Sheik Yerbouti
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The candidates floating these ideas will never enact it as policy. This is just another purity test.
More articles have come out since. Some are calling for reparations without saying the actual word, because doing so is politically risky. CNN, WAPO, LA Times and many other reputable news sources are calling it for what it is.They aren’t even actually calling for reparations if you read the article. Just more lies from the OP.
More articles have come out since. Some are calling for reparations without saying the actual word, because doing so is politically risky. CNN, WAPO, LA Times and many other reputable news sources are calling it for what it is.
You're the real racist for saying so!
First, Gravity can be defied by thrust. Other factors do exist. My whole point was that discrimination exists whether we want it to or not. Whether anyone actually does it on purpose, or not. It is a permanent fixture for our entire species and it could be a mistake to not account for it. Even if we all looked the same, we'd find something else.
Another who didn't bother to read the article before posting.
These are the exact quotes by Harris and Warren that Fox put up to represent both supporting reparations to blacks. Ummmm.....please point out the part of either quote that says they support reparations, and remember, that word has very specific meaning when used in the way Fox is representing.
"We have to be honest that people in this country do not start from the same place or have access to the same opportunities," Harris said in the statement to the Times. "I’m serious about taking an approach that would change policies and structures and make real investments in black communities."--Harris
“We must confront the dark history of slavery and government-sanctioned discrimination in this country that has had many consequences, including undermining the ability of black families to build wealth in America for generations,” she told the Times. “We need systemic, structural changes to address that.”--Warren
Please point out the reparations Fox says they support via those quotes, because those quotes, both of which are in huge, bold words on Fox's site, are what Fox is using to say both women mean they support reparations.
You guys complain about the quibbler yet insist on playing a game of semantics. Both Warren and Harris are on record calling for policies to correct historic grievances, and even evoked slavery and terms like “generational” and “dark history”. That is the very definition of reparations. The only wiggle room you have is that both Warren and Harris are unsurprisingly light on details.Please quote me the statements you believe call for reparations.
Every news network is calling it reparations. Since you both know better, in one word define what these policies are.
Only the individual can end racism by recovering from one's own self hate. Only real self love can end hatred.
Opportunity Zones? (a la Trump)
Yes, but there are real practical steps we can take towards easing people into that journey. If we lessen the fear and the pain of daily competition against others, they might have time to find forgiveness. The pain of trickle down economics exacerbates these feelings of despair, and hatred.
Google search is even easier. Go do a search for the term reparations. Here are the articles. I am not linking them because its not like you are going to read them.Links are easy. Post some.
Why bother to prove what you know to be true? You run the risk of discovering that what is true for you isn’t what is real or is believed only by crackpots propagandists.Links are easy. Post some.
You guys complain about the quibbler yet insist on playing a game of semantics. Both Warren and Harris are on record calling for policies to correct historic grievances, and even evoked slavery and terms like “generational” and “dark history”. That is the very definition of reparations. The only wiggle room you have is that both Warren and Harris are unsurprisingly light on details.
Every news network is calling it reparations. Since you both know better, in one word define what these policies are.
Google search is even easier. Go do a search for the term reparations. Here are the articles. I am not linking them because its not like you are going to read them.
Boston Globe: Warren suggests Native Americans should be ‘part of the conversation’ about reparations
NYT: 2020 Democrats Embrace Race-Conscious Policies, Including Reparations
WAPO: Three 2020 Democrats say “yes” to race-based reparations, but remain vague on details
Yahoo: Senator Elizabeth Warren backs reparations for black Americans
There are plenty more. Go read those and report back. The only difference between the mainstream and right wing coverage is that the right wing article titles include dog whistles.
