Democratic Party - Clueless & Feckless - is the D party done?

[MrSquished]

Personally, I thought Hillary was the most qualified candidate in any election in recent history. (Actually much more qualified than Obama, but lacking his charisma). And again, I specifically said both the candidate and the platform matter. I think our main difference is that we disagree on how the Dem platform should evolve. You feel strongly that they need to double down on more liberal policies, while I just a strongly feel that they need to move toward the center to win back at least some of the middle class working voters and the rural vote. A little patriotism wouldn't hurt either, along the lines of "we may have things that need to be corrected, but we are still a great country" instead of dwelling on every injustice, real or perceived. .

The difference is you have echoed the comments of a couple folks who insist the candidate doesn't matter .

It's also almost like you didn't even pay attention to the Democratic platform this election nor watched the convention. It was very patriotic.

And also you're making a big mistake. Qualified is not equal to a good candidate in politics in America. And in many countries.

 

[ivwshane]

Personally, I thought Hillary was the most qualified candidate in any election in recent history. (Actually much more qualified than Obama, but lacking his charisma). And again, I specifically said both the candidate and the platform matter. I think our main difference is that we disagree on how the Dem platform should evolve. You feel strongly that they need to double down on more liberal policies, while I just a strongly feel that they need to move toward the center to win back at least some of the middle class working voters and the rural vote. A little patriotism wouldn't hurt either, along the lines of "we may have things that need to be corrected, but we are still a great country" instead of dwelling on every injustice, real or perceived. .

Edit: and do you think the Reps will not come up the the same sort of damaging information/disinformation against any candidate the Dems will put up?

It doesn’t matter if the Dems move left or right, that’s not the issue. The issue is fighting against a 24/7 multi platform propaganda machine. Unless you have a way to combat that your only hope is luck (like a fucked up pandemic response) or a Jesus candidate (like Obama, our first black president).

The democrats, as illustrated by mrsquished, don’t seem to be interested in that.

 

[gothuevos]

What a Fn defeatist.

It's Fn over, pal.

Guess you could slap on a few more "Resist" bumper stickers tho, I'm sure that will show 'em.

 

[Indus]

It's Fn over, pal.

Guess you could slap on a few more "Resist" bumper stickers tho, I'm sure that will show 'em.

Yeah still relevant..

BTW just like Latinos.. the dems are hemorraging Indians too..

Why though is the more perplexing question..

Apparently it's a big deal for them on twitter if it can be believed..

 

[MrSquished]

Not only was Biden responsible for the horiffic choice of Garland, but also keeping Wray as FBI head. Besides Garland's idiocy, the FBI helped push back against investigating Trump early on and also caused delays. Thanks Genocide Joe!

 

[Indus]

Not only was Biden responsible for the horiffic choice of Garland, but also keeping Wray as FBI head. Besides Garland's idiocy, the FBI helped push back against investigating Trump early on and also caused delays. Thanks Genocide Joe!

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Republicans atleast aim to shoot the other side, while dems shoot themselves.

 

[dank69]

Not only was Biden responsible for the horiffic choice of Garland, but also keeping Wray as FBI head. Besides Garland's idiocy, the FBI helped push back against investigating Trump early on and also caused delays. Thanks Genocide Joe!

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These are valid criticisms of Biden and other establishment Dems. They are so afraid to take the gloves off when necessary. They keep hoping the system will save us when the system is corrupt from top to bottom.

 

[Indus]

These are valid criticisms of Biden and other establishment Dems. They are so afraid to take the gloves off when necessary. They keep hoping the system will save us when the system is corrupt from top to bottom.

This!

 

[brycejones]

BTW just like Latinos.. the dems are hemorraging Indians too..

Why though is the more perplexing question..

Both groups are as socially conservative as white evangelicals. Very open to messaging that paints LGBTQ people in a very negative light.

 

[ivwshane]

These are valid criticisms of Biden and other establishment Dems. They are so afraid to take the gloves off when necessary. They keep hoping the system will save us when the system is corrupt from top to bottom.

Sounds like the deep state strikes again…

 

[Jaskalas]

These are valid criticisms of Biden and other establishment Dems. They are so afraid to take the gloves off when necessary. They keep hoping the system will save us when the system is corrupt from top to bottom.

Sad to see that it'll take a new generation via revolutionaries to punch a hole in Democrats standing by and idling with normalcy while MAGA runs around with tiki torches and no pants.
Clinging to the America that was, is a failure of imagination for what America now is. When MAGA gets rolling, it's at least time to get trolling. And more.

