Democratic hypocrites pandering for money and support

[AndrewR]

What do you think of this one, I'm Typing? From an MSNBC.com article today:


<< Gore and running mate Joseph Lieberman were in California, raising money at a Hollywood dinner and softening their tone on violent entertainment, telling the industry, ?We will nudge you but we will never become censors.? >>


This, after Lieberman lambasted the entertainment industry last week in none too subtle or soft tones? Now, THAT'S entertainment! A quote from another article referring to the Senate hearings from Sept. 13th:


<< Democratic vice presidential candidate Sen. Joe Lieberman calls Hollywood the ?culture of carnage,?... >>


Is anyone else struck by how Clinton-esque this is? Flip your message from one speech to another depending on who is writing the check?

It's funny, but it's also indicative of the type of &quot;bend with the wind&quot; policy that we're looking at with Gore/Lieberman, ie. more of the same Clinton/Gore from the last eight years.

 

[Zucchini]

Well thats one way to look at it, but you could also say that gore/liberman atleast have communication with the industry. Bush/cheney definetly do not. They just listen to those nice polluters

 

[thebestMAX]

Go Andy !!!

 

[Locutus of Board]

Hypocrisy is the homage that politics pays to principle.

 

[xochi]

Just like the alcoholic, coke snorting Texas govenor is in the pocket of the NRA.

 

[jjm]

Would you prefer to have them say that they will create more government regulations? I would think a statement such as that would warm the heart of every loyal Republican. Would a loyal Republican actually prefer more regulation for any industry? Oh, wait a minute, perhaps a loyal Republican would consent to more regulation as long as the industry in question has a history of supporting &quot;the other side.&quot;

My friend, hypocrisy is widespread. To suggest that it is just the domain of one party or another is ludicrous.

 

[PistachioByAzul]

And Gore is a pot head, a slumlord, has millions invested in the oil industry, and comes from a rich southern tobacco farming family, so what's your point xochi?

 

[JellyBaby]

AndrewR, that's just more proof positive that dems. and reps. are bought and paid for. It's disgusting that politicians enjoy playing all sides for personal gain. Say one thing, do another. Take money here, quid pro quo there. Play one side against another, etc. etc. The bottom line is they make decisions that benefit themselves first, their country second if at all.

Once again you never hear of independents or third-party public servants behaving like this. Heck Harry Browne refused federal matching dollars when the Libertarians conducted their conventions this year. Why? It's a waste of your money. Yet the dems. and repbs. (and Pat Buchanan) all greedily accepted federal funds to pay for $50,000 entertainment packages, caviar and a host of other wasteful items. All on your dollar and mine. Unbelievable.

 

[searcher]

EngineNR9:

Can you back up that statement about Gore, &quot;has millions invested in the oil industry&quot;?

The reason I ask is that I just read in Newsweek that he sold all his stock holdings when he entered Congress because he felt it would be a conflict of interest.

Michael

 

[Ferocious]

Both candidates are playing by the current shaky rules.

Gore supports MCCAIN'S campain finance reform bill for future elections. Bush does not.

Enough said.

 

[DonaldDuck82]

He probably said that. I would give that as much credit as I would him saying he invented the internet. Gore is either a pathological liar or he is severely disalutional, either way dont listen to him.

 

[PistachioByAzul]

No, I can't back it up, that's the point. I was responding to xochi's idiotic comment:

Just like the alcoholic, coke snorting Texas govenor is in the pocket of the NRA.

 

[Zucchini]

&quot;He probably said that. I would give that as much credit as I would him saying he invented the internet. Gore is either a pathological liar or he is severely disalutional, either way dont listen to him.&quot;

You do know he envisioned and pushed for a &quot;information super highway&quot; before it caught on anywhere.. so you have to give him credit for having vision. Thats NOT a bad thing. People twist the reality in efforts to make him look bad kinda pitiful if thats all it is.

 

[Russ]

searcher,

If Newsweek said that, they're feeding you a nice, steamy pile of dung. He didn't sell his Occidental, he put it in to a trust.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Tripleshot]

When you talk about candidates and thier oil holdings,it only conjurs up visions of two candidates that I think of(and I don't know if they put there stocks in a trust or not) The GW and his crony Cheney Who lives in Texas when it meets his needs, and then lives in wyoming when it meets GW needs. I still question if that script was legal. Aren't there residency requirements in Wyoming and Texas to be able to run for public office?

