Democratic Lawmakers Flee Texas Again
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CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Is this a contest between Texas and California to see who can be the bigger circus? 
Do your job people.
CkG
Do your job people.
CkG
CaptnKirk
Lifer
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Looked at the re-districting plan in this region - Fort Worth area:
North of Ft. Worth there is a township of Decatur. It's future growth is dynamically linked to the north and west quadrants area-wise,
in the adjacent counties that comprise the outer edge of our urban sprawl. Fort Worth is only 40 miles away.
Redrawing of their district attaches them to the Texas side of the Red River at Wichita Falls, accross from Oklahoma 50 miles northward.
From there it runs westardly into the Texas Panhandle and then north to Amarillo - nearly 320 miles away.
No change in voting population, but the shift overwhelms the constituancy of the area that is being absorbed.
Area with very little Pro-Republican support, being dealt into a dilution of representation - for the gain of a seat.
Present boundries are those as drawn by a 3 Judge Federal panel in 2001 - year and 1/2 ago.
They actually are outnumbered on this by 17 - 15, but instead of settling for a 16 - 16 compromise,
they are manipulating legislation to strip 6 of these fabricated re-zonings of the elected Democrat representative,
and appoint a Republican replacement - without an election.
That would give them 21 - 11 domination without the benifit of an election being held to choose the delegate.
And then they get to write just about any law they want - without opposition.
The Texas Goober - Perry has said he will call another session again and again until DeLay says "Stop".
DeLay - isn't that a French name ? (or a tactic)
North of Ft. Worth there is a township of Decatur. It's future growth is dynamically linked to the north and west quadrants area-wise,
in the adjacent counties that comprise the outer edge of our urban sprawl. Fort Worth is only 40 miles away.
Redrawing of their district attaches them to the Texas side of the Red River at Wichita Falls, accross from Oklahoma 50 miles northward.
From there it runs westardly into the Texas Panhandle and then north to Amarillo - nearly 320 miles away.
No change in voting population, but the shift overwhelms the constituancy of the area that is being absorbed.
Area with very little Pro-Republican support, being dealt into a dilution of representation - for the gain of a seat.
Present boundries are those as drawn by a 3 Judge Federal panel in 2001 - year and 1/2 ago.
They actually are outnumbered on this by 17 - 15, but instead of settling for a 16 - 16 compromise,
they are manipulating legislation to strip 6 of these fabricated re-zonings of the elected Democrat representative,
and appoint a Republican replacement - without an election.
That would give them 21 - 11 domination without the benifit of an election being held to choose the delegate.
And then they get to write just about any law they want - without opposition.
The Texas Goober - Perry has said he will call another session again and again until DeLay says "Stop".
DeLay - isn't that a French name ? (or a tactic)
The current district lines are something to behold as well. However it needs to be done to better represent the state. The state is mostly republican(60-70%) but yet Texas republicans only make up about 40% of our congressman.
CaptnKirk
Lifer
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So what if it is over 65% Republican NOW what was it when the last election went down ?
What was it when the Census changed the didtricts, and that change implemented only 2 years ago ?
Those who just got in after the last election in certain districts are manipulating the legislature to their Political Agenda,
reguardless of what laws are in effect. These are not responsible people acting like adults or leaders.
So what if it is over 65% Republican NOW what was it when the last election went down ?
What was it when the Census changed the didtricts, and that change implemented only 2 years ago ?
Those who just got in after the last election in certain districts are manipulating the legislature to their Political Agenda,
reguardless of what laws are in effect. These are not responsible people acting like adults or leaders.
In 2000 it was much the same. However it was not until 2002 did the enough republicans get elected in texas to effectively redraw the map. In 2000, when normal redistricting was to occur democrats controlled the state legislature and it finally went to the courts which basically kept the current maps. The current districts are currently jerrymandered to favor democrats.
So the question is, do you want representation that accuratly represents the population or do you want to keep false representation?
