delta 465 watt psu, anyone try it?

[hans007]

anyone used the delta 465watt eatx psu? they are all over ebay for pretty cheap and seem to have been pulled out of dual xeon machines. since all the new boards are 24 pin eatx psu ports, would this work? its like $25 so its dirt cheap compared to other stuff out there.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...0&item=6782519151&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

 

[Cheesetogo]

It's pulled from HP computers, so the quality is probably alright, but I still wouldn't buy one. The psu is one of the most important parts of your system, and you really don't want to skimp on it. I suggest going with brands such as antec, enermax, seasonic, fortron, ocz, zippy, etc.

 

[Zepper]

. Delta has gone almost strictly OEM, so you seldom see them in the retail channel. People without long perspective of the computer market wouldn't know that Delta is a top PSU maker - right up there with Channel Well (makes Antec, Enermax, et al.) or Enhance (makes Silverstone PSUs, et al.) HP wouldn't put it in workstation level products if it wasn't quality goods.
. If it really is a dual-Xeon PSU, then the first 20-pins pinout would be the same as ATX and the 24-pin pinout would be the same as the EPS-12V standard , but I'm thinking that the X4000 could be dual AMD too so the pinout may not be the same. I think it may lack the P4-12V (4-pin square) but if it is dual Xeon, it should have an 8-pin connector that is 4x12V and 4xGround that would also work but hang over the sides of the 4-pin mobo socket so you'll need some clearance around it ditto with the ATX - if you don't have clearance off the end of your 20-pin ATX connector and /or the P4-12V, then you'd need to use an adapter (which isn't ideal in high-current circuits). Best if an adapter(s) is necessary is to pull the pins you need and put them in the proper shell - being VERY careful as to the pinout. Places like SVC.com, FrozenCPU, jab-tech, et al. have shells (in UV colors!!!) and pin removal tools that would end up costing less than an adapter(s).
. Make sure by asking the seller before buying. HP is still selling those PSUs for $150. new - so it is a steal! I'd also like to know the Amps on the Rails - looks pretty good, but the pic of the label is hard to read for me.

.bh.

 

[hans007]

it seems to be used in dual xeon (the guy is also selling dual xeon mobos, and pairs of xeon cpus). i've got an atx 1.3 supply right now, but it seemed like a good deal fora 2nd system. i also know delta is a great psu manufacturer. i'd probably take a delta over an antec, enermax etc any day of the week.

apparently it is a 24 pin + 8 pin though. you can see it in the picture. ps2 is the 8 pin.


here is a pic i found on a foreign site looking for it. http://img74.exs.cx/img74/2959/84bm.jpg

3.3 v 40amp
5v 27 amp
12vi/o 17amp
12v cpu 22amp

 

[Zepper]

That's a good shot of the label - 39A on the +12 total - pretty spiffy. I'd like to see the I/O and the CPU +12s reversed but you could probably live with it - ditto with +3.3 and +5 as +3.3 isn't used very heavily on a normal PC. But you could always tap into the other rail if needed.

Looks HOT to me - I may just go check one out for myself.

.bh.

 

[paadness]

Its actually 471 watts. Remember efficiency counts the most. What if it barely gives 65 %.

So 65 % of 471 = 306 Watts.

That is why those sexy 500+ Watts PowerMax Supplies are dirt cheap as well.

 

[Zepper]

Geez paad..., you seem to jump to confusions a LOT!!!

465 Watts of DC output MAX (you don't add the rails to get max total output - it's based on the capacity of the primary windings of the transormers - you can only hit the individual rail max ratings if the other rails are relatively more lightly stressed) - efficiency has do do with HOW MANY WATTS OF AC that is takes to put out those 465 W of DC

. Just for easy figuring let's use a 300W PSU for an example and let's say it is 60% efficient (again for easy calc.). It would take 500 Watts of AC to produce the 300W of DC. Comprende? Efficiency = (Watts Out/Watts In) x100 to get a percentage figure. Thus in my example, (300/500)x100=60%.

PowMax is cheap because they use third-string parts that only downhill with a tailwind could come anywhere near producing the rated output... Efficiency comes from using high quality parts with low parasitic resistance and/or impedence, heavy traces on the PCB, and the latest, most efficient switching regulator ICs. All of which costs money. That is also why Seasonic, for example, are so relatively expensive.

.bh.

 

[furballi]

A modern AMD system with one hard drive and optical drive will pull about 200 watts. Add another 60 watts for a fancy video card. It is very rare for a high end system to require more than 300 watts of continous power. Just stick with a brand name PSU rated over 400W.

 

[Zepper]

I got mine. Did you get yours, Hans?

.bh.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: Zepper
I got mine. Did you get yours, Hans?

.bh.

im thinking about it. seems like a great deal so far but i already have an enermax noisetaker.... but this is a real eatx psu.

i do consider delta one of the best brands though tough decision.

 

[Zepper]

Mine is supposed to be a new one. I got it from a guy in Washington state. I paid under $30 shipped! I almost missed out as it had slipped my mind and I just remembered it in time. When I got my computer cranked up to check the bid there was only two minutes to go. :shocked: But no one else was even bidding on it. So I grabbed it for just the starting bid price + shipping (which was overpriced as most PSUs will fit in a USPS Priority Mail flat-rate box with adequate padding which totals $9.00 including insurance. But I'm not arguing considering the low bid price...

.bh.

 

[Zepper]

Well, mine arrived today and it is non-standard. It is slightly larger in height and depth than a standard ATX PSU. The ATX connector is a weird one - neither the standard AMD nor the Dual Xeon (EPS-12V) pinout. And it lacks the P4-12V connection.
. Luckily I just got in a batch of PSU wiring modding stuff, so it won't be too hard to make it be whatever I need it to be.
. But it is a chunky monkey (at 6 pounds!) and WELL worth the low $$$s I paid for it. I opened it up and it has a full-sized PCB on the top AND the bottom - it'll be fun to pull those out and poke around on 'em.

.bh.

 

[Zepper]

^^^

 

[hans007]

ah thats pretty cool, probably too much of a hassle for me to replace my enermax noisetaker with that.

 

[Zepper]

Well, I modded it to work with a standard mobo and so far so good. I'm getting accurate voltages, but my little Powmax tester gives me an error light. I wonder if that is just another typical Powmax product - not worth the materials it's made from... :roll:

.bh.