[Dell] There Must be a way!

[Rdavido]

Before you say that it is impossible to OC a Dell, think for a moment of all the possibilites there might be.
For example, modding the bios for the programming savvy, or maybe hardmodding with a dim or five.

What I am saying, or challenging this community to do is something others haven't had the guts to openly do (that I have seen).

I am asking that, if you're brave enough, to find a true way to unlock the Dell Bios and OC the living daylights out of it.

If it can be done, the world will be a better place.

 

[ElFenix]

not only did i overclock a dell, but i put an athlon inside it! :Q

 

[Rdavido]

Well please, share how you did it, because myself and others would like to know

 

[Accord99]

Don't need to unlock the bios, you can do it in software. Not as good as an enthusiast board though as you can't modify voltages and memory settings.

http://www.redflagdeals.net/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=12&t=51779&hl=guide&s=

 

[Rdavido]

I have a cypress CY2200- PLL, which according to CPUCool isn't good.
This is on a Dimension 8100.
Any help?

 

[TGHI]

I had a Dell dimenison 4200 (or something like that, notice how I said 'HAD"). It was a PIII 1.0Ghz - and utterly impossible to overclock. What I can suggest to you is that you find the real BIOS for your board (in my case it was an Intel BIOS...but good luck navigating the Intel site) and flash it over the Dell BIOS. It can give you some extra bells and whistles to play with. OR, a program like SoftFSB might work if it has a supported chipset.

The entire point of a Dell is supply non-computer savvy users (mostly families) with a cheap PC that is easy to maintain. Imagine the pains that customer support would have if every Jonny Dumbarse started messing with voltage and clockspeeds on their dad's computer. I rest my case.


TGHI

 

[Falloutboy]

dude if you want to overclock don't get a dell. its just not smart

 

[Deskstar]

A Dell is constructed for those who do not want to overclock. So, don't fight it. Often if you price the components that Dell offers (which usually includes the latest CPUs), their total price is lower than what you would pay to assemble those same components.

 

[Deskstar]

A Dell is constructed for those who do not want to overclock. So, don't fight it. Often if you price the components that Dell offers (which usually includes the latest CPUs), their total price is lower than what you would pay to assemble those same components.

 

[ElFenix]

linky for j00!

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
linky for j00!

Dude! You're getting a Dell!!......NOT!!!!

 

[smahoney]

Custom for me. Dell for my wife

 

[Zap]

Certain CPU/chipset combos can also be overclocked using pin mods. I've overclocked a Toshiba notebook that way, a Celeron 2.0@2.66, by breaking off a pin. I've also overclocked many socket 370 Celerons that way.

http://207.215.129.246/computer/fsbpinmod.html

 

[Rdavido]

How about my Dell Socket 423 P4 1.3GHZ?

Would I be safe to try this?

Dell Dimension 8100
256MB RDRAM PC600
Socket 423
Pentium 4 1.3GHz

I won't do anything until you give me the OK

 

[mechBgon]

To the best of my recollection, RDRAM-based systems are just not very conducive to overclocking, period... Dell or otherwise. If you have an actual need for more CPU power, as opposed to just wanting to OC for the sake of OC'ing, then it's time to upgrade, bro.

 

[RussianSensation]

Originally posted by: Rdavido
How about my Dell Socket 423 P4 1.3GHZ?

Would I be safe to try this?

Dell Dimension 8100
256MB RDRAM PC600
Socket 423
Pentium 4 1.3GHz

I won't do anything until you give me the OK

Why? If you feel your computer is too slow right now, even if you overclock it to 2.0 ghz it will still be too slow because you only have 256mb or RAM. I can't even imagine what videocard you have in there, on top of the fact that your Ram is expensive hard to find and is a waste of money to upgrade since it cannot be reused in the future.

Build yourself a new rig and then experiment and enjoy overclocking it. How about get yourself that cheap XP mobile and your system will cost you $600 for a sick ass gaming rig and you'll experience overclocking to the max while you are at it.

 

[Falloutboy]

or keep your drives and case and put this in it

2400XP MObile 77
NF7-S 80
512mb PC3200 80
Radeon 9600XT 150

total upgrade: 380
and you have a darn nice system

Originally posted by: RussianSensation

Originally posted by: Rdavido
How about my Dell Socket 423 P4 1.3GHZ?

Would I be safe to try this?