A proper Democrat response to Jan 6th would be Trump in prison. Not a placid endorsement via kid gloves. Biden's frailty owns this outcome. No one within 40 years of his age is going to respond to MAGA with a proper redress. AOC will be old by the time we answer fire with fire. This is the end of the road for the Clinton era of chasing Saint Reagan to the right. A New Deal starts with new people.

 

[nOOky]

I waited patiently yesterday for Democrats or at least Antifa to interrupt the counting of votes and invade the capitol. Both sides and all that.

 

[MrSquished]

I wish we had a president who wasn't so fucking clueless that I'd want to watch their farewell speech.

I hope we never have to hear from this fucker again after tonight. I'm not watching or listening, but I don't want to even see it announced in my Blue sky feed, that guy is insulting to my intelligence.

 

[MrSquished]

Just saw a news update from the guardian, that Joe Biden warned of oligarchy taking over the US. So what is this dumb fuck doing with his pal Barack? They're going to the inauguration of the oligarchy.

What A bunch of out of touch jackasses

 

[SteveGrabowski]

This is the end of the road for the Clinton era of chasing Saint Reagan to the right.

I doubt it, nothing the democrats are doing right now should lead you to believe that. Alzheimer Joe just gave Liz Cheney the presidential citizens medal, AOC got shot down on leading the party in the house oversight committee, and Jeffries did an appearance with Liz Cheney right after blowing the election. This is wishcasting, the democrats would much prefer to keep losing elections than ever let the left get into power.

 

[gothuevos]

History will not be kind to this admin. The entire Dem consultant/staffing class needs to be flushed out, but we know that won't happen. This is how you get Trump-Vance-Vance.

And anyone who claimed Trump was going to jail should refrain from commenting, at all.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1880652521301221610

 

[MrSquished]

History will not be kind to this admin. The entire Dem consultant/staffing class needs to be flushed out, but we know that won't happen. This is how you get Trump-Vance-Vance.

And anyone who claimed Trump was going to jail should refrain from commenting, at all.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1880652521301221610

You may as well be a maga when you start taking the word of mega Mike Johnson you fucking asshole

 

[gothuevos]

You may as well be a maga when you start taking the word of mega Mike Johnson you fucking asshole

What credibility does Biden's camp have, at this point?

You of all people, who never left your quaint Manhattan coffee shop, claimed what a remarkable campaign Kamala was running. Talk about out of touch.

 

[MrSquished]

What credibility does Biden's camp have, at this point?

You of all people, who never left your quaint Manhattan coffee shop, claimed what a remarkable campaign Kamala was running. Talk about out of touch.

A hell of a lot more than MAGA Mike Johnson. Look at how fucked in the head you are - taking the word of Mike Johnson over any Democrat. Fuck off traitor.

I don't even know what kind of insult you are trying to make about a Manhattan coffee shop, because I don't go to coffee shops, but even if I did, you would still be talking stupid. I'm a pretty well-traveled dude with lots of interests and I don't like fancy places either. I also don't live in Manhattan. BTW. Where do you live dipshit? Tell us where we need to live and what kind of life to have in order to have the knowledge you do. Please, tell us a bit about your life so we can expand our consciousness.

I thought she ran an overall good campaign. She had a few months to do it and it wasn't enough, and it was an overall close race. I wish she did separate herself from the Biden presidency more, and call out Trump more harshly, but for the time she had she did overall good, not amazing. Let's ignore the right-wing mediasphere she had to fight and the fucking immoral mainstream media too that framed things in completely surreal ways. Biden and senior Dem leadership is who really fucked us, not how Kamala ran her campaign.

 

[JD50]

History will not be kind to this admin. The entire Dem consultant/staffing class needs to be flushed out, but we know that won't happen. This is how you get Trump-Vance-Vance.

And anyone who claimed Trump was going to jail should refrain from commenting, at all.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1880652521301221610

Hey Dumbass, Mike Johnson is lying.

Biden Administration Pauses Review of Non-FTA LNG Export Applications | White & Case LLP

On January 26, 2024, the Biden Administration announced a temporary pause on all pending applications seeking authorization under Section 3 of the Natural Gas Act to export liquefied natural gas (LNG) to non-Free Trade Agreement (non-FTA) countries (i.e., countries with whom the US has not...