We sure can see how good of a Gov Bush has been. The feds are about to bitchslap Houston for not taking care of the pollution down there. It's so bad,its causing brain damage in children that have to breath that stuff.
Yep,thats the kinda guy I want running my country.Hell with the health of the children,we got to have those chemical plants and oil refineries working overtime to line our republikan pockets with all those profits.


Rant over. CYA

 

[Moonbeam]

But Tripleshot, all you gotta do is point out to them that they're killing children and they'll stop. Acource ya could try what China's doen, executing thousands of government workers and officials fur corruption.

 

[PistachioByAzul]

What about all the oil and big tobacco money that lines Gore's pockets? Seems like you forgot to touch on that Tripleshot.

 

[Russ]

Nice try, Tripleshot. Bush's democrat predecessor, Anne &quot;one taco short&quot; Richards is far more responsible for the alleged pollution problems in Texas than Bush.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Tripleshot]

Russ

Nice try Russ,but GW has been governor long enough to do something about it.But he didn't,and I would surmise that it wasn't to his politcal or financial interest to clean it up.
The point being,He DID NOT LEAD when he should have and the health of the children(as well as any other air breathing mammal)is at severe risk,so much so that it may take federal intervention to force the Governor to take action.

When he speaks about helping children if he's elected,we have his record in Texas to evaluate how much he really cares.

He will get his ars kicked in the debates and you know it Russ. I can appreciate you rooting for your party affiliation,but this guy is a fvck up. He does not deserve your learned vote.IMO. (I aint humble any more)

 

[Tripleshot]

EngineNr9

Oil and tobacco money lines a hell of alot of peoples pockets.I hope it lines your pockets. Its a damn good investment, sport. You wouldn't be eating cookies with your milk if it were not for tobacco money.You wouldn't have an unbraekable peanutbutter jar if it were not for that oil money.
Do you know what you are talking about,or are you just spouting off with the rest of the Gore bashers here? I can understand if you lack coherent knowledge of the real issues at stake in this election. Hell,I think the republicans are loving people like you and can't wait to get you in the voting booth.If you vote on emotion and not fact,your GW might have a chance.
But those who look at the real impact of the vote they cast and for whom they vote are the winners,because they take the time to learn the facts and make an informed intelligent decesion. When that happens with voters,the system works.IMO

 

[searcher]

Russ:

Can you back up your statement? &quot;He didn't sell his Occidental, he put it in to a trust.&quot;

Michael

 

[AndrewR]

And to further the hypocrisy, check this out:


<< Vice-presidential hopeful Sen. Joseph Lieberman loves to embarrass the entertainment industry by bestowing the Silver Sewer Award on entertainment entities that make a profit on smut and sex, but a well-placed source says that his wife, Hadassah, was ?absolutely terrified? about being embarrassed when it became public that she had invested in some of the companies that her hubby had blasted. >>


LOL! Now, that is RICH (pun intended). One side attacks them while the other invests! Hahahaha!

Joe: &quot;Hollywood is the culture of carnage.&quot;
Hadassah: &quot;But, honey, look at the dividends!&quot;

I couldn't make this stuff up if I tried.

 

[I'm Typing]

It seems interesting that the conservative media never point out all of the facts when they run such articles.

Fact #1: While the Democrats have recv'd about 19 million from the &quot;Entertainment&quot; industry, the Republicans have received about 14 million. You never hear about the alliances forged by Bush and Hollywood, because the media like to portray that kind of relationship as a &quot;liberal&quot; thing.

Fact#2: The conservative media never seem to extol the virtue of taking special interest money and still having your own prinicples. They seem to leave you with the thought that it is somehow &quot;wrong&quot; to speak out against the people who are trying to buy your vote. Gore and his VP have the guts to do that. GW and his VP do not.

Funny thing is, that second point is so contrary to the conservative phiolosophy that I would never expect you to understand it. Another reason why I would not vote Republican: they believe that political contributions translate directly into political fealty.

 

[jjm]

Since we like to pin responsibility on a politician for anything that happens under his/her watch, I suppose Rayguns must accept full responsibility for Ollie North and the Iran-Contra affair and that Bush Sr. must be held completely responsible for the dip in the economy under his watch.

It is ridiculous to take this position, but I see lots of unsophisticated thinking on this board. The likely truth is that there were several administrations responsible for these things (except Iran-Contra). Tripleshot offers a pretty compelling argument that essentially states that despite its origins, Jr Bush was in a position to at least start making amends, but he chose a different route. I think that is a very reasonable criticism.

 

[thebestMAX]

Unsophisticated thinking?

On this board?

Im sooo confused.