Dell Dimension 8100
256MB RDRAM PC600
Socket 423
Pentium 4 1.3GHz

I won't do anything until you give me the OK

Why? If you feel your computer is too slow right now, even if you overclock it to 2.0 ghz it will still be too slow because you only have 256mb or RAM. I can't even imagine what videocard you have in there, on top of the fact that your Ram is expensive hard to find and is a waste of money to upgrade since it cannot be reused in the future.

Build yourself a new rig and then experiment and enjoy overclocking it. How about get yourself that cheap XP mobile and your system will cost you $600 for a sick ass gaming rig and you'll experience overclocking to the max while you are at it.

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: Falloutboy525
or keep your drives and case and put this in it

2400XP MObile 77
NF7-S 80
512mb PC3200 80
Radeon 9600XT 150

total upgrade: 380
and you have a darn nice system

Originally posted by: RussianSensation

Originally posted by: Rdavido
How about my Dell Socket 423 P4 1.3GHZ?

Would I be safe to try this?

Dell Dimension 8100
256MB RDRAM PC600
Socket 423
Pentium 4 1.3GHz

I won't do anything until you give me the OK

Why? If you feel your computer is too slow right now, even if you overclock it to 2.0 ghz it will still be too slow because you only have 256mb or RAM. I can't even imagine what videocard you have in there, on top of the fact that your Ram is expensive hard to find and is a waste of money to upgrade since it cannot be reused in the future.

Build yourself a new rig and then experiment and enjoy overclocking it. How about get yourself that cheap XP mobile and your system will cost you $600 for a sick ass gaming rig and you'll experience overclocking to the max while you are at it.

Add a decent-quality ATX PSU to that list, since the 8100 uses a proprietary PSU. Hopefully the chassis will accept standard size/shape ATX PSUs. I guess Rdavido can check that without too much difficulty.

 

[Rdavido]

Trust me, an upgrade is on the horizon. But not until May. In may DDR-II + PCI Express will make everything all better

I am on a G4 Ti4200 128MB video card btw.
And Dell is sending me 256MB of more free memory to make 512MB. Maybe I can hold on.

In response to fatboy, will that motherboard fit in the Dell 8100 case?
If so, I may just upgrade.

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: Rdavido
Trust me, an upgrade is on the horizon. But not until May. In may DDR-II + PCI Express will make everything all better

I am on a G4 Ti4200 128MB video card btw.
And Dell is sending me 256MB of more free memory to make 512MB. Maybe I can hold on.

In response to fatboy, will that motherboard fit in the Dell 8100 case?
If so, I may just upgrade.

Since you need a new power supply anyway, you might as well snag yourself a nice Antec Sonata or SLK3700BQE, which have nice-quality 380W/350W power supplies in them. Both of them are standard ATX cases and will leave you the option to upgrade again later, unless you want a BTX-format board later.

In May DDR-II + PCI Express will make everything all better

Uh... yes, but May of what year? You priced DDR-II yet? Hehe...

 

[Rdavido]

hehhehe.
Well, I was looking at the Aspire X-Dreamer II. Those cases are real nice also.

DDR-II!!!!...what kind of price am i looking at?

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: Rdavido
DDR-II!!!!...what kind of price am i looking at?

I'll assume you're sitting down. Click this ---> :Q


Actually, if you follow the link at the bottom of XBit Labs' page that talks about the Corsair DDR-II, it's not so outrageously priced, but still, that is something to consider. It's not like DDR-II is expected to be faster initially, either... see the AnandTech article here for perspective on what DDR-II's going to bring to the table. Basically it lays the groundwork for a future where it might actually be faster than DDR.

 

[Rdavido]

Also, rambus is making a comeback.
I read about the XDR - 12GB/s bandwidth.
Pretty nice.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Falloutboy525[/i]
or keep your drives and case and put this in it

2400XP MObile 77
NF7-S 80 Where?
512mb PC3200 80 Switch to bh-5 buffalo $88
Radeon 9600XT 150 9700pro is only 195 or 9800pro is only $210 at newegg

total upgrade: 380 What about PS? Dells come with 250-300 watters not condusive to OC
and you have a darn nice system HSF, additiional cooling?

Build you own and ebay the dell IMO

 

[JSniper33]

Last I knew Dell power supplies didnt work with standard motherboards either....Something about they changed the way the pins were setup in their ATX connector. Maybe this isnt true anymore though...