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On January 26, 2024, the Biden Administration announced a temporary pause on all pending applications seeking authorization under Section 3 of the Natural Gas Act to export liquefied natural gas (LNG) to non-Free Trade Agreement (non-FTA) countries (i.e., countries with whom the US has not entered into a free trade agreement that requires national treatment for trade in natural gas), until the US Department of Energy (DOE) updates its underlying economic and environmental analyses therefor.

DOE issued a concurrent statement explaining that this "temporary pause on pending applications will not affect already authorized exports" or the United States' "ability to supply our allies in Europe, Asia or other recipients of already authorized U.S. exports."

While neither announcement details precisely what such updates will consist of or how long such pause will last, the Biden Administration explained that the "current economic and environmental analyses DOE uses to underpin its LNG export authorizations are roughly five years old and no longer adequately account for considerations like potential energy costs increases for American consumers and manufacturers beyond current authorizations or the latest assessment of the impact of greenhouse gas emissions."

 

[Jon-T]

They will write songs about this for years.

 

[MrSquished]

It's fitting that one of the last images of Biden's destroyed legacy, is this shell of a man riding the limo with Trump to the inauguration. It's fitting he will help escort him to the inauguration of the presidency Biden was key in helping Trump win.

What a fucking dolt. Just a pathetic, delusional, lost, and egotistical moron that helped this moment happen probably more than anyone not on the Trump team or in the media.

 

[Indus]

It's fitting that one of the last images of Biden's destroyed legacy, is this shell of a man riding the limo with Trump to the inauguration. It's fitting he will help escort him to the inauguration of the presidency Biden was key in helping Trump win.

What a fucking dolt. Just a pathetic, delusional, lost, and egotistical moron that helped this moment happen probably more than anyone not on the Trump team or in the media.

When are you going to start holding the gaza cnuts and pro migrant libs accountable?

I only started that thread 18 months ago or something since I saw it coming then.. and hoped to all hell I would come across like an alarmist shouting wolf.

But no no one blames the wolf or the people.. everyone blames the boy that screamed wolf.

 

[ondma]

When are you going to start holding the gaza cnuts and pro migrant libs accountable?

I only started that thread 18 months ago or something since I saw it coming then.. and hoped to all hell I would come across like an alarmist shouting wolf.

But no no one blames the wolf or the people.. everyone blames the boy that screamed wolf.

Well, it is easy for Squished to blame everything on Biden. It is called scapegoating. Somehow Squished has convinced himself that if Biden had withdrawn earlier, the Dems would magically have won. Yes, Biden should have resigned before the convention and allowed an open nominating convention, but I am not sure anyone would have been able to pass Harris as the nominee. Her having a few more months to campaign IMO would not have changed the outcome. The Dem party is in serious trouble with their messaging, and needs a serious soul searching before the next presidential election, or even the midterms. Hopefully, though, even by the midterms the Reps will have created such a s..t show that even the out of touch Dems will be able to retake at least one house of Congress, or maybe both.

 

[MrSquished]

Well, it is easy for Squished to blame everything on Biden. It is called scapegoating. Somehow Squished has convinced himself that if Biden had withdrawn earlier, the Dems would magically have won. Yes, Biden should have resigned before the convention and allowed an open nominating convention, but I am not sure anyone would have been able to pass Harris as the nominee. Her having a few more months to campaign IMO would not have changed the outcome. The Dem party is in serious trouble with their messaging, and needs a serious soul searching before the next presidential election, or even the midterms. Hopefully, though, even by the midterms the Reps will have created such a s..t show that even the out of touch Dems will be able to retake at least one house of Congress, or maybe both.

Blah blah blah. Yes we can theorize all we want about what could have happened. And that's fine. But of course you're going to say it wouldn't have helped at all because you already have the answers.

I'm not guaranteeing the Dems would have won, that would be wrong, like you are guaranteeing or silent have mattered; but it's the only way could have had a better chance than with the shit show that was Biden and the result of him staying in.

I find it sad that people like you still say shit like this because it shows that Democrats will never learn a goddamn thing.

Joe Biden is the single biggest reason from a Democratic side that we lost this election. Period. That is indisputable. He's the one that ran even when the majority of his own party didn't want him to. He had the worst numbers. A lot of us could see that he was too old to run again, to frail. And of course that's what happened. And while Kamala Harris only lost by the second smallest margin in 50 years, Biden fucked her out of a decent shot if he had to drop out because it took so long.

And come on, riding in the limo with Trump and going to his inauguration is fucking shameful. Writing him a letter as is traditional. Fuck tradition Biden this guy is not going to be saved by dedication to tradition. You're a fucking idiot Joe and listen Barack Obama is out of touch on this too.