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Democratic Party Maintains Solid Image Advantage Over GOP

theeedude

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http://www.galluppoll.com/content/default.aspx?ci=28780

According to Gallup's annual Governance survey, conducted Sept. 14-16, 2007, the Democratic Party enjoys a 15-point lead over the Republicans in overall favorability, 53% vs. 38%.

Yep, terrorism and military security too. You can thank Dubya for destroying your party.

This year, for the first time since Gallup started asking this question in 2002, more Americans say the Democratic Party will do a better job than the Republican Party of protecting the country from security threats, 47% vs. 42%. These results mirror those Gallup obtained last October when it found a 46%-41% advantage for "the Democrats in Congress" over "the Republicans in Congress" when Americans were asked which representatives do the better job handling terrorism.

If GOP doesn't have the terrer issue, what chance does it have in 2008? Not much if you ask me. It's a damaged brand.
 

palehorse

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no doubt, this is certainly a problem for the GOP... I guess we will have to wait and see.
 

ProfJohn

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Generic Democrat vs. Republican type of polling is nearly meaningless in a Presidential election.

This 20 point Democrat victory turns into nothing when you add Hillary and Rudy?s names to a poll.
 

theeedude

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Generic Democrat vs. Republican type of polling is nearly meaningless in a Presidential election.

This 20 point Democrat victory turns into nothing when you add Hillary and Rudy?s names to a poll.

Nope, Hillary still beats him head to head.
http://www.realclearpolitics.c...resident/national.html
Plus, if the public doesn't trust Republicans on terrorism, Rudy's main issue is neutralized.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Generic Democrat vs. Republican type of polling is nearly meaningless in a Presidential election.

This 20 point Democrat victory turns into nothing when you add Hillary and Rudy?s names to a poll.

Nope, Hillary still beats him head to head.
http://www.realclearpolitics.c...resident/national.html
Plus, if the public doesn't trust Republicans on terrorism, Rudy's main issue is neutralized.
She beats him by all of 3 points... 17 points lower than the poll you are point too. Take away the NBC poll and it is a toss up within margin of error.

Thank you for making my point.
 

theeedude

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Generic Democrat vs. Republican type of polling is nearly meaningless in a Presidential election.

This 20 point Democrat victory turns into nothing when you add Hillary and Rudy?s names to a poll.

Nope, Hillary still beats him head to head.
http://www.realclearpolitics.c...resident/national.html
Plus, if the public doesn't trust Republicans on terrorism, Rudy's main issue is neutralized.
She beats him by all of 3 points... 17 points lower than the poll you are point too. Take away the NBC poll and it is a toss up within margin of error.

Thank you for making my point.

Thank you for being in denial. It will only make January 2009 so much sweeter.
 

Moonbeam

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The Republicans came to power on an anti-government theme but all they're complaints were ever about was the government they would create if ever they came to power. The way we unconsciously feel about ourselves is what we see in others.
 

Train

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the last dozen presidential elections went to the better looking man. Politics aside, most of them were so close the people who had preconcieved notions in thier head from the beginning were more than enough to swing it.

There was study in 2004 that something like 35% of middle aged women were unexplainably repulsed by Kerry on looks alone, said he was too "frankenstein" like.

Clinton beat GB1 because he died his hair to look young and wore a nice smile, he beat Dole because Dole had the same problem as Kerry, old and stiff, not charming enough (at least compared to Clinton)

The one notable excpetion I can think of is GW1 over Dukakis, Dukakis was the young looking charmer type, I just think GW1 was riding too high on Reagans popularity.

It all started with JFK, the first of the telivised debates, Kennedy wiped the floor with Nixon on looks and charisma alone.

Sad but true, but if most elections are within 5%, it only takes 5% of the people to vote on thier "gut" alone to decide the winner.
 

Hacp

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The Public doesn't know what Rudy is like. Once they get to know him, they'll see that he is 100 times worse than Bush. He alienates his enemies by publicly attacking them, and refusing to work with them. He was good till 97. Then, his I'm always right, you're always wrong attitude yo yo'd on him.
 
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Originally posted by: Train
the last dozen presidential elections went to the better looking man. Politics aside, most of them were so close the people who had preconcieved notions in thier head from the beginning were more than enough to swing it.

There was study in 2004 that something like 35% of middle aged women were unexplainably repulsed by Kerry on looks alone, said he was too "frankenstein" like.