Thanks for clearing things up for us outsiders. Couple these tactics with that of the Cheney bunch on energy policy, and Bush on foreign policy, and you can see the shattering of faith in our government at the hands of republicans who don't give a damn about anyone but those that line their pockets.
:disgust:
Bush is a disaster. It's time for the US house and Senate to start going bonkers too. When the Repubs send their staffers in to disrupt an election it's time to hit back. Chaos will get the people's attention.
As implausible as it sounds, maybe they just realized how much Texas sucks? It could happen. Plus, I hear Albuquerque is pretty nice this time of year
Actually the voters have spoken and that is why it is being done. Sorry you have problems with it. Redistricting has to be done every 10 years and there is no law on it being done more often.
But I guess you would be content with living in jerrymandered districts that favored the minority, as long as you were in the minority.
Okay alot of people dont know whats going on this sums it up.
In 1992 the democrats pulled of the gerrymander of all gerrymanders. Talk about creative redistricting. The republicans took them to court, in 1996 the Supreme Court came up with a redistricting plan based off the 1992 gerrymander preformed by the democrats. IE it was unfair and partisan. In 1997 it stuck after a year of not coming up with a better solution had past. In 2002 the courts again had to draw district lines because Texas couldnt get a bill passed for redistricting. While it was somewhat more fair it is still heavily biased towards democrats, as it is still based heavily off the 1992 democrat gerrymader.
What the republicans are doing is using the same tactis the democrats did for the past 130 years. The democrats cant handle it and act in childish ways shirking their responsibility. If they have a problem with redistricting take it to court.
So to some it up, the republicans want to redraw district lines that are already really whacking, one district near houston has parts of five different counties in.
Anyone bashing the republicans, google "Texas Redistricting 1992" and "Texas Redistricting 2002".
In 1992 the democrats pulled of the gerrymander of all gerrymanders. Talk about creative redistricting. The republicans took them to court, in 1996 the Supreme Court came up with a redistricting plan based off the 1992 gerrymander preformed by the democrats. IE it was unfair and partisan. In 1997 it stuck after a year of not coming up with a better solution had past. In 2002 the courts again had to draw district lines because Texas couldnt get a bill passed for redistricting. While it was somewhat more fair it is still heavily biased towards democrats, as it is still based heavily off the 1992 democrat gerrymader.
What the republicans are doing is using the same tactis the democrats did for the past 130 years. The democrats cant handle it and act in childish ways shirking their responsibility. If they have a problem with redistricting take it to court.
So to some it up, the republicans want to redraw district lines that are already really whacking, one district near houston has parts of five different counties in.
Anyone bashing the republicans, google "Texas Redistricting 1992" and "Texas Redistricting 2002".
Ummm, redistricting is done by the legislature. And no people will not be booted from office when their districts get remapped, thats a lie by the democrats. No one will be replaced until the next election. This redistricting is needed because the heavily biased(in favor of the democrats) districting should not be kept until 2012.
Zebo
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Texas Congressional map now, cut up like most states, one piece here another accross the state
Politics is nasty business and is just getting nastier... Human decenty and responsiblity has gone out the window.. Gotta worry about us sometimes..
Politics is nasty business and is just getting nastier... Human decenty and responsiblity has gone out the window.. Gotta worry about us sometimes..
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Thats at state level, there are 18 dems and 15 republicans in the US house of reps. That representation is not correct. If the districts were drawn fairly it would be 19 republicans 14 democrats. I do agree the republicans are going a little overboard with their redistricting map in the state house(the one in the state senate is fine right now). The way republicans in the state house have their map drawn up it would be 21 republicans and 12 democrats in the US House of Reps. 19 and 14 in favor of the republicans is fair. Redistricting really needs to be done before 2012, the districts are all fvcked up. I mean one district is 5 miles wide and goes through 9 different counties.
There are quite a few demographics that are not reflected in state legislatures. What's special about BS political affiliations?
The lines have to drawn somewhere and people are involved, so you are right the process is borked. And I can asure demographics are heavily used in drawing these lines.
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