Reparations is a dog whistle and you have quoted it where used in that manner. Aren't reparations 40 acres and a mule? Your whole bigotry toward reparations, doens't it reall amount to a fear that worthless people are going to get something fro free that you had to sacrifice to attain, this being an issue because you have built your self respect on the back of your own personal suffering as a reward for it? What if reparations is amounts to social engineering such that people with nothing have an environment that leads to having nothing is changed in a way that their personal effort can actually do for them what it does for you and perhaps minus the arrogance of missing the fact that you are just more fortunate than special. What more do you think the arrogant egotist fears more than equality among all people? Your mind is all about the warfare of competition, your god, American exceptionalism. I want my god to be that Americans as a whole have a decent standard of living and time to enjoy life while we are here. Nobody with empathy can be truly happy knowing others suffer needlessly. Let's repair the system of everybody for himself and care for our fellow human beings. That will never be done with free stuff because poverty is a mental condition and it takes personal effort to change that.Google search is even easier. Go do a search for the term reparations. Here are the articles. I am not linking them because its not like you are going to read them.
Boston Globe: Warren suggests Native Americans should be ‘part of the conversation’ about reparations
NYT: 2020 Democrats Embrace Race-Conscious Policies, Including Reparations
WAPO: Three 2020 Democrats say “yes” to race-based reparations, but remain vague on details
Yahoo: Senator Elizabeth Warren backs reparations for black Americans
There are plenty more. Go read those and report back. The only difference between the mainstream and right wing coverage is that the right wing article titles include dog whistles.
I already did and cited four articles that use the term “reparations” quite clearly. You are correct that our society does not classify affirmative action and diversity as reparations, but the media is certainly choosing to characterize Warren and Harris as proponents of reparations. Do you deny that despite the media coverage that clearly demonstrates otherwise.Uhmm, considering we have lots of policies that currently attempt to correct for past injustices that nobody calls reparations I call bullshit. Do you think affirmative action is reparations? Do you think diversity programs are reparations? I suspect not.
I asked you something very simple, if you believe they are endorsing something just show me where they said it. Should be easy.
I cited four articles. Go read them.Keep dodging & making unsubstantiated assertions. This is what comes up Googling <reparations>-
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=reparations
When I asked for links you gave a list that requires additional searching.
And, uhh, support for measures to build up black communities is not the same as the conservative buzzword "reparations".
Why shouldn't we work to create a more prosperous America for all of us, anyway?
I already did and cited four articles that use the term “reparations” quite clearly. You are correct that our society does not classify affirmative action and diversity as reparations, but the media is certainly choosing to characterize Warren and Harris as proponents of reparations. Do you deny that despite the media coverage that clearly demonstrates otherwise.
You are welcome to quote where I criticized reparations. I am the very product of the social engineering you think I oppose. I was born into low income housing.Reparations is a dog whistle and you have quoted it where used in that manner. Aren't reparations 40 acres and a mule? Your whole bigotry toward reparations, doens't it reall amount to a fear that worthless people are going to get something fro free that you had to sacrifice to attain, this being an issue because you have built your self respect on the back of your own personal suffering as a reward for it? What if reparations is amounts to social engineering such that people with nothing have an environment that leads to having nothing is changed in a way that their personal effort can actually do for them what it does for you and perhaps minus the arrogance of missing the fact that you are just more fortunate than special. What more do you think the arrogant egotist fears more than equality among all people? Your mind is all about the warfare of competition, your god, American exceptionalism. I want my god to be that Americans as a whole have a decent standard of living and time to enjoy life while we are here. Nobody with empathy can be truly happy knowing others suffer needlessly. Let's repair the system of everybody for himself and care for our fellow human beings. That will never be done with free stuff because poverty is a mental condition and it takes personal effort to change that.
Because I am not vested in proving that they support reparations. All I did was point out the media narrative.If YOU believe they stand for reparations then why can’t you just show me one single quote where they say as much?
I think the media is engaging in herding activity here and their narrative is wrong. It’s in some ways too bad as I don’t really oppose reparations of some sort but that’s not what they are going for here.
Because I am not vested in proving that they support reparations. All I did was point out the media narrative.
Well they are, which is what is fueling the media narrative.You said their statements were ‘the very definition of reparations’ though?
