuff.
 

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