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dell p3 733 upgrade to new 900 celeron?!?!?!?!

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i was wondering if it is possible to upgrade my dell p3 733 w/ 820 chipset to a brand new celeron 900??..i was planning on upgrading to a p3 933 or 1gig, but those options are too expensive as a cel 900(fastest i think) costs about half that of the p3.
my p3 is a slot1, i could always use a slot1 to socket370 if hat's an issue right?

thax

edit: please PM, post or e-mail me at ello13@juno.com w/ any help
thx again
 
Assuming that model will support 900MHZ. Dell may not have included that support in their BIOS. You would need a Slocket as the Celery's are sockets.
 
How is that an "upgrade"?

A 733MHz P3 (133MHz bus) ---> 900MHz Celeron (100MHz bus) is a downgrade in all aspects.
 
You could go that route, but you're not going to see an appreciable performance gain moving from a P3 to a Celeron, since the newer Cellys are P3s with half the cache disabled. I'd say stick with what you've got for now.
 
would that be the only problem from chaninf from ap3 733 to a new celeron..the bios on the mobo?...at the time i got my comp, i think there were 800mhz's plus running on my same mobo, which is some intel brand i think?! so, if my mobo can indeed siupport a faster speed, could dell disable that?..and if they did is there any way around it?
 
that's just it..the new cels are basically p3's!..and they have cels in 133 bus now right?..the new one si thought were..blah..my p3 733 on a 133 bus sucks arse..i would want faster duron and new mobo, but my case and power probably wouldn't handle it
 
Listen, man, I advise you not to switch CPUs...you're planning on moving from 133 to 100 bus and from 256K cache to 128K? Think about it! You may even slow your system down!
 
Monkeyman, in all honesty I believe you would have no problem sticking a higher clocked CPU in there; I've worked with Dells and they have been good about upgrades.

However, you still haven't acknowledged the main issue. You will see a performance decrease in some applications if you "downgrade" to a Celeron. You will see no performance gains if you "downgrade" to a Celeron.

So why are you doing it?

The new Celerons are not P3s at all. They run on a 100MHz bus, and have 128k L2 cache. A Celeron 900 is really just an old Celeron 600 that Intel overclocked for you.
 
No dude, the new Cels are NOT basically P3s.
They just finally stepped up to 100Mhz FSB, up to 766 they were running 66Mhz FSB still.

The also have 1/2 the cache, and it's higher latency.

They have the same functional units true, but the L2 cache and memory access is crippled. I would be very suprised if a Cel 900 could beat a P3 733.
 
It can't beat a pIII 733...if you want to upgrade, get a faster P3 or bite the bullet and move to an Athlon or P4 platform (preferably Athlon).
 
then is it possible to move to a new duron and and new mobo setup from a dell system? considering the power supply and such..the case should be no problem as i see this case everywhere, from comp usa to the old micron case.
 
Main problem is that most Dell machines have a proprietary power/reset switch adapter custom made to fit the motherboards they use; I'm sure you could bastardize it somehow, though...
 
would this be the only problem u see?..i could tear my case about..i usually run it w/ the front cover and side cover off anyways..only porb w/ front off is the power swtich being hidden...i wounl't mind having to stick a p[encil or anything to power up=)
 
Then check and see if your power supply can handle an Athlon/Duron...if it can, and you don't mind hammering your case, move on to a new solution! I'm planning to move to Athlon from PIII in a month or two (I'm gonna see how nForce looks).
 
I doubt that it would work anyway. I tried a 370 Celeron in a board which had previously had a 370 1GHz P3, wouldntw ork, the BIOS' prevent these sort of 'upgrades' I think.
 
Duron?

How can you expect to upgrade going from a P3 to a "value line" cpu.

You would have to get a Duron and overclock to 1ghz @ 133 fsb to get ANY kind of improvement (and that would be minimal IMO).

If you dont have the money to get an Athlon or a P4, just stay where you are.

Higher Megahertz does not always equal faster!
 
hmm..no much would my p3 733 be worth of egay?!!?...i think i might try my duron and new mobo idea
i'd also have to egay my rdram, and mobo..anyone have any ideas how much i might get?..and how much a new duron/mobo combo might be?
thx alot!!..oh yeah, my aim is ello13 if anyone wants to talk about this w/ me?..=)
 
You can get a budget Athlon/mobo combo on Pricewatch.com right now at over 1GHz for under $150 (not including shipping)
 
Most of the older slot 1 motherboards have multiplier that maxes out at 8.5, while the celeron 900 uses a multiplier of 9x. Please check the specs of your mainboard before considering just a processor upgrade. If your board can't handle a 9x multiplier, you might be beter off with a Celeron 800 or 850, which use multipliers of 8x and 8.5x respectively.

Also, I agree with most of the previous posts stating that you won't see any real performance gains going from a PIII 733 to a Celeron 900. However, if you might want to consider overclocking a Celeron, as I have. Most of the newer Celerons (800,850, and 900) with the latest steping have consistently been able to overclock beyond 1,000 Mhz. A few have even reached 1,200+ Mhz. For comparison purposes, an overclocked at 1,000 Mhz will perform fairly close to an 866-900 PIII.

As far as an upgrade of the motherboard and CPU goes, you might have to upgrade the power supply as well. AMD processor use a lot of power. I've successfuly been able use a standard 250W power supply with AMD processors up to 850Mhz. Any speed beyond that, or if you have a lot of other devices in your system (multiple hard drives, etc) you'll probably need to upgrade to 300W or 350W.

Hope this helps.
 
hello, you cant change the fsb on a dell..trust me i tried everything before i bougt my abit vp6.

dell 133, celly 100...and have only 128k cahce.

booty
 
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