Clinton beat GB1 because he died his hair to look young and wore a nice smile, he beat Dole because Dole had the same problem as Kerry, old and stiff, not charming enough (at least compared to Clinton)

The one notable excpetion I can think of is GW1 over Dukakis, Dukakis was the young looking charmer type, I just think GW1 was riding too high on Reagans popularity.

It all started with JFK, the first of the telivised debates, Kennedy wiped the floor with Nixon on looks and charisma alone.

Sad but true, but if most elections are within 5%, it only takes 5% of the people to vote on thier "gut" alone to decide the winner.
How lucky for Nixon that Robert F. Kennedy was shot in '68, eh? As ugly as Nixon was Humphrey looked like a Hobbit.
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: Train
the last dozen presidential elections went to the better looking man. Politics aside, most of them were so close the people who had preconcieved notions in thier head from the beginning were more than enough to swing it.

There was study in 2004 that something like 35% of middle aged women were unexplainably repulsed by Kerry on looks alone, said he was too "frankenstein" like.

Clinton beat GB1 because he died his hair to look young and wore a nice smile, he beat Dole because Dole had the same problem as Kerry, old and stiff, not charming enough (at least compared to Clinton)

The one notable excpetion I can think of is GW1 over Dukakis, Dukakis was the young looking charmer type, I just think GW1 was riding too high on Reagans popularity.

It all started with JFK, the first of the telivised debates, Kennedy wiped the floor with Nixon on looks and charisma alone.

Sad but true, but if most elections are within 5%, it only takes 5% of the people to vote on thier "gut" alone to decide the winner.

1964 election, Goldwater said that he would use a nuclear weapon in Vietnam.

1968, The Democrats lost mainly because of the Viet Nam war. Nixon said he had a secret plan for victory or was it peace.

1976, Carter, as different as he was, won because of Watergate.

1980, Reagan won because of the econmony

1992 Bush lost because of the recession and the perception that he didn't care and was out of touch with the people.

2000 the big driver was Clinton's impeachment and the crap produced by more than 8 years of the conservative dirt machine. GWB, as defected as he was, could win and did.

The war is going to be the main driver in next year's election. Perhaps the Republicans can spin homosexual marriage or illegal aliens to make the Democrats look bad. But responsiblity for the war rests firmly on GWB's shoulders and all the republican candidates, except Paul, are saying stay the course.

By this time next year, more US soldiers will have been killed and maimed, and more Republican scandals will have come to light.

 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
How lucky for Nixon that Robert F. Kennedy was shot in '68, eh? As ugly as Nixon was Humphrey looked like a Hobbit.[/quote]

How tragic for the nation and the world. I think he'd have been the last of the 'great' presidents - and possibly prevented the disastrous swing to the right of the US (and Watergate).

End of most increases to social justice, quality of democracy/freedom (e.g. Freedom of Information Act passed under LBJ, reduced under Bush), rising tide lifting all boats as the bottom 80% of Americans have received 0% of the gains in the last 25 years after inflation, ended the war on poverty which permanently reduced the percent of Americans in poverty by a third in the 60's and left it about flat since, the republican debt that has skyrocketed, the huge increase in the concentration of wealth as the top for 25 years, etc.)
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Topic Title: Democratic Party Maintains Solid Image Advantage Over GOP
Topic Summary: Public Prefers Democratic Party to Republican for handling terrorism, military security

Very solid copy of PJ type thread Title and posting.

This must be the new face of P&N, a Rush/Hannity II network with a hint of Air America here and there.

Many posts of how low Congress poll is by the right and this is the first counter act to that BS.

Will it stand or get locked is the question?
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha

2000 the big driver was Clinton's impeachment and the crap produced by more than 8 years of the conservative dirt machine. GWB, as defected as he was, could win and did.

That "dirt machine" is still alive and well.

I don't think Dems have learned how to sling the dirt as well back at them yet but they are working on it.

You can tell the "conservatives" don't like it.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
That "dirt machine" is still alive and well.

Yep, the Clinton attack machine is back. No question about it. Billary is becoming more desperate by the minute.

The question is...have they bitten off more than even they can chew?

 

Siddhartha

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Anyone else notice how a thread about how the Democrats are leading in the polls over the Republicans turned into a discussion of how people elect presidents based on their looks?

Is this another effort to divert attention away from the real issues?