Dell to release new 20.1" widescreen LCD for $289

[acegazda]

Originally posted by: xtknight
There's no chance at all that this LCD contains an S-IPS or S-PVA like in the 2007WFP. It'll be a 6-bit/fast TN panel with limited viewing angles and lower contrast. That said, it has the potential to be a great gaming LCD (if you're on a cheap budget of course).

like I said I've learned a thing or two from reading your threads xt.

 

[MBrown]

Anyone else having a problem with the link?

 

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: xtknight
There's no chance at all that this LCD contains an S-IPS or S-PVA like in the 2007WFP. It'll be a 6-bit/fast TN panel with limited viewing angles and lower contrast. That said, it has the potential to be a great gaming LCD (if you're on a cheap budget of course).

How do you know for sure it will use a different panel than the 2007WFP? It's possible it is the exact same in every way except the lack of USB, composite, and S-video.

 

[keeleysam]

Originally posted by: archcommus

Originally posted by: xtknight
There's no chance at all that this LCD contains an S-IPS or S-PVA like in the 2007WFP. It'll be a 6-bit/fast TN panel with limited viewing angles and lower contrast. That said, it has the potential to be a great gaming LCD (if you're on a cheap budget of course).

How do you know for sure it will use a different panel than the 2007WFP? It's possible it is the exact same in every way except the lack of USB, composite, and S-video.

The reason for this is cost. S-IPS and S-PVA panels are significantly more expensive than the TN panels.

A 5ms 8-bit panel would send Dell into the red at this price.

 

[acegazda]

I believe the lowest response of any 8-bit panel is the 6ms on the NEC 20wsgx2.

 

[GimpyFuzznut]

Does anyone know if this monitor can display black bars (based on other Dell monitors)? I hate %^# LCD monitors that just stretch non-native resolutions and completely distort the image. Obviously for gaming purposes, that completely sucks balls. From what I understand, Dell monitors allow you to stretch the image or display them 1:1? Any ideas?

I would be all over that Samsung monitor for the same price but from I understand, it only displays native resolution properly. Black bars are a good thing dammit!

 

[archcommus]

I can't decide if a faster 6-bit or a slower 8-bit panel is preferable for a new widescreen for gaming!!

 

[keeleysam]

Originally posted by: GimpyFuzznut
Does anyone know if this monitor can display black bars (based on other Dell monitors)? I hate %^# LCD monitors that just stretch non-native resolutions and completely distort the image. Obviously for gaming purposes, that completely sucks balls. From what I understand, Dell monitors allow you to stretch the image or display them 1:1? Any ideas?

I would be all over that Samsung monitor for the same price but from I understand, it only displays native resolution properly. Black bars are a good thing dammit!

I've owned many different models of Dell LCDs, and they all have three modes:

1. 1:1 (What you want)
2. Fill (What you hate)
3. Aspect (Displays with full height or width with bars)

 

[acegazda]

Originally posted by: archcommus
I can't decide if a faster 6-bit or a slower 8-bit panel is preferable for a new widescreen for gaming!!

well, 8 bit panels with like 16ms response are known to perform the same in gaming as 6 bit panels with 8ms response, so I guess it depends on what you're using the monitor for as a whole. If you use it soley for gaming, then get the 6 bit tn panel. These are also less expensive. If you do photo/video editing and watch lots of movies with some games too, then a more expensive 8 bit panel might be worth it.

 

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: acegazda

Originally posted by: archcommus
I can't decide if a faster 6-bit or a slower 8-bit panel is preferable for a new widescreen for gaming!!

well, 8 bit panels with like 16ms response are known to perform the same in gaming as 6 bit panels with 8ms response, so I guess it depends on what you're using the monitor for as a whole. If you use it soley for gaming, then get the 6 bit tn panel. These are also less expensive. If you do photo/video editing and watch lots of movies with some games too, then a more expensive 8 bit panel might be worth it.

Hmm, hard to decide. On one hand, I'd say 16 ms would be okay for me if you say they perform similarly, and I'm not a ghosting nut, and 8-bit might be nice, but OTOH, I don't do photo or video editing at all, so why sacrifice speed for better color reproduction that I may not even notice or need.

 

[xtknight]

Finalized specs: http://www.dell.com/content/products/pr.../monitor_e207wfp?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd

Viewing angle: 160/160 (TN)

 

[Heartbreaker]

Yes this is ultra cost reduced:

TN panel - The least expensive type.
Much fewer input connections. No S-Video, no composite.
No PIP. Might not have scaling option (aspect, 1:1) (other cheap Dell TNs don't)
Simple non adjustable stand (no pivot to portrait, no height adjustment).

Does it come with a DVI cable?

Anyway this is going to be the cheapest 20" on the market, Dell is going sell trainloads of them.

 

[videopho]

Originally posted by: guidryp

Does it come with a DVI cable?

Anyway this is going to be the cheapest 20" on the market, Dell is going sell trainloads of them.
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1) All Dell monitors with dvi input comes with one, this one should be no difference

2) Won't last for long. The other retailers are watching and expect the price war amongst the 20" w/s from now and should last well into Xmas time frame which is great for consumers.

Spec

 

[w00t]

nice monitor speacially for the price, I already have a 2005FPW though and I don't use the USB HUB/Composite/S-video

 

[n7]

I am kinda annoyed at the influx of cheapo 20" WS LCDs...

Not because low prices are bad obviously, but because they're all crappy TNs :frown:
I had hoped to see the larger displays come down in price, but i'm thinking of the good ones (S-IPS/S-PVA, etc.)

Of course, that hasn't happened

 

[MrX8503]

Originally posted by: archcommus

Originally posted by: acegazda

Originally posted by: archcommus
I want to know if this panel is 8-bit or not.

It's a tn panel so... no.

Are you sure? Wouldn't it use the same panel as the 2007WFP? And that model claims to have 16.7 million colors. I was under the impression 16.7 million equates to 8-bit and 16.2 million equates to 6-bit.

Does it even matter much? I'm happy with the colors on my 6-bit display.

Why would it use the same panel as a 2007wfp for a cheaper price? Obviously this cheap price point points to a TN panel.

Also 16.7million colors does not mean true 8-bit.

If your just an avg joe, then i'm thinking 8 bit wont